Mais Krivac para a India.

[Luiz Padilha]

India: Russia To Build 3 Frigates
Russia and India signed Jan. 12 a contract worth $1 billion for three Krivak-class frigates to be built for the
Indian navy. The contract went to Kaliningrad-based Yantar Shipbuilding, which is state-controlled, over St.
Petersburg-based rivals Severnaya Verf and Baltiysky Zavod. The first vessel will take more than four years
to deliver, according to Yantar first deputy general director Vladimir Kiselyov.

Eu até como frango ao Curry, mas, na boa dá gosto de ver a India mandando ver, né!

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Padilha

[talharim]

Dá-lhe Índia !!!


Pra virar potência naval só falta realmente alguns SSBNs.

[Guillermo Muñoz]

Pareciera que India ya no sólo quiere "aclarar diferencias" con Pakistán, sino que tambien lo quiere hacer con China!!!!
¡¡¡Que manera de comprar armas y tecnología para producirlas ellos mismos!!!
Salu2

[Rui Elias Maltez]

Dá que pensar:

A indústria naval russa está em pleno com a capacidade de boas e bem armadas plataformas para exportação, e a própria Rússia tem a sua Marinha a cair num estado de assustadora obscolescência de meios, quer de superfície, quer submarinos.

Costuma-se dizer que "em casa de ferreiro, espeto de pau".

Posde ser que com essa capacidade industrial instalada, a Rússia um dia tenha as condições financeiras para proceder à modernização da sua marnha, mais que urgente, no que respeita à frota de fragatas e cruzadores.

[Einsamkeit]

Pelo que sei rui, eles andaram reformando tudo, inclusive um Typhoon voltou a ativa, vao ativar mais um Kirov, reformaram os Slava, e ja se livraram de muitos SSK velhos

[Rui Elias Maltez]

Esta é uma KrivakIII:



Trata-se de uma plataforma concebida nos anos 80, e sem grandes e modernos sistemas de armas para as exigências actuais de batalha em teatros de alta intensidade.

Possivelmente adequado para a Índia, que no entanto já tem melhores fragatas ao seu serviço, mas inadequadas para o hemisfério norte.

Hoje, sem verdadeiras capacidade AAW, nomeadamente como AEGIS ou APAR, sem VLS, as fragatas ficam "côxas", se colocadas em determinadas missões.

Ficarão as Krivak indianas como navios de 2ª linha?

The 'KRIVAK III' was a 1980's redesign of the 1970's 'KRIVAK I' design. These were relatively lightly armed vessels, operated by the KGB for border patrol duties and classed PSKR. The last two ships of the class were taken over by Ukraine; modified versions are in production for India.

Uma KrivakI:

[P44]

India: Russia To Build 3 Frigates
Russia and India signed Jan. 12 a contract worth $1 billion for three Krivak-class frigates to be built for the
Indian navy. The contract went to Kaliningrad-based Yantar Shipbuilding, which is state-controlled, over St.
Petersburg-based rivals Severnaya Verf and Baltiysky Zavod. The first vessel will take more than four years
to deliver, according to Yantar first deputy general director Vladimir Kiselyov.

Serão estas

PROJECT 17


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Project Update: The Sahyadri - the third in the series - was launched at Mazagon DY, Mumbai on 27 May 2005.


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Future Commissions: Shivalik; Laid Down - 11 July 2001, Launched - 18 April 2003, Commissioning - 30 June 2006.
............................Satpura; Laid Down - 2002, Launched - 04 June 2004, Commissioning - 29 December 2006.
............................Sahyadri; Laid Down - 17 March 2003, Launched - 27 May 2005, Commissioning - 30 March 2007.

Displacement: 4600 tons - standard displacement.
...................5000+ tons - full load.

Dimensions: Length - 143 metres.
.................Beam - 17 metres.
.................Draught - 4.5 metres.
.................Moulded Depth - 9.2 metres.

Maximum Speed: 30 knots for GT operations. Maximum cruising speed of 22 knots on diesels.

Complement: 257 (incl. 35 officers)

The Project 17 (P17) standard frigate will be the Indian Navy's (IN) new stealthy multi-role surface combatant for the 21st century. The program calls for 12 units. Cabinet approval for this project was given in 1997, followed by a Letter of Intent (LoI) to the ship's builders, Mazagon Docks Limited (MDL) in February 1998. The IN formally ordered the first three units in early 1999. However, production commenced about two years later due to delays resulting from specification changes to the hull steel and protracted delivery schedule of the Russian-sourced D-40S steel along with the non-availability of design inputs from the Naval Design Bureau (NDB) for the weapons suite. Construction of the first P17 frigate commenced with plate cutting on 18 December 2000, the keel laid on 11 July 2001 and the launch on 18 April 2003. The other two units will then be delivered at regular intervals and subsequent units - twelve planned in all - will likely be built in progressively modified batches. The vessel adopts a compartmental-design and is planned to be built using 172 modules.

The P17 is an enlarged and modified version of the Russian P1135.6 Talwar {Krivak III} Class frigates. It was jointly designed by the NDB and Russia's Severnoye Project Design Bureau (Severnoye Proyektno-Konstruktorskoye Bjuro - SPKB), the designers of the P1135.6 frigate. SPKB has been a consulting partner to the IN for quite some time now and its design influence is clearly seen in the Type 15 Delhi Class destroyers and Type 25/25A Khukri / Kora Class corvettes. More recently, France's DCN International (DCNI) has been involved in this project as a consultant undertaking signature management studies amongst other things. CAE of Canada will act as the overall platform functional integrator, which is landmark since this is the first time a Western company has been put in charge of a vital IN project. So far, the program is more or less on schedule and it is understood that design work has already started on an improved version, the P17 Alpha (P17A).

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Project17.html

[P44]

Dá-lhe Índia !!!


Pra virar potência naval só falta realmente alguns SSBNs.

ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY VESSEL


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The Indian Navy leased a Russian 670 Skat (NATO: Charlie I) Class nuclear powered submarine for three years - from January 1988 to January 1991. In the Indian Navy, the vessel was referred to as the INS Chakra and was manned by a Russian crew who also had the task of training Indian submariners on how to operate the nuclear powered vessel. In addition to becoming a training ground, INS Chakra also acted as a design laboratory for developing and testing indigenous nuclear submarine technologies. The lease was not extended after January 1991 and the submarine was returned back to Vladivostock, Russia where it was decommissioned from Russian Naval service.

The Russian crew that trained the Indian submariners have now taken key posts, probably in the Indian Naval Design Organisation, to design India's nuclear powered submarine codenamed the Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV). This top secret project has facilities in New Delhi, Vizag, Hyderabad and Kalapakkam. A Naval Wing of DRDO runs the organization and since 1985 has had a retired Vice Admiral in charge. In late 2000, the ATV project was given a new lease of life with the appointment of Vice Admiral R.N. Ganesh to take charge. An experienced submariner, he commanded the Charlie I Class {INS Chakra} submarine when she was leased to India.

The hull design is ready and the displacement is estimated to be at 6000 tons. The 190 MW miniature nuclear propulsion system has been tested ashore, possibly at the Kalapakkam atomic research centre. Given the degree of Russian technical assistance, the submarine could resemble the Severodvinsk Class and/or the Akula Class. Reportedly, the submarine will have VLS tubes capable of firing multiple weapons. Fabrication has already commenced at Vizag, but there are no indications as to when the vessel will be laid down or launched. The plan is for a class of five submarines fitted with long-range, nuclear-tipped missiles. A nuclear-capable missile (dubbed 'Sagarika' by the press) is reportedly under development at the Aeronautical Development Establishment (ADE) at Bangalore, in southern India.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/ATV.html

[JLRC]

Esta é uma KrivakIII:



Trata-se de uma plataforma concebida nos anos 80, e sem grandes e modernos sistemas de armas para as exigências actuais de batalha em teatros de alta intensidade.

Possivelmente adequado para a Índia, que no entanto já tem melhores fragatas ao seu serviço, mas inadequadas para o hemisfério norte.

Hoje, sem verdadeiras capacidade AAW, nomeadamente como AEGIS ou APAR, sem VLS, as fragatas ficam "côxas", se colocadas em determinadas missões.

Ficarão as Krivak indianas como navios de 2ª linha?

Rui

As Talwar são consideradas Krivak IV e não têm nada a ver com essas. São navios modernos, de linhas furtivas e bem armados. Não são obviamente navios de 2ª linha. De 2ª linha são as Lafayette

[Rui Elias Maltez]

JLRC:

As Talwar serão essas aí?




TALWAR {KRIVAK III} CLASS

Vessel Type: Guided Missile Frigate, Type 1135.6

Names & Pennant Numbers with commission dates:
INS Talwar F40; Laid Down - 10 March 1999, Launched - 12 May 2000, Commissioned - 18 June 2003.
INS Trishul F43; Laid Down - 24 Sept 1999, Launched - 24 Nov 2000, Commissioned - 25 June 2003.
INS Tabar F44; Laid Down - 26 May 2000, Launched - 25 May 2001, Commissioned - 19 April 2004.

Structure:

The Severnoye (Northern) Design Bureau developed the Project 1135.6 vessel using an earlier Project 1135.1 design, which dated back to the early 1980s.

The extensive scope of redesign and re-engineering for these vessels has realised a multipurpose surface combatant of about 4,000 ton displacement (this increase being attributed to additional weapon systems and the replacement of light alloys with steel), tailored to meet the Indian Navy's specific mission and performance requirements.

Displacement: 3620 tons - standard.
....................4035 tons - full load.

Maximum Speed: 30 knots.

Maximum Range: 4850 miles at 14 knots.
.......................1600 miles at 30 knots.

Maximum Sea Endurance: 30 days.

Complement: 180 (incl. 18 officers)



http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Talwar.html

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De 2ª linha são as Lafayette

[Luiz Padilha]

Essa é a INS Tabar que eu fotografei no Rio de Janeiro novinha em folha na sua 1ª viagem.


Se quiserem ver mais cliquem em: http://www.basemilitar.com.br/Artigo/Tabar/tabar.htm

Abraços,

Padilha

[talharim]

Esse navio é lindo.

Padilha,vc chegou a entrar dentro do navio ?

[Luiz Padilha]

Sim, este foi um de nossos primeiros trabalhos.
Almoçamos com o Embaixador da India no navio. era um dia especial para eles. O navio, apesar deles não nos levarem nos lugares capitais, era muito bem distribuido internamente. Uma pena ter sido um evento em que não pudessemos ter atenção 100% para nós.
Mas valeu cada minuto e a comida também era muito boa.

Abraços,
Padilha

[talharim]

Puxa vida Padilha que legal.....deve ter sido uma visita excepcional......parabéns.....

Qual navio vc gostaria que visse para o Brasil para vcs da Alide visitarem ? Falta algum no curriculum hehehehe ?

Quando o Ronald Reagan aportou no Rio de Janeiro,vcs visitaram ?

Falows,

[talharim]

Desculpe,basemilitar e Alide são a mesma equipe ?