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Pelos fabricantes convidados a apresentar ofertas iniciais, pode-se deduzir os candidatos:
SH
Rafale
Typhoon
Gripen C ou NG
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Four Airframe Manufacturers Invited to Submit Their Offers
(Source: Swiss Dept. of Defense, Civil Protection and Sport; issued Jan. 17, 2008)
(Issued in German; unofficial translation by defense-aerospace.com)
Four manufacturers have been invited to tender for the replacement of the Swiss Air Force’s F-5E Tiger II fighters. (Swiss MoD photo)The DDPS on January 7, 2008 invited four airframe manufacturers -- Boeing, Dassault, EADS and Gripen International -- to present their initial offers by the middle of this year for a partial replacement of the F-5E Tiger fighters. The in-flight evaluations will probably take place during the second half of this year.
Parliament approved during the winter session of 2007 funding of 8 million Swiss francs for the evaluation of a fighter intended to replace Tiger (partial replacement of Tiger, TTE). The F-5 "Tiger" fighters now in service will reach the end of their operational life-times in the coming years. These fighters, designed in the 1960s and 1970s, are based on obsolete technologies and no longer meet the requirements of the aerial policing mission.
The capacity to supervise the airspace, to control it and to defend it is of paramount importance for the assertion of the sovereignty of a State, particularly of a neutral State, which must guarantee it by its own means.
Without the replacement of the F-5 Tiger, the capacity to maintain and safeguard sovereignty of the airspace, to ensure the service of air police force and air defense would be massively reduced. With only 33 F/A-18, a permanent presence (24 hours a day) of 4 aircraft in flight could be assured only during approximately two weeks.
On January 7, 2008, four companies (Boeing, Dassault, EADS, Gripen International) were invited to submit their first offers by the middle of 2008. The in-flight evaluations will take place in Switzerland, probably during the second half of 2008. According to the results of these evaluations, and taking into account various other factors, the DDPS will propose to the federal Council the acquisition of one type of aircraft and a budget envelope. It is envisaged to ask Parliament to authorize acquisition of the new fighters to partially replace the Tigers as part of Armaments Program 2010.
The costs of acquiring the Tiger replacement aircraft as well as the PC-21 training aircraft required to train their pilots, are estimated at approximately 2.2 billion francs, which can be funded through the ordinary budget of the DDPS for 2010.
The evaluation of the aircraft will determine, within this financial ceiling, which is the best system overall, and which operational capabilities, and for how long, can be attained with such an investment.
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SH
Rafale
Typhoon
Gripen C ou NG
--------------------------------------------------------
Four Airframe Manufacturers Invited to Submit Their Offers
(Source: Swiss Dept. of Defense, Civil Protection and Sport; issued Jan. 17, 2008)
(Issued in German; unofficial translation by defense-aerospace.com)
Four manufacturers have been invited to tender for the replacement of the Swiss Air Force’s F-5E Tiger II fighters. (Swiss MoD photo)The DDPS on January 7, 2008 invited four airframe manufacturers -- Boeing, Dassault, EADS and Gripen International -- to present their initial offers by the middle of this year for a partial replacement of the F-5E Tiger fighters. The in-flight evaluations will probably take place during the second half of this year.
Parliament approved during the winter session of 2007 funding of 8 million Swiss francs for the evaluation of a fighter intended to replace Tiger (partial replacement of Tiger, TTE). The F-5 "Tiger" fighters now in service will reach the end of their operational life-times in the coming years. These fighters, designed in the 1960s and 1970s, are based on obsolete technologies and no longer meet the requirements of the aerial policing mission.
The capacity to supervise the airspace, to control it and to defend it is of paramount importance for the assertion of the sovereignty of a State, particularly of a neutral State, which must guarantee it by its own means.
Without the replacement of the F-5 Tiger, the capacity to maintain and safeguard sovereignty of the airspace, to ensure the service of air police force and air defense would be massively reduced. With only 33 F/A-18, a permanent presence (24 hours a day) of 4 aircraft in flight could be assured only during approximately two weeks.
On January 7, 2008, four companies (Boeing, Dassault, EADS, Gripen International) were invited to submit their first offers by the middle of 2008. The in-flight evaluations will take place in Switzerland, probably during the second half of 2008. According to the results of these evaluations, and taking into account various other factors, the DDPS will propose to the federal Council the acquisition of one type of aircraft and a budget envelope. It is envisaged to ask Parliament to authorize acquisition of the new fighters to partially replace the Tigers as part of Armaments Program 2010.
The costs of acquiring the Tiger replacement aircraft as well as the PC-21 training aircraft required to train their pilots, are estimated at approximately 2.2 billion francs, which can be funded through the ordinary budget of the DDPS for 2010.
The evaluation of the aircraft will determine, within this financial ceiling, which is the best system overall, and which operational capabilities, and for how long, can be attained with such an investment.
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O mais lógico seria o SH, pela comunalidade logística e pela maior facilidade de adaptação dos pilotos, afinal, o SH não deve voar tão diferente assim do Hornet antigo e, em qualquer dos casos, terão de se adaptar aos cockpits digitais mesmo...
Mas, pelo TAMANHO da Suíça, o mais correto seria mesmo o Gripen...
Mas, pelo TAMANHO da Suíça, o mais correto seria mesmo o Gripen...
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Degan escreveu:100% de acuerdo Tulicinho....
Mantener 2 tipos de avión, 2 logísticas de soporte, etc...no se justifica en Suiza.
Embora isso não seja novidade para eles, Degancito, pois F-5 + Mirage III + F/A-18 deve dar uma complicação dos diabos, só falei o que achei mais lógico, apenas a minha idéia de lógica não deve ser muito do agrado dos Suíços...heheheheheheh
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Túlio escreveu:Degan escreveu:100% de acuerdo Tulicinho....
Mantener 2 tipos de avión, 2 logísticas de soporte, etc...no se justifica en Suiza.
Embora isso não seja novidade para eles, Degancito, pois F-5 + Mirage III + F/A-18 deve dar uma complicação dos diabos, só falei o que achei mais lógico, apenas a minha idéia de lógica não deve ser muito do agrado dos Suíços...heheheheheheh
Tulicinho...entiendo que los Mirage V de Suiza eran versiones de reconocimiento, y de los F-5...hace cuanto que no vuelan...???
Chile, fértil provincia y señalada, de la región antártica famosa, que no ha sido por rey jamás regida, ni sus tierras y dominios sometida!!!.
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Degan escreveu:
Tulicinho...entiendo que los Mirage V de Suiza eran versiones de reconocimiento
Deixaram de ser caças por isso? Não podiam portar mísseis?
Degan escreveu:
, y de los F-5...hace cuanto que no vuelan...???
Mas tudo o que eu quis dizer, Degancito, é que já estiveram OS TRÊS em serviço ao mesmo tempo, só isso, POWS!!!
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Túlio escreveu:Degan escreveu:
Tulicinho...entiendo que los Mirage V de Suiza eran versiones de reconocimiento
Deixaram de ser caças por isso? Não podiam portar mísseis?Degan escreveu:
, y de los F-5...hace cuanto que no vuelan...???
Mas tudo o que eu quis dizer, Degancito, é que já estiveram OS TRÊS em serviço ao mesmo tempo, só isso, POWS!!!
Numa certa epoca (70s e inicio dos 80s) os suicos possuiam no seu inventario:
-Mirage IIIS e R
-F-5E
-Hunter
-Venon (Vampire)
Os F-5 gradativamente substituiam os Venon e os Hornet substituiram os Hunter.
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morcego escreveu:Acho que da GRIPEN, muito mais barato de operar.
De onde tiras essas 'pérolas', Mestre Bat?
OPERAR...
Os Suíços dispõem de uma completa infraestrutura de apoio à operação do F18, precisariam apenas de algumas adaptações para o SH, já para o Gripen partiriam do ZERO, isso te parece BARATO???
(((Agora, francamente, parece canastrice EU defendendo caça ianque, mas é para OS OUTROS, não para NÓS... )))
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