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Pepê,Pepê Rezende escreveu:O real será maior e mais pesado que o Demo... São estimativas!knigh7 escreveu:É bom também não se esquecer da autonomia do Gripen NG
Ah, tanto ela quanto o super cruise já foram testadas, não são apenas estimativas.
Pepê
A célula não é definitiva. A aviônica sempre foi a parte mais avançada do programa. A estrutura do NG pouco terá em comum com a do Demo. A entrada de ar será um um pouco maior, a fuselagem idem ibidem, além de mais reforços nas asas.knigh7 escreveu: Pepê,
Dê uma atualizada sobre o caça. Ele já foi desmontado e remontado várias vezes e foram colocando imputs novos. Aliás eu mencionei a aviônica como não pronta. Mas ela está quase.
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Após negociar com Índia, França espera vender caça ao Brasil
01 de fevereiro de 2012 • 10h50 • atualizado às 11h38
O ministro da Defesa francês, Gérard Longuet, afirmou nesta quarta-feira que tem esperanças de vender o avião de combate Rafale ao Brasil, após ter conseguido negociações exclusivas com a Índia para 126 unidades. "Com o Brasil há esperanças e com a Índia estou confiante", indicou Longuet em entrevista concedida à emissora de televisão francesa Canal Plus, ao ser questionado sobre as possibilidades de exportar o Rafale, que até agora só equipa o Exército francês.
O ministro explicou que as autoridades brasileiras decidiram recuar em um potencial contrato de compra dos caças de fabricação da Dassault Aviation porque optaram por dar prioridade à aquisição de quatro submarinos franceses. "Os brasileiros preferiram comprar primeiro o que lhes fazia mais falta, ou seja, quatro submarinos da França", declarou, acrescentando que a decisão sobre a licitação para os caças segue pendente e que os franceses "estão na frente" de outros concorrentes. Para o eventual êxito da operação, Longuet considerou que a decisão indiana "será muito útil".
O Rafale concorre no Brasil com os Super Hornet F/A-18, da americana Boeing, e os Gripen NG, da sueca Saab, e a decisão sobre a compra foi deixada em suspenso no ano passado pelo governo da presidente Dilma Rousseff devido aos cortes orçamentários realizados. O ministro francês também afirmou que tem "uma forte esperança" que o Rafale possa ser exportado aos Emirados Árabes Unidos.
A Índia anunciou na terça-feira negociações exclusivas com a Dassault para a aquisição de 126 caças Rafale por um custo superior a US$ 10,4 bilhões, o que significa deixar de lado a oferta do consórcio europeu EADS e seu Eurofighter. Para Longuet, essa decisão "é uma grande promessa para toda a indústria aeronáutica e de defesa francesa".
Além disso, apontou que a transferência de tecnologia com o esperado contrato com a Índia "não é apenas inevitável, mas desejável", visto que a França precisa de parceiros para poder continuar vendendo as aeronaves. O titular de Defesa confirmou que o Exército francês poderia abrir mão de integrar algum dos 11 Rafale que por enquanto são fabricados todos os anos em sua frota para poder entregá-lo aos eventuais países compradores.
A fabricação desse caça gera cerca de 10 mil postos de trabalho diretos na França em uma centena de empresas envolvidas em sua produção.
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... inner.htmlFrench Company Dassault Wins Bid for IAF's 126 Fighters
(Source: DDI Indian Government news; issued February 1, 2012)
India has finally selected the Rafale as the lowest compliant bidder in its long-running fighter acquisition project, and will now open exclusive negotiations to buy 126 aircraft, with another 80 on option. (Dassault photo)
French firm Dassault Rafale has bagged India's biggest-ever military contract for supplying 126 combat aircraft for the Air Force, edging out European rival EADS in the deal that may be worth about ten billion dollars.
The French firm was declared as the lowest bidder, according to which it will get the contract under India's defence procurement procedure, sources said in New Delhi on Tuesday.
"The French firm Dassault Rafale has emerged as the L-1 (lowest bidder) and cheaper than its European rival EADS (maker of Eurofighter) in the tender and will be offered to supply the aircraft to the IAF," the source said.
They said the representatives of Dassault in New Delhi were informed about the development in the morning and further negotiations on price will be held with them in the next 10-15 days.
The contract will be signed only in the next fiscal. Government has in 2007 earmarked Rs 42,000 crore for the deal.
According to the Request for Proposal (RFP), the winner of the contract will have to supply 18 of the 126 aircraft to the IAF in 36 months from its facilities and the remaining would be produced at HAL facilities in Bangalore.
Six companies, including American F-16 and F-18, Russian MiG 35, Swedish Saab Gripen along with Eurofighter and Dassault Rafale, were in the race in the beginning.
But in April last year, the Defence Ministry shortlisted Dassault and EADS, rejecting the American, Russian and Swedish bids.
The process was started with the issuing of a global tender in 2007, after which all the six contenders were subjected to extensive field evaluation trials by the Indian Air Force at several locations across the globe.
The bids of the two companies were opened by the IAF on 4th November last year and arrived at the lowest bidder after calculating the life cycle cost of the aircraft.
Sarkozy happy with Rafale selection by India
France said President Nicolas Sarkozy expressed happiness at India's selection of the French fighter aircraft Rafale for acquisition by Indian Air Force and said negotiations for the contract would begin very soon.
"The President of the French Republic has learned of India’s selection of the Rafale for the acquisition by the Indian Air Force of 126 fighter aircrafts. France is pleased with Indian government’s decision to select the French aircraft to enter into exclusive negotiations with Dassault," said a statement issued by the French Embassy in New Delhi on Tuesday.
It said the announcement comes at the end of a very high-level, fair and transparent competition involving two European finalists for the bid.
The statement said "negotiations for the contract will begin very soon and has the full support of the French authorities. It will include important technology transfers guaranteed by the French government.
"Rafale has been selected, thanks to the aircrafts competitive life-cycle costs, after the April 2011 pre-selection on the basis of its top-level operational performance", it added.
"The realisation of the Rafale project will illustrate the depth and scale of the strategic partnership between France and India," the statement said. (ends)
Statement by the French Presidency on MMRCA Deal
(Source: French Embassy in India; issued January 31, 2012)
President Sarkozy has learned of India’s selection of the Rafale with a view to the Indian air force acquiring 126 fighter planes.
France welcomes the Indian government’s decision to select the French plane and enter into exclusive negotiations with Dassault. This announcement comes following a very high-level, fair and transparent competition between two European finalists.
The Rafale was selected thanks to the competitiveness of its total cost over the aircraft’s lifetime, after being shortlisted in April 2011 on the basis of its top-level operational qualities.
Negotiation of the contract will begin very shortly, with the French authorities’ full support. It will include major technology transfers guaranteed by the French state.
The implementation of the Rafale project will illustrate the depth and breadth of the strategic partnership between France and India. (ends)
Rafale Selected to Equip the Indian Air Force
(Source: Dassault Aviation; issued January 31, 2012)
SAINT-CLOUD (France) --- Following the announcement of the final selection of the Rafale in the frame of the MMRCA program, Dassault Aviation and its partners are honored and grateful to the Indian Government and the people of India to be given the opportunity to extend their long-lasting cooperation.
Dassault Aviation and its partners reiterate their commitment to meet the operational requirements of the Indian Air Force and underline their pride in contributing to India’s defence for over half a century.
In the past sixty years Dassault Aviation has delivered more than 7500 civil and military aircraft to 75 countries logging some 20 million flight hours to date and is one of the few aerospace manufacturers mastering the technologies of the complete range of combat aircraft, such as the Rafale while being a world leader in the field of business jets, with the Falcon family.
This unique worldwide experience has allowed Dassault Aviation to build up considerable expertise in the design, development, production, sale and support of all types of aircraft and a recognized and demonstrated know-how, innovative operational solutions as well as a pragmatic and dynamic approach to cooperation.
Within the frame of a step-by-step approach initiated several years ago, it's know-how in the field of systems technologies and airborne vectors allow the company to propose the best cost-efficient solutions to the users.
Thanks to a pragmatic approach in its partnerships, Dassault Aviation has been able to establish a wide cooperation network with other companies, which is not only optimized for the success of today's programmes, but also contributing to the synergy of tomorrow’s defence industries.
(EDITOR’S NOTE: French Defense Minister Gérard Longuet said during a Feb. 1 interview on French television that the contract’s value is approximately 11 billion euros. Dismissing concerns about the high level of technology transfer, and over the loss of French jobs to India, Longuet said that production in India will mostly involve local assembly of French-manufactured components and parts, which will generate substantial payments and royalties for France.
Involving Indian industry “is inevitable, and even desirable,” as this will boost bilateral ties between the two countries.)
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Essa inconsistência já deu o que falar... mas acho que fez parte da iniciativa de manter os russos 'longe' do Brasil.Lord Nauta escreveu:Comparar F18 E/F e RAFALE com Gripen e o mesmo que comparar ovo de galinha com ovo de avestruz.
Acho que foi o que a FAB fez ao incluir na mesma lista um avião de categoria diferente dos outros dois concorrentes. As comparações entre os três acabam tendo sua importância relativizada. Em minha opinião o erro e de origem. Se a FAB queria uma nomo-reator, que necessita por exemplo de revos para cumprir a mesma missão aonde os outros não necessitam, que se limita-se a esta classe de aeronave.
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Lord Nauta
Para manter os russos fora do SL poderiam ter tb selecionado o Typhoon ou o F-16, alem do SH e Rafale. Opcoes para afastar os russos haviam de sobra. Pq escolheram logo o menor e o nao operacional?Carlos Lima escreveu:Essa inconsistência já deu o que falar... mas acho que fez parte da iniciativa de manter os russos 'longe' do Brasil.Lord Nauta escreveu:Comparar F18 E/F e RAFALE com Gripen e o mesmo que comparar ovo de galinha com ovo de avestruz.
Acho que foi o que a FAB fez ao incluir na mesma lista um avião de categoria diferente dos outros dois concorrentes. As comparações entre os três acabam tendo sua importância relativizada. Em minha opinião o erro e de origem. Se a FAB queria uma nomo-reator, que necessita por exemplo de revos para cumprir a mesma missão aonde os outros não necessitam, que se limita-se a esta classe de aeronave.
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Lord Nauta
É o que eu acho.
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