Re: Mundo Árabe em Ebulição
Enviado: Seg Set 07, 2015 9:44 am
Nordeste sírio.
E a história de que iam enviar uns dois esquadrões de MIG-29 pra prestarem suporte aéreo ao Exército Sírio?Bolovo escreveu:"Based on all of the above, our team believes that currently Russian marines have been moved to Syria to guard and strengthen the Tartus depot as well as the airbase close to Latakia. We believe infantry does not take part in the fighting. However, we believe that Russian vehicles with Russian crews do go into battle. Support is also rendered at least by Russian UAVs."
http://ruslanleviev.livejournal.com/38649.html
Loco.
Claro que eu entendo. É a famosa hipocrisia norte americana.Clermont escreveu:O governo dos Estados Unidos acabou de apelar ao governo da Grécia que proíba a partida de aviões russos dos aeroportos gregos rumo à Síria. Segundo os americanos, os aviões transportariam armas e munições para o governo Assad.
Os americanos afirmam que as ações russas contribuem para o "agravamento da guerra na Síria."
Engraçado...
Quando os americanos e seus aliados fornecem armas para os rebeldes, juntamente com soldados de operações especiais descaracterizados, isso não contribui para o "agravamento da guerra". Quando os russos enviam armas para o governo no poder isso já "agrava a guerra."
Eu não entendo Obama, por um lado age com sensatez desativando as tensões com o Irã, de outro continua com essa asneira de "Assad precisa sair", mesmo com as conseqüencias expostas para todo mundo ver: ISIS avançando, multidões de refugiados se espalhando no mundo todo.
Alguém entende Obama?
Questões de política interna dos EUA. Obama pode aliviar a pressão sobre o Irã se este concordar em abandonar seu programa de armas nucleares, afinal vai apenas estar voltando à situação pós-revolução iraniana, com a hostilidade de Israel continuando a manter o Irã em conflito contra o ocidente ad eternum. Mas nunca ouve exigências para a paz com o Assad, a ideia sempre for retirá-lo do poder vivo ou morto (de preferência morto a lá Kadafi e Sadam). Então não há agora como "vender" a permanência dele no poder da Síria aos falcões de Washington.Clermont escreveu:Eu não entendo Obama, por um lado age com sensatez desativando as tensões com o Irã, de outro continua com essa asneira de "Assad precisa sair", mesmo com as conseqüencias expostas para todo mundo ver: ISIS avançando, multidões de refugiados se espalhando no mundo todo.
Alguém entende Obama?
Eu acho muito curioso como a Europa abraça sem muita resistência as ações americanas. E quem leva a pior são sempre eles! É muita vira-latisse...LeandroGCard escreveu:Questões de política interna dos EUA. Obama pode aliviar a pressão sobre o Irã se este concordar em abandonar seu programa de armas nucleares, afinal vai apenas estar voltando à situação pós-revolução iraniana, com a hostilidade de Israel continuando a manter o Irã em conflito contra o ocidente ad eternum. Mas nunca ouve exigências para a paz com o Assad, a ideia sempre for retirá-lo do poder vivo ou morto (de preferência morto a lá Kadafi e Sadam). Então não há agora como "vender" a permanência dele no poder da Síria aos falcões de Washington.Clermont escreveu:Eu não entendo Obama, por um lado age com sensatez desativando as tensões com o Irã, de outro continua com essa asneira de "Assad precisa sair", mesmo com as conseqüencias expostas para todo mundo ver: ISIS avançando, multidões de refugiados se espalhando no mundo todo.
Alguém entende Obama?
E afinal, os políticos americanos estão pouco se lixando se metade da população do OM fugir para a Europa, eles continuarão tendo todo o Atlântico separando-os deles.
Leandro G. Card
Al Qaeda Leader Al-Zawahiri Declares War on ISIS 'Caliph' Al-Baghdadi
Just ahead of the fourteenth anniversary of al Qaeda's 9/11 attacks on the U.S., the leader of the terrorist group took aim in an angry speech at a mortal enemy -- but not American “crusaders” this time. Rather, the object of his tirade was the leader of ISIS in a declaration of war that will “irreconcilably” divide the two terror groups in a way the U.S. may be able to exploit, experts say.
Ayman al-Zawahiri, the Egyptian doctor who replaced Osama bin Laden as the head of al Qaeda four years ago, in a new audio message accused ISIS top leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi of “sedition” and insisted the Iraqi terrorist recluse was not the leader of all Muslims and militant jihad as “caliph” of the Islamic State, as al-Baghdadi had claimed 14 months ago in a Mosul mosque.
“It’s pretty interesting,” said former National Counterterrorism Center Director Matthew Olsen. “Zawahiri until now has not been willing to openly condemn Baghdadi and ISIS. It highlights how deep the division is between al Qaeda leadership and ISIS. It suggests that the differences are irreconcilable.”
Had ISIS and al Qaeda realigned by joining forces, it “would be terrible,” said Olsen, an ABC News contributor.
That division -- now formally declared by the highest ranking official of the group that slaughtered almost 3,000 Americans 14 years ago in multi-pronged aviation attacks -- could provide an opening that American counter-terrorism operatives could find a way to exploit, he added.
Olsen said the U.S. could use misinformation to further pit the two jihadi menaces against each other and encourage the series of gunfights and assassinations each has waged against the other -- like when ISIS reportedly killed a top Zawahiri emissary trying to broker a ceasefire between the fighters in Syria in February 2014.
The fledgling franchise in Afghanistan and Pakistan, known as IS Khorasan Province, “has been fighting non-stop” with the Taliban and al Qaeda there, a counter-terrorism official told ABC News. “Fighting each other makes our job easier,” said the official in Afghanistan.
In the new audio tape, which was released online Wednesday and accompanied by a still image or al-Zawahiri and text of his speech, the al Qaeda leader appeared to confirm that he had not directly addressed infighting among the jihadis of ISIS and al Qaeda’s Syrian wing, Jabhat al-Nusra or the al Nusra Front, for fear of legitimizing ISIS.
ISIS, formerly the al Qaeda branch in Iraq, split from the larger group two years ago. In the tape, al-Zawahiri complained that Baghdadi had ignored Muslims suffering in Gaza and in Pakistan.
“We preferred to respond with as little as possible, out of our concern to extinguish the fire of sedition,” Zawahiri explained, “but Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and his brothers did not leave us a choice, for they have demanded that all the mujahideen reject their confirmed pledges of allegiance, and to pledge allegiance to them for what they claim of a caliphate.”
“Everyone was surprised” by Baghdadi’s declaration anointing himself the fourth caliph in Islamic history, Zawahiri remarked, saying al-Baghdadi had done this “without consulting the Muslims.”
Al-Zawahiri's sour grapes speech, however, appeared to have been recorded last spring, analysts said, and reiterated past pledges of loyalty to Taliban leader Mullah Omar, who recently was confirmed dead by the Taliban. That appeared to mark a rare misstep for al Qaeda and al-Zawahiri, who once was able to leak his videotaped response to news events as quickly as one week later, but who now is in hiding with a $25 million U.S. bounty on his head.
Nicholas Palarino, a recently retired senior congressional counter-terrorism adviser who teaches about terrorism at Georgetown University, said al-Zawahiri being forced to call out al-Baghdadi weakens the power of both al Qaeda and ISIS and may offer Arab governments a window of opportunity to drive a wedge between the jihadi groups and those who are flocking to fight in Syria and Iraq.
“Moderate Muslims need to exploit this rift. The leaders of Jordan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Egypt can explain the differences between these two groups to the world’s Muslims,” Palarino said.
Though it didn't foresee the rise of ISIS, former CIA Director Michael Hayden said the intelligence community had predicted a rift in al Qaeda emerging after bin Laden's death -- something like what's happening now between ISIS and al Qaeda, which the U.S. could use to its advantage.
"It would be a good idea to do so. We always thought that the death of bin Laden could create a rift between the Egyptians and the other Arabs inside al Qaeda since Zawahiri was an Egyptian. Seems to have played out," former CIA Director Michael Hayden told ABC News.
When it comes to exploiting the rift between two deadly extremist groups, however, Hayden cautioned, "You need to be careful."
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Acho sempre muito engraçado ver Kuwait e Arábia Saudita listados entre os muçulmanos "moderados".... .cassiosemasas escreveu:“Moderate Muslims need to exploit this rift. The leaders of Jordan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Egypt can explain the differences between these two groups to the world’s Muslims,” Palarino said.
O ex-general Petraeus (que já foi chefe da CIA!) já propôs uma aliança com a Al Qaeda para enfrentar Assad e o ISIS. Os caras são lunáticos.Hermes escreveu:Daqui a pouco a Al Qaeda é perdoada e vira amiga do Ocidente na luta contra os terroristas do Califado.