Super Tucano News

[FCarvalho]

Alguém sabe dizer se os ST da FAB estão habilitados a levar os pods israelenses de reconhecimento e armas guiadas, o eles levam apenas o pé de boi mesmo?

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[Poti]

Alguém sabe dizer se os ST da FAB estão habilitados a levar os pods israelenses de reconhecimento e armas guiadas, o eles levam apenas o pé de boi mesmo?

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Apenas o pé de boi.

[FCarvalho]

Valeu, obrigado.
Alguma perspectiva de melhoria?

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[Cassio]

Não foi requisito FAB levar estes "penduricalhos"... Então agora para levar tem que modificar as aeronaves, e isso custa $$$

[FCarvalho]

Bem, mais dia, menos dia os requisitos terão de ser atualizados. E a grana vai ter que aparecer.
Se não vamos subutilizar o avião.
Dizem que a necessidade faz o homem. Espero que a nossa defesa também.

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[Viktor Reznov]

Bem, mais dia, menos dia os requisitos terão de ser atualizados. E a grana vai ter que aparecer.
Se não vamos subutilizar o avião.
Dizem que a necessidade faz o homem. Espero que a nossa defesa também.

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Pois é, o cerco tá fechando e os ST da FAB são os modelos mais barebones da aeronave, nem lançadores de Flare possuem.

[FCarvalho]

Os ST da FAB são os mais antigos de todos os fabricados até hoje. Um MLU está próximo ou já deve estar em vista.
Os acontecimentos dos últimos anos e os avanços tecnológicos havidos desde o seu lançamento dão o tom da necessidade de sua modernização ou mesmo substituição por aparelhos novos.
E já que parece que a frota do Gripen E da FAB serão contados a dedo, e sem grandes perspectivas de mudança no quadro a curto ou médio prazo, penso que investir não apenas na modernização como o aumento da frota se ST na FAB seja o caminho mais adequado e possível a fim de termos uma defesa aérea de acordo com a pauperridade da defesa nacional e sua desimportancia.
Nove esquadrões de Macapá a Santa Maria seriam mais que suficientes.

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[Cassio]

A questão aqui é que uma aeronave é desenvolvida de acordo com um conjunto de requisitos, que são gerados de acordo com um cenário operacional.
A FAB definiu seu cenário oracional e traçou os seus requisitos.
Aí vem a pergunta... O cenário operacional da FAB mudou? Se não mudou, não haveria necessidade de se fazer um grande MLU e nem de instalar novos sistemas que venham a agregar novas funcionalidades que hoje não são requeridas, e que podem nem vir a ser.
Se novas tecnologias surgiram, que possam melhorar seu desempenho dentro do mesmo cenário operacional, ok... MLU neles.
Mas a primeira coisa a se saber é... Está prevista mudança no cenário operacional?

[FCarvalho]

Até onde entendo, já mudou. E o mundo com ele.
Mas, nós mudamos? Ou aceitamos tais mudanças?

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[arcanjo]

3/13/2019
Air Force to Buy Six Light Attack Aircraft for Continuing Experiments

—JOHN A. TIRPAK AND RACHEL S. COHEN


USAF plans to purchase three Textron AT-6B Wolverines (shown at top) and three Sierra Nevada-Embraer A-29 Super Tucanos (shown at bottom) for continuing experiments toward a possible light attack aircraft program, CSAF Gen. David Goldfein said. Air Force photos.

The Air Force plans to buy six light attack aircraft—three Sierra Nevada-Embraer A-29 Super Tucanos and three Textron AT-6B Wolverines—for continuing experiments toward a potential light attack aircraft program, on which the Air Force would partner with other countries, according to Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. David Goldfein.

The AT-6s would be based at Nellis AFB, Nev., and the A-29s would be based at Hurlburt Field, Fla., Goldfein told Air Force Magazine last week. His comments were embargoed until his Capitol Hill testimony Wednesday. Funds to buy the aircraft would come from $60 million remaining in fiscal 2018 RDT&E accounts, and another $100 million would come from fiscal 2019 procurement accounts.

“More important than the airplanes, we are developing a networking system that will allow us to communicate and share information” with partner countries who might use the aircraft for counterinsurgency or anti-violent extremist work, Goldfein said. The aircraft and networks would be useful “for countries like Honduras or Nigeria” who may not be able to afford sophisticated aircraft like F-16s or F-35s, he said.

The Air Force will also evaluate the application of drones, helicopters, or less expensive light jets to the mission; aircraft such as the new Boeing-Saab T-X, Lockheed Martin T-50, or Textron Scorpion, for example. It will also partner with the Marine Corps in the experiments, which are to begin in 2020.

The six light attack airplanes will be purchased outright “so we can modify them anyway we want,” without the hassle of altering the companies’ property. The light attack experiment will continue at least three more years, and partner countries will participate, Goldfein said.

The Air Force said Wednesday the concept also will include “the ability to improve both intelligence-gathering, sharing, and network interoperability with allies and partners,” the service said in a statement.

The network is meant as an “exportable, affordable, and commercially secure tactical datalink that supports line-of-sight/beyond line-of-sight real-time information exchange between the airborne and ground units,” the Air Force said.

Basing the aircraft at the two locations will “allow a broader range of environments and training opportunities for the Air Force and partner allies,” the service explained.

Nellis is home to the Air Force’s combat experimentation community, and is a largely arid environment, while Hurlburt, in a more tropical location, is the central node in USAF’s special operations enterprise. The service has said its use of a light attack aircraft could be as small as a few dozen aircraft—in which case they would be operated by Air Force Special Operations Command—or a few hundred, which would put them under Air Combat Command.

In a statement to the press, Goldfein said, “My fellow Air Chiefs tell me they need an affordable weapon system that is interoperable with us to help aggressively and effectively confront violent extremism. We greatly appreciate the authorities given to us by Congress to prototype, experiment, learn, and make more informed decisions about the common capabilities needed to defeat this threat.”

But the Air Force’s decision to continue exploring what industry could offer the US and its allies raised eyebrows on Capitol Hill this week. Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.) grilled service leadership on its “schizophrenic” strategy at a Senate Appropriations defense subcommittee hearing Wednesday, suggesting the experiment is progressing out of order.

The Pentagon’s director of operational test and evaluation’s annual report released in January revealed a plan to buy nearly 360 aircraft, Moran said, so why the change of heart?

“I thought that the rapid acquisition process with industry partners worked for our warfighters and for our allies, and that the light-attack was proof that this process could work,” Moran said. “There is a schizophrenia at the Air Force about light attack. The messages are mixed.”

Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson pushed back on the idea that the service isn’t taking the needed steps at this point in the process, saying USAF has made a lot of progress, but just wasn’t ready to procure.

http://www.airforcemag.com/Features/Pag ... ments.aspx

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[J.Ricardo]

Posso estar errado, mas acho que o ST tem mais espaço para abrigar mais esquipamentos internos e por isso leva uma boa vantagem sobre o AT-6.

[arcanjo]

16/03/2019 - 07:50
Embraer: A-29 Super Tucano não está envolvido na JV com a Boeing



Por Guilherme Wiltgen

São Paulo – SP, 15 de março de 2019 – A Embraer esclarece que a joint venture com a Boeing na área da defesa não envolverá o A-29 Super Tucano. Informou a Embraer em um e-mail enviado ao DAN na noite dessa sexta-feira (15).

Durante essa semana, diversos sites e jornais noticiaram que o Super Tucano poderia fazer parte da parceria da empresa com a Boeing na área defesa, informação agora negada oficialmente pela Embraer.

Na área de Defesa, o que se tem até o momento é que os acionistas da empresa concordaram com uma joint venture para promover e desenvolver novos mercados para o cargueiro militar multimissão KC-390.

https://www.defesaaereanaval.com.br/avi ... m-a-boeing

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arcanjo

[Poti]

16/03/2019 - 07:50
Embraer: A-29 Super Tucano não está envolvido na JV com a Boeing



Por Guilherme Wiltgen

São Paulo – SP, 15 de março de 2019 – A Embraer esclarece que a joint venture com a Boeing na área da defesa não envolverá o A-29 Super Tucano. Informou a Embraer em um e-mail enviado ao DAN na noite dessa sexta-feira (15).

Durante essa semana, diversos sites e jornais noticiaram que o Super Tucano poderia fazer parte da parceria da empresa com a Boeing na área defesa, informação agora negada oficialmente pela Embraer.

Na área de Defesa, o que se tem até o momento é que os acionistas da empresa concordaram com uma joint venture para promover e desenvolver novos mercados para o cargueiro militar multimissão KC-390.

https://www.defesaaereanaval.com.br/avi ... m-a-boeing

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arcanjo

A coisa que me deixava mais feliz na JV Embraer-Boeing era ver o lobby da Boeing defendendo o A29 nos EUA...
Caramba, que droga!

[arcanjo]

March 20, 2019
The A-29 Super Tucano Is The International Market Leader For Light Attack Aircraft

Daniel Gouré, Ph.D.

The U.S. Air Force’s program to acquire a light attack aircraft appears to be on hold indefinitely. One issue that contributed to the decision to cancel its planned procurement and to re-open the OA-X experiment with alternative platforms was uncertainty regarding the international demand for a light attack platform. However, the international market appears to have made its choice. The A-29 Super Tucano, built by a team headed by Sierra Nevada Corporation and Embraer, is leading all possible contenders.

In a move that surprised the aerospace industry, defense experts and even some within their own Service, the leadership of the Air Force announced in mid-January that it was indefinitely postponing its competition to acquire a light attack aircraft. Instead of going ahead with a competitive procurement between the two aircraft that had successfully passed the two year experiment, the A-29 Super Tucano and AT-6B, the Air Force announced that it was not ready to make a selection and intended to continue the experiment with the possible inclusion of other platforms. Somewhat muddying its newly-announced strategy, the Air Force declared that it would immediately acquire three each of the A-29 and AT-6B and as many as 24 additional aircraft, types unknown, over the next five years.

One of the issues that caused the Air Force to postpone its planned procurement was uncertainty regarding the international demand for a light attack aircraft. This was no small concern given the Air Force’s repeated assertions that the primary value of a light attack platform would be its role in elevating the capabilities of partner countries while creating a global ISR network centered on a common communications and data sharing system. The Air Force now says that it intends to conduct a global market survey to determine partner preferences for a light attack aircraft.

A study of the global demand for light attack aircraft may be unnecessary. One aircraft already appears on its way to dominating the market space. This is the A-29 Super Tucano. The sturdy, propeller-driven Super Tucano is a perfect fit for the operational requirements, physical environments and budget limitations of U.S. partner countries. The Super Tucano is currently operated as a light attack/ISR platform by more than a dozen countries including Angola, Brazil, Burkina Faso, Chile, Colombia, the Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Ghana, Honduras, Indonesia, Mali, Mauritania, the Philippines, and Senegal.

The A-29 was built precisely for the kind of conflicts and operating environments relevant to most U.S. partners. Based on a competitive procurement, in 2013 the U.S. Air Force awarded a contract for the A-29 to be provided to the Afghan Air Force (AAF). Based on the proven Embraer Super Tucano aircraft, the A-29 is a relatively simple, sturdy, propeller-driven aircraft, able to operate from austere airfields. However, the A-29 is equipped with advanced electro-optical sensors, modern avionics, a laser target designator, a 20mm cannon, two 12.7mm machine guns and the ability to carry a wide variety of munitions including precision-guided ordinance. One of the most effective weapons is BAE’s Advanced Precision Kill Weapons System, a 70mm laser-guided rocket with a three-foot miss distance. The Sierra Nevada/Embraer team also is providing training for Afghan pilots and mechanics, mission planning stations, mission debrief systems, long lead spares, Afghanistan base activation, site surveys and flight certification support.

The Super Tucano/A-29 is inexpensive to acquire and cheap to operate. The basic aircraft sells for about $10 million although the price rises to about $11 million with the addition of training and logistics support. The A-29 variant is estimated to cost between $20 and 30 million but this includes specialized equipment, spare parts and operational support. The Super Tucano costs around $1,000 a flying hour. The cost to operate for the A-29 is certainly higher given its more sophisticated avionics and mission systems, but even at twice the cost per flying hour of the Super Tucano, it is still a bargain for budget constrained partner nations.

The A-29 first began operating in Afghanistan in 2016. Twelve aircraft have been delivered, seven are in the U.S. for training, and another six will be provided to the AAF by the end of the decade. Ultimately, the Afghan Air Force will have approximately 28 A-29s. Over the past eighteen months, Afghan A-29s have conducted hundreds of missions across the country including at high altitudes and in regions with extreme temperatures. Afghan maintainers, trained in the U.S., have demonstrated a growing ability to support a high operational tempo. It is likely that over time additional aircraft will be bought in order to allow the AAF to provide air support throughout Afghanistan.

Afghanistan is not the only country to see the A-29 as the solution to its light attack requirement. Lebanon has taken possession of six A-29s. Another dozen are on order for Nigeria. Others are reported to be negotiating to acquire the Super Tucano/A-29. There is even a possibility that the Super Tucano/A-29 may find a place in parts of Europe where it could be employed flexibly for surveillance/light attack missions against insurgent groups or, armed with advanced anti-tank weapons, take part in a higher end conflict.

The Air Force is well within its rights to do a market survey to find out what partner countries want in the way of a light attack platform. But based on the way many of these nations have already voted with their defense budget resources, the survey could be a brief one. It is difficult to see any other platform successfully ousting the A-29 Super Tucano from its already dominant position in the light attack/ISR space.

https://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/the- ... -aircraft/

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arcanjo

[FCarvalho]

Uma hora dessas a USAF, e até a USN, acaba sedendo aos encantos do canto do "tucanão".

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