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Ukraine Rebuilding Navy with US Help
Posted by Eric Haun November 2, 2016
Ukraine is refitting and expanding its naval fleet, including repairing its flagship, the frigate "Hetman Sahaydachnyy", to counter a Russian military build-up in the annexed territory of Crimea, the commander of the Ukrainian navy says.
The upgrade will be helped by $30 million worth of U.S. aid, part of a $500 million package from Washington for the Ukrainian military which Kiev expects to receive next year. (Graphic: Size of Russian navy tmsnrt.rs/2fEjLO1)
"Step by step we will rebuild our fleet from the beginning," Vice Admiral Ihor Voronchenko told Reuters in an interview.
"Our capacities in terms of quality will be better that the ones which remained in Crimea."
Ukraine lost two-thirds of its fleet, which had been mostly based in Sevastopol, when Russia seized Crimea from Kiev in 2014. Since then it has fought Russian-backed separatists in the Donbass region in a war that has killed nearly 10,000 people.
Before the Russian annexation, Moscow leased facilities from the Ukrainian state to house its Black Sea Fleet, which has been based in Crimea for more than two centuries. Those facilities, mainly around Sevastopol, are now being expanded.
Russia has started a program to militarize Crimea, including resurrecting Soviet-built facilities, building new bases and stationing soldiers there, according to a Reuters Special Report.
When Russia seized Crimea, Ukraine stopped the "Hetman Sahaydachnyy", the landing ship "Yuriy Olifirenko", the missile boat "Pryluky" and some gunboats from falling into Russian hands.
"We just started repairing works at our flagship," Voronchenko said.
Two new gunboats are almost ready for service "and I am sure we will receive four more boats in July next year," he said.
The navy also plans to have a new Corvette warship and a new missile boat by 2020.
Other measures by Ukraine to beef up its defense include raising the level of training for navy personnel and creating new units of coastal defense troops. Part of the training is being carried out in NATO member countries Italy, France and Britain.
Voronchenko said Russia was planning to turn Crimea into a "military base", installing three submarine boats, new frigates and more airborne facilities. He also said that Russian ships were experiencing technical problems.
"We have information, we conduct surveillance. I cannot tell you everything," he said. "But we can counter-attack all their hostile intentions. They also have problems in resources."
Sergei Zgurets, Director for the Defense Express consultancy, said Ukraine's naval capacity was low and its airforce and artillery were still therefore the main defense against an attack from the sea.
"So we will fight against the enemy's navy forces using land and air forces," Zgurets said.
Voronchenko will meet the navy chief of Romania, a European Union and NATO member, on Nov 23 to discuss possible joint actions in the Black Sea in case of Russian aggression.
Relations between Ukraine and Russia deteriorated after Kremlin-backed President Viktor Yanukovich was ousted by street protests in February 2014, which lit the fuse for the annexation of Crimea and the outbreak of separatist fighting elsewhere.
(By Margaryta Chornokondratenko; Writing by Matthias Williams; Editing by Angus MacSwan)
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Posted by Eric Haun November 2, 2016
Ukraine is refitting and expanding its naval fleet, including repairing its flagship, the frigate "Hetman Sahaydachnyy", to counter a Russian military build-up in the annexed territory of Crimea, the commander of the Ukrainian navy says.
The upgrade will be helped by $30 million worth of U.S. aid, part of a $500 million package from Washington for the Ukrainian military which Kiev expects to receive next year. (Graphic: Size of Russian navy tmsnrt.rs/2fEjLO1)
"Step by step we will rebuild our fleet from the beginning," Vice Admiral Ihor Voronchenko told Reuters in an interview.
"Our capacities in terms of quality will be better that the ones which remained in Crimea."
Ukraine lost two-thirds of its fleet, which had been mostly based in Sevastopol, when Russia seized Crimea from Kiev in 2014. Since then it has fought Russian-backed separatists in the Donbass region in a war that has killed nearly 10,000 people.
Before the Russian annexation, Moscow leased facilities from the Ukrainian state to house its Black Sea Fleet, which has been based in Crimea for more than two centuries. Those facilities, mainly around Sevastopol, are now being expanded.
Russia has started a program to militarize Crimea, including resurrecting Soviet-built facilities, building new bases and stationing soldiers there, according to a Reuters Special Report.
When Russia seized Crimea, Ukraine stopped the "Hetman Sahaydachnyy", the landing ship "Yuriy Olifirenko", the missile boat "Pryluky" and some gunboats from falling into Russian hands.
"We just started repairing works at our flagship," Voronchenko said.
Two new gunboats are almost ready for service "and I am sure we will receive four more boats in July next year," he said.
The navy also plans to have a new Corvette warship and a new missile boat by 2020.
Other measures by Ukraine to beef up its defense include raising the level of training for navy personnel and creating new units of coastal defense troops. Part of the training is being carried out in NATO member countries Italy, France and Britain.
Voronchenko said Russia was planning to turn Crimea into a "military base", installing three submarine boats, new frigates and more airborne facilities. He also said that Russian ships were experiencing technical problems.
"We have information, we conduct surveillance. I cannot tell you everything," he said. "But we can counter-attack all their hostile intentions. They also have problems in resources."
Sergei Zgurets, Director for the Defense Express consultancy, said Ukraine's naval capacity was low and its airforce and artillery were still therefore the main defense against an attack from the sea.
"So we will fight against the enemy's navy forces using land and air forces," Zgurets said.
Voronchenko will meet the navy chief of Romania, a European Union and NATO member, on Nov 23 to discuss possible joint actions in the Black Sea in case of Russian aggression.
Relations between Ukraine and Russia deteriorated after Kremlin-backed President Viktor Yanukovich was ousted by street protests in February 2014, which lit the fuse for the annexation of Crimea and the outbreak of separatist fighting elsewhere.
(By Margaryta Chornokondratenko; Writing by Matthias Williams; Editing by Angus MacSwan)
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It seems that Ukraine has begun dismantling the unfinished 4th Slava class cruiser "Ukrayina": smoke, no radars on the masts etc.
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Que pena.
Durante o governo Yanukovych, chegou-se a cogitar uma possível adoção desse navio pela Marinha Ucraniana.
Agora, quem sabe, consigam algumas ex-OHP vindas diretamente do ferro velho.
E o Poroshenko ainda agradecerá os EUA e toda a OTAN pela graça alcançada.
"Eu detestaria estar no lugar de quem me venceu."
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Bargain Basement Gunboats: Ukraine Hopes to Rebuild Navy Using Old NATO Ships
Lacking the financial resources to beef up its Black Sea presence with new, domestically produced ships, the Ukrainian Navy is considering buying decommissioned NATO warships on the cheap instead. The only problem, experts say, is that even if NATO gave Ukraine its old ships for free, it would still cost more money than Kiev has to modernize them.
Speaking to Ukraine's Channel 5 earlier this week, Vice Admiral Ihor Voronchenko, commander of the Ukrainian Navy, confirmed that Ukraine was negotiating the purchase of decommissioned NATO vessels to reinforce its Black Sea fleet. A group of Ukrainian officials has recently returned from such negotiations, he said.
"Partner countries – those that currently provide us with assistance, are considering this issue to be promising," the vice admiral said. Kiev, he added, is looking to get decommissioned ships whose age is satisfactory to the Navy, and "according to certain payment methods."
Voronchenko explained that Ukraine needed the ships because it is "a transit state, and we are obliged…to ensure the peaceful navigation of all vessels in the Black Sea. We cannot fulfill the full spectrum of this work with only one minesweeper, the Henichesk, which we obtained."
Accordingly, he said, Kiev is now looking to get another mine-sweeper, and possibly other vessels, from NATO member countries.
Commenting on Voronchenko's remarks, Russian observers suggested that it was a sign of the sorry state of Ukraine's Navy, as well as the country's economic and industrial potential in general. After all, experts noted, less than a quarter century ago, before the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine was home to some of the largest and most advanced shipyards in the world, building everything from small frigates to aircraft carriers. Since 1991, independent Ukraine has built only a handful of small corvettes, anti-submarine vessels and patrol ships.
Furthermore, after the Soviet collapse, much of Ukraine's shipbuilding industry, concentrated in massive shipyards in places like the port city of Mykolaiv in southern Ukraine, remained dependent on cooperation with their Russian counterparts. However, since the downturn in Russian-Ukrainian relations in 2014, cooperation has declined significantly, with Russian shipbuilders turning to domestic producers for things like diesel engines and other advanced components.
Other experts suggested that even if Ukraine received the old NATO vessels for free, the money necessary to reequip the ships, retrain crews, and find the necessary spare parts would cost the Navy more than the ships are worth.
Speaking to the Russian news portal Economics Today, Boris Rozhin, editor-in-chief of the information-analytical center Kassad, suggested that Ukraine is looking for the new ships "purely for the sake of showing the flag and a [hypothetical] 'increase in capabilities' of the Navy."
"But buying a decommissioned ship is only half the battle," Rozhin explained. "One also needs to spend money on repairs, fine-tuning and upgrades, on retraining the crew to different standards, on reequipping the ship, and on incorporating it into a single fleet supply system."
‘Hetman Sahaydachniy’, Ukraine's only frigate, seen here passing through Bosporus Strait near Istanbul, Turkey, file photo.
https://sputniknews.com/military/201703 ... yup-plans/
Lacking the financial resources to beef up its Black Sea presence with new, domestically produced ships, the Ukrainian Navy is considering buying decommissioned NATO warships on the cheap instead. The only problem, experts say, is that even if NATO gave Ukraine its old ships for free, it would still cost more money than Kiev has to modernize them.
Speaking to Ukraine's Channel 5 earlier this week, Vice Admiral Ihor Voronchenko, commander of the Ukrainian Navy, confirmed that Ukraine was negotiating the purchase of decommissioned NATO vessels to reinforce its Black Sea fleet. A group of Ukrainian officials has recently returned from such negotiations, he said.
"Partner countries – those that currently provide us with assistance, are considering this issue to be promising," the vice admiral said. Kiev, he added, is looking to get decommissioned ships whose age is satisfactory to the Navy, and "according to certain payment methods."
Voronchenko explained that Ukraine needed the ships because it is "a transit state, and we are obliged…to ensure the peaceful navigation of all vessels in the Black Sea. We cannot fulfill the full spectrum of this work with only one minesweeper, the Henichesk, which we obtained."
Accordingly, he said, Kiev is now looking to get another mine-sweeper, and possibly other vessels, from NATO member countries.
Commenting on Voronchenko's remarks, Russian observers suggested that it was a sign of the sorry state of Ukraine's Navy, as well as the country's economic and industrial potential in general. After all, experts noted, less than a quarter century ago, before the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine was home to some of the largest and most advanced shipyards in the world, building everything from small frigates to aircraft carriers. Since 1991, independent Ukraine has built only a handful of small corvettes, anti-submarine vessels and patrol ships.
Furthermore, after the Soviet collapse, much of Ukraine's shipbuilding industry, concentrated in massive shipyards in places like the port city of Mykolaiv in southern Ukraine, remained dependent on cooperation with their Russian counterparts. However, since the downturn in Russian-Ukrainian relations in 2014, cooperation has declined significantly, with Russian shipbuilders turning to domestic producers for things like diesel engines and other advanced components.
Other experts suggested that even if Ukraine received the old NATO vessels for free, the money necessary to reequip the ships, retrain crews, and find the necessary spare parts would cost the Navy more than the ships are worth.
Speaking to the Russian news portal Economics Today, Boris Rozhin, editor-in-chief of the information-analytical center Kassad, suggested that Ukraine is looking for the new ships "purely for the sake of showing the flag and a [hypothetical] 'increase in capabilities' of the Navy."
"But buying a decommissioned ship is only half the battle," Rozhin explained. "One also needs to spend money on repairs, fine-tuning and upgrades, on retraining the crew to different standards, on reequipping the ship, and on incorporating it into a single fleet supply system."
‘Hetman Sahaydachniy’, Ukraine's only frigate, seen here passing through Bosporus Strait near Istanbul, Turkey, file photo.
https://sputniknews.com/military/201703 ... yup-plans/
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Ukraine establishing Sea of Azov base as first navy ships enter through Kerch Strait
Ukraine has sent two navy ships through the Kerch Strait as part of its intent to establish a new base in the Sea of Azov, where both Ukraine and Russia are increasing their military presence.
Search and rescue vessel ‘Donbass’ (A500) and the sea tug ‘Korets’ (A830) got underway from Odessa on September 20 and transited the Kerch Strait on September 23, escorted by a number of Russian Navy units.
Ukrainian Navy Gutza-M artillery boats Kremenchuk (P177) and Lubny (P178) got underway from the port of Berdyansk to meet the two vessels as they entered the Sea of Azov.
Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko congratulated the crews of the two ships on a successful transit on his Facebook page, adding that they would become part of a newly-created base in the Sea of Azov.
The Sea of Azov is shared by Ukraine and Russia under a treaty signed in 2003 which allows civil and military ships of both countries to freely transit. Russian coast guard vessels have reportedly increased inspections of vessels transiting to Ukrainian ports in the Azov Sea.
https://navaltoday.com/2018/09/24/ukrai ... ch-strait/
Ukraine has sent two navy ships through the Kerch Strait as part of its intent to establish a new base in the Sea of Azov, where both Ukraine and Russia are increasing their military presence.
Search and rescue vessel ‘Donbass’ (A500) and the sea tug ‘Korets’ (A830) got underway from Odessa on September 20 and transited the Kerch Strait on September 23, escorted by a number of Russian Navy units.
Ukrainian Navy Gutza-M artillery boats Kremenchuk (P177) and Lubny (P178) got underway from the port of Berdyansk to meet the two vessels as they entered the Sea of Azov.
Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko congratulated the crews of the two ships on a successful transit on his Facebook page, adding that they would become part of a newly-created base in the Sea of Azov.
The Sea of Azov is shared by Ukraine and Russia under a treaty signed in 2003 which allows civil and military ships of both countries to freely transit. Russian coast guard vessels have reportedly increased inspections of vessels transiting to Ukrainian ports in the Azov Sea.
https://navaltoday.com/2018/09/24/ukrai ... ch-strait/
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Estão removendo os armamentos soviéticos.Bolovo escreveu: ↑Ter Nov 22, 2016 6:39 pmQue pena.
Durante o governo Yanukovych, chegou-se a cogitar uma possível adoção desse navio pela Marinha Ucraniana.
Agora, quem sabe, consigam algumas ex-OHP vindas diretamente do ferro velho.
E o Poroshenko ainda agradecerá os EUA e toda a OTAN pela graça alcançada.
PROIBIDOS de serem exportados. A ideia era vender o navio para a Rússia. Como viraram inimigos, vão vender o Cruzador para o Brasil.
Porém, sem os armamentos soviéticos que são proibidos de serem exportados, como os monstruosos P-500 Bazalt.
O Brasil, caso compre as 4 Corvetas com os Ucranianos, receberá o Cruzador Slava finalizado, revitalizado, porém DESARMADO como offset (DE GRAÇA).
Depois a MB decide quais os sensores e armamentos OCIDENTAIS que pretende instalar no Cruzador.
Provavelmente sensores franceses Thales, os mesmos utilizados nas corvetas.
Su-35BM - 4ª++ Geração.
Simplesmente um GRANDE caça.
Simplesmente um GRANDE caça.
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Esquece, esse trem não vem pra cá não.
Não temais ímpias falanges,
Que apresentam face hostil,
Vossos peitos, vossos braços,
São muralhas do Brasil!
Que apresentam face hostil,
Vossos peitos, vossos braços,
São muralhas do Brasil!
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Ukraine launches first Centaur-class assault boat
Ukrainian shipbuilder and arms manufacturer Kuznya na Rybalskomu has launched the country’s first Centaur-class assault boat.
The ceremony took place on September 14 in Kiev and was attended by high-ranking officials, including the head of the Ukrainian Navy forces, Ihor Voronchenko.
The Centaur-class craft are also known as Project 58181 vessels and are the first locally-designed and locally-built navy vessels.
According to the Ukrainian Military Portal, the assault boat displaces 47 tons and measures 24 meters in length. It is crewed by five sailors and can transport up to 32 troops. Propelled by waterjets, the boats have a reported top speed of 50 knots and can stay at sea for a maximum of five days.
The class is armed with two remote weapon stations with 12.7 mm high-caliber machine guns and a 40-mm rocket launcher. The boats also feature two 80-mm rocket-launch systems.
Centaur-class assault boats will complement the Ukrainian Navy fleet of Gurza and Gurza-M artillery boats.
https://navaltoday.com/2018/09/17/ukrai ... ault-boat/
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Re: Marinha da Ucrânia
Quem sabe teremos uma Marinha com um cruzador Slava sem armas e meia duzia de OHP sem armas.
Dá pra vender a imagem que somos um pais pacifico pq nem as forças armadas vao ter armas ......
Dá pra vender a imagem que somos um pais pacifico pq nem as forças armadas vao ter armas ......
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No caso da Ucrania, que tem um risco iminente de conflito, a urgencia de armar faz sentido. E cavalo dado nao se olha os dentes.
Totalmente diferente da situaçao brasileira
Totalmente diferente da situaçao brasileira
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Ukrainian Centaur-class assault boats arrive in Odessa for state trials
The first two Ukrainian Navy Centaur-class assault craft arrived in Odessa on November 19 to start their state trials.
The assault boats transited from Kiev, where they were built by shipbuilder Kuznya on Rybalsky, to Odessa under their own power.
They were launched in September this year as the first locally-designed and locally-built navy vessels under Project 58181.
Displacing 47 tons and measuring 24 meters in length, they are crewed by five sailors and can transport up to 32 troops. Propelled by waterjets, the boats have a reported top speed of 50 knots and can stay at sea for a maximum of five days.
The class is armed with two remote weapon stations with 12.7 mm high-caliber machine guns and a 40-mm rocket launcher. The boats also feature two 80-mm rocket-launch systems.
Centaur-class assault boats will complement the Ukrainian Navy fleet of Gurza and Gurza-M artillery boats.
https://navaltoday.com/2018/11/21/ukrai ... te-trials/
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Russia returns seized naval vessels to Ukraine
Illustration; Russian Navy file photo
Russia has begun the process of returning three seized Ukrainian Navy boats, after a year-long detention.
The gunboats Berdiansk (P175) and Nikopol (P176), and tug boat Yany Kapu were towed out of the Sea of Azov through the Kerch Strait, en route to mainland Ukraine.
The three vessels, with 23 sailors aboard, were first fired upon by Russian special forces and subsequently seized as they were trying to enter the Sea of Azov, a body of water shared by Ukraine and Russia.
Six Ukrainian sailors were reported to have been injured in the standoff.
The escalation of conflict between Ukraine and Russia over the Sea of Azov followed several months of tensions after Ukraine accused Russia of stopping and delaying passage of commercial vessels transiting to Ukrainian ports in the Azov Sea.
Another footage of towing captured #Ukrainian warships in the Kerch Strait. pic.twitter.com/s01GLzrHZN
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Se o exército e a força aérea da Ucrânia não estão dando conta do recado no leste do país, imagina a marinha. Não é seguro sequer sair dos portos com o quase nada que tem, e que ainda funciona, claro.
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