Marechal-do-ar escreveu:Esqueçam o F-18, Su 33 e mig 29, eles não cabem no São Paulo, o maior avião que cabe la é o Rafale e mesmo assim com limitação de peso, acho que se a aeronautica pensa em desenvolver um caça a marinha devia aproveitar.
Os F-18s cabem sim no São Paulo, estes realizaram varios testes nos anos 90 ainda quando este pertencia a marinha da França. Mas ainda sofrem limitação na catapulta, porém estes são hj a melhor opção para a MB, melhor até do que modernizar os A-4. Principalmente em se tratando das versões A/B, estando estes hj estocados e contando com menas horas/voo do que as versões C/D.
...A second chance for the ACM program
Faced with the urgent need to replace the ageing F-8E Crusader, and with the delays of the Rafale M program which would only be available in 1996 (Ndlr: actually, the Rafale Ms are today only being delivered one at a time and squadron 12.F is not yet fully operational), the French Navy considered the lease or purchase of Mc Donnell-Douglas F/A-18 Hornet, already available and in service with the US Navy and US Marine Corps since 1981.
The French Navy openly pronounced itself. "Only the F/A-18 would be able, as soon as 1993, to give carrier aviation defence strong capabilities, that today are decreasing every day"(interview of vice-admiral Goupil, Navy chief-of-staff, to Cols Bleus magazine in 1989). It is also hard to believe "that the purchase of several second-hand aircraft would endanger a new program of at least 400 planes". A Northrop delegation came to Paris in September 1988, to back its offer of 40+ F-18(FN) for the French Navy. It was taken by CV Robert Feuilloy (officer in charge of the nuclear carrier program in 1988-1989 for the Navy headquarters) aboard the Foch aircraft carrier docked at Toulon, and visited the ships aviation infrastructures.
Experts and engineers from both the French Navy and Northrop concluded that only a few minor modifications (worth as much of a F-18 at the time) would be necessary on the carriers, mainly concerning the catapults and jet blast deflectors. Furthermore, the elevators were entirely compatible with the Hornet.
Compatibility tests were planned with two US Navy F/A-18C Hornets (VI Fleet) aboard the Foch (R99) during the month of August 1989, but the carrier docked for the Mediterranean Sea on August 19th and mission Capselle. The Foch returned on September 25th, but no Hornet ever did land on its deck or that of the Clemenceau, because the government abandoned the program. The killing of the French Hornet program was partly compensated by the three fold decision to upgrade the F-8E Crusader to the F-8P (P for Prolongé) standard, to allot the first Rafales to the Navy and not the Air Force, and finally to readjust the budgetary balance of the program in favour of the Navy.
The lease, or purchase of 20+ new or second-hand aircraft would have allowed the Navy to wait for the ACM. However this option was criticized by Dassault-Aviation, the national manufacturer, which refused to see the Navy do such a move, which would endanger the future of its own plane the Rafale. Bruno Revellin-Falcoz, then vice Dassault president in charge of technical matters, research and cooperation, brought up the issue: "How can you ask French manufacturers to develop a high performance combat aircraft, and at the same time consider the purchase of a foreign aircraft unable to respond to the requirements?".
Yet the French Defence Secretary Jean-Pierre Chevènement said he was waiting for "all conditions to be gathered before taking, in due time, a decision that had to be true to France's interest". Vice-admirals Yves Goupil and Guirec Doniol had clearly said that they wanted the F-18 to be a gap filler until the arrival of the Rafale M and not, as they had been accused of saying, a pure and simple replacement for the Rafale M.
One has to remember the Navy's stand at the time: its main concern was to find a suitable fighter to defend the carriers; keeping the Crusader, even with an important upgrade would not be fit for the task. The Navy also confirmed that the Hornet would only be a stopgap, and insisted on the small number of aircraft required; 12 to 15 second-hand F-18s, with just enough lifetime left to wait for the Rafale M.
The decision to risk the absence of a decent interceptor or not could only be a political one: indeed in November 1989 Chevènement met with his counterpart Dick Cheney (current US Vice President), to discuss the possible purchase of 15 aircraft. However on December 22nd 1989 the government confirmed the Rafale M as the sole option for the French fleet air arm. The outcome proved the two admirals right. The Navy kept its Crusaders until December 1999, after 35 years of service (not a record to be proud of), and squadron 12.F only had 4 Rafale Ms on the day its reactivation (May 18th 2001). Fifteen years had passed between the type's first flight and the service entry of the first plane, not a record to be proud of either…
fonte:
http://frenchnavy.free.fr/projects/hornet/hornet.htm
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