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FinkenHeinle escreveu:

talharim escreveu:Se cair o embrago militar europeu eu acho que a China compra um Tranche só para ela ............no mínimo uns 200 Typhos.......

Olá Grande Talharim!!!


Primeiro, acho que difícilmente cai o embargo, e segundo, acho que a China não vai deixar de fabricar os Flanker (o que dá alguma independência tecnológica, em um grau variável) e ainda criar um problema logístico ainda maior do que já tem!!!

U.K. to Supply Eurofighter Jets to Saudi Arabia (Update2)

Dec. 21 (Bloomberg) -- The U.K. agreed to supply Saudi Arabia with Eurofighter GmbH combat planes, the first order for the aircraft outside Europe, as part of an accord to modernize the kingdom's armed forces. Shares of BAE Systems Plc, a Eurofighter partner, rose to a 3 1/2-year high.

Britain will replace aging Tornado jets with an unspecified number of Eurofighters and BAE, Europe's biggest weapons maker, will transfer technology and invest in Saudi companies and train Saudi nationals, the U.K. Ministry of Defence said. Agreement terms are confidential, the ministry said.

Today's accord ``offers opportunities for forging closer links between our armed forces and industries,'' U.K. Defence Secretary John Reid, who is visiting Saudi Arabia, said in an e- mailed statement from the ministry today.

BAE has provided Tornado planes, parts and air-base management to Saudi Arabia under the Al Yamamah program, the company's biggest contract, since 1985. The London-based company owns Eurofighter jointly with European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co. and Finmeccanica SpA.

Shares of BAE in London rose 22.25 pence, or 6.4 percent, to 370 pence, the highest since June 8, 2002. The stock is up 61 percent, valuing the company at 11.9 billion pounds ($14 billion).

Germany, the U.K., Italy and Spain are buying 620 Eurofighter planes in three batches. Munich-based Eurofighter GmbH also has an order for 18 jets from Austria, the venture's sole export customer until now.

EADS, which is also the 80 percent owner of planemaker Airbus SAS, has its main factories in France, Germany and Spain. Finmeccanica is Italy's biggest defense company.

The U.K. has supplied about 106 Tornado fighter jets and 33 Hawk trainers to Saudi Arabia since the mid-1980s. BAE employs 4,600 workers in the country, more than half of whom are Saudi nationals.

By Souhail Karam

RIYADH (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia and Britain signed on Wednesday an understanding for the sale of Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft in a deal which analysts said could be worth more than 6 billion pounds ($10.6 billion).

The British embassy in Riyadh announced the signing of the outline agreement to replace British-made Tornados and other jets with the Typhoons but gave no details of the size of the deal or likely delivery dates.

"Under the terms of the signed document Typhoon aircraft will replace Tornado Air Defence Variant aircraft and others currently in service by (RSAF) Royal Saudi Armed Forces," the British embassy in Riyadh said in a statement.

"The specific details of these arrangements are governed by the existing confidentiality agreement," the embassy said.

Sources close to the negotiations have said a deal is likely to involve Riyadh buying at least 48 Eurofighter Typhoon jets, with an option to raise that to 72.

The announcement followed a meeting on Wednesday between visiting UK defence minister John Reid and Saudi King Abdullah. Reid held talks late on Tuesday with Defence Minister and Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdul-Aziz.

The multinational Eurofighter consortium which makes Typhoon jets includes British defence contractor BAE Systems, European aerospace group EADS and Italy's Finmeccanica.

Shares in BAE, which is prime contractor for Britain's defence deals with Saudi Arabia, closed up 6.4 percent at around 370 pence.

DEAL WORTH $10 BILLION?

Francis Tusa, editor of London-based newsletter Defence Analysis, said Typhoon jets had a unit cost price of about 65 million pounds. Including weapons, support, training and other extras, a deal for 48 jets could total 6 billion pounds ($10.6 billion).
Including options, the deal could reach 10 billion pounds, he added.

Analysts at investment bank Morgan Stanley said the deal could be worth 7 billion to 8 billion pounds to BAE.

Officials at BAE in Riyadh and London declined to comment on the size of the deal but the British embassy's statement suggested it would be wide-ranging.

"(The accord) is intended to establish a greater partnership in modernising the Saudi Arabian Armed Forces (RSAF) and developing close service-to-service contact especially through joint training and exercises," the embassy said.

BAE will invest in local training for thousands of Saudi nationals, it added.

Saudi Arabia has a long history of buying arms from Britain dating back to the 1960s and usually paying in oil.

In 1985 the two countries signed the first of two Al Yamamah (The Dove) arms-for-oil deals.

The second was signed in 1988 and ranked as the biggest UK export order in history, with requirements for Tornado fighter jets, Hawk trainer jets and helicopters and support services that was valued at over 20 billion pounds.

The prime contractor for Al Yamamah was also BAE Systems.

Saudi sources said the kingdom was also considering buying Rafale jets from France's Dassault Aviation.

(Additional reporting by Mark Potter in London)

A-29 escreveu:Tudo bem que tem armamento e treinamento incluído, mas pagar mais de U$ 200 mi por cada Typhoon parece um pouco caro. Alías, bastante caro.

Por sinal, será que a FAB não se interessa em comprar esses tornados de segunda mão? Do jieot que os caras são endinheirados é capaz de venderem baratinho, hehehe

A-29 escreveu:Tudo bem que tem armamento e treinamento incluído, mas pagar mais de U$ 200 mi por cada Typhoon parece um pouco caro. Alías, bastante caro.

Por sinal, será que a FAB não se interessa em comprar esses tornados de segunda mão? Do jieot que os caras são endinheirados é capaz de venderem baratinho, hehehe