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#61 Mensagem por tflash » Ter Nov 30, 2010 6:30 pm

Só de pensar que eles compraram a sucata que nós não queríamos faz-nos sentir importantes! :mrgreen:




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#62 Mensagem por WalterGaudério » Ter Nov 30, 2010 6:52 pm

tflash escreveu:Só de pensar que eles compraram a sucata que nós não queríamos faz-nos sentir importantes! :mrgreen:
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#63 Mensagem por P44 » Qui Out 20, 2011 11:27 am

Canada intends that the bulk of the C$33 billion program will go to build 15 Canadian Surface Combatants (CSC) to replace destroyers and frigates now in service.

:arrow: http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... racts.html




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#64 Mensagem por marcelo bahia » Qui Out 20, 2011 12:38 pm

É o efeito Ártico, também conhecido como efeito papai noel trazendo presente de grego! :mrgreen:

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#65 Mensagem por Penguin » Qui Out 20, 2011 3:41 pm

P44 escreveu:Canada intends that the bulk of the C$33 billion program will go to build 15 Canadian Surface Combatants (CSC) to replace destroyers and frigates now in service.

:arrow: http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... racts.html
Hoje eles possuem 15 escoltas de projeto e construção local:

3 Iroquois class guided-missile destroyers
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b7/HMCS_Iroquois_DDH_280.jpg

12 Halifax class multi-role patrol frigates
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/HMCS_Regina_%28FFH_334%29_1.jpg/800px-HMCS_Regina_%28FFH_334%29_1.jpg
http://www.ipolitics.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Frigate-Helicopter.jpg

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#66 Mensagem por Penguin » Qui Out 20, 2011 4:54 pm

Results of the National Shipbuilding Procurement Strategy


(Source: Canadian Department of National Defence; issued October 19, 2011)




Canada intends that the bulk of the C$33 billion program will go to build 15 Canadian Surface Combatants (CSC) to replace destroyers and frigates now in service. (CDND photo)
OTTAWA, Ontario --- The National Shipbuilding Procurement Strategy (NSPS) Secretariat today announced the results of a Request for Proposals to build large ships for Canada.

This strategy will create jobs and generate significant economic benefits in shipbuilding and related industries across Canada. This will involve skilled work in a variety of sectors, such as steel manufacturing, information technology, and defence systems development and integration. Small- and medium-sized enterprises across the country will benefit through the construction of large and small vessels, as well as work related to repairing and refitting.

The National Shipbuilding Procurement Strategy is the result of extensive consultations with the Canadian marine and shipbuilding industry. Canada is a maritime nation with the longest coastline of any country in the world. The renewal of the federal fleet is essential to sustaining Canada’s sovereignty and prosperity by safeguarding international trade, as well as enforcing Canadian law.

The combat package includes the Royal Canadian Navy’s Arctic Offshore Patrol ships and the Canadian Surface Combatants ships.

The non-combat package includes the Navy’s joint support ships, the Canadian Coast Guard’s off-shore science vessels and the new polar icebreaker.

Small ship construction (116 vessels), an estimated value of $2 billion, will be set aside for competitive procurement amongst Canadian shipyards other than the yards selected to build large vessels.

Regular maintenance and repair, valued at $500 million annually, will be open to all shipyards through normal procurement processes.

Irving Shipbuilding Inc. has been selected to build the combat vessel work package (21 vessels), and Vancouver Shipyards Co. Ltd. has been selected to build the non-combat vessel work package (7 vessels). The total value of both packages is $33 billion and will span 20 to 30 years.

The NSPS’s selection of the two shipyards represents the largest procurement sourcing arrangement in Canadian history. The approach and selection process are innovative and unique for the following reasons:

•open and transparent consultations with bidders on the concept, the requirement definition, the evaluation criteria and the weighting of the criteria;
•use of independent third parties: Fairness Monitor; First Marine International; and KPMG and PricewaterhouseCoopers to participate in and oversee the process;
•a governance regime that resulted in merit-based decision-making; and
•extensive transparency measures where bidders were informed of the results first and have agreed to share their own confidential reports on their capability to do the work.

As with all major defence and security procurements, the Industrial and Regional Benefits (IRB) Policy, will apply to the follow-on shipbuilding contracts. The selected shipyards will be required to identify business activities in Canada valued at 100 per cent of the contract value, ensuring a dollar-for-dollar investment into the Canadian economy.

The next step in the implementation of the NSPS is the finalization of a strategic sourcing arrangement, called an umbrella agreement (UA), with each of the selected shipyards. Once the UAs are signed, individual ship construction contracts will be negotiated with the respective shipyards. First in line will be the Arctic Offshore Patrol Ships in the combat package and the Science Vessels for the Canadian Coast Guard in the non-combat package. (ends)


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(Source: Canadian Department of National Defence; issued October 19, 2011)




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#67 Mensagem por Penguin » Qui Out 20, 2011 4:59 pm

Canada to Award C$33 Billion Ship Contract This Afternoon, Official Says
By Andrew Mayeda - Oct 19, 2011 1:17 PM GMT-0300
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-1 ... -says.html

The Canadian government will announce today the winning bidders in a C$33-billion ($33 billion) procurement project to build ships for the Canadian Navy and Coast Guard.

Three shipyards -- Davie Canada, Vancouver-based Seaspan Marine Corp. and Irving Shipbuilding Inc. of Halifax, Nova Scotia -- submitted bids in July on the tender, the biggest government procurement in Canada’s history. The winning bids will be announced at 4:05 p.m. Ottawa time, the government said in an e-mailed advisory.

The project consists of two components: one to build 15 warships and six patrol ships, and another to build as many as eight non-combat vessels, including support ships and a polar icebreaker.
Davie, which was acquired in July by Upper Lakes Group Inc. of Toronto, only bid for the non-combat portion, the official said.

To contact the reporter on this story: Andrew Mayeda in Ottawa at amayeda@bloomberg.net
To contact the editors responsible for this story: Christopher Wellisz at cwellisz@bloomberg.net; David Scanlan at dscanlan@bloomberg.net.




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Re: Marinha do Canadá

#68 Mensagem por pafuncio » Qui Out 20, 2011 5:38 pm

Acho que o CB pegou carona em uma Halifax. Belo navio, belo nome !!!

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#69 Mensagem por Carlos Lima » Qui Out 20, 2011 8:42 pm

pafuncio escreveu:Acho que o CB pegou carona em uma Halifax. Belo navio, belo nome !!!

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Na verdade tive a oportunidade de visitar 3 vezes (Unitas 1x, e NY 2x) e na verdade foi o Cheng quem ficou nela durante a UNITAS... mas se serve de memoria, no's do Frankfurt (meu navio) abastecemos ela 2 vezes.

Navio bem bonito e aquela cor dos navios canadenses 'e bem interessante para o ambiente Artico que operam normalmente.

Uma curiosidade foi que quando abastecemos eles o Cheng ficou todo feliz porque me viu e trocamos um papo no intercon durante o reabastecimento.

Outra mais t'ecnica 'e que aqueles lancadores de Sea Sparrow sao muito 'maceteados' ... improviso pouco 'e bobagem ali :)

Curiosidade 3, 'e que eles tem um Pub no Navio ehhehehehe (n'os no Frankfurt tinhamos uma cervejaria... 8-] )

Curiosidade 4, 'e que ela ja' estava sendo modificada para operar o CH-148 Ciclone.

Tenho umas fotos bem legais dela que tirei a partir do Frankfurt que vou ver se coloco por aqui.

No mais um desses outros navios que vai ser substituido esteve aqui em Seattle em Agosto e 'e minusculo e feio demais (parece um navio de guerra cortado pela metade).

Legal que os caras vao substituir esses navios e estao dando um trato na marinha deles :)

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#70 Mensagem por pafuncio » Sex Out 21, 2011 9:36 am

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#71 Mensagem por P44 » Qua Fev 04, 2015 5:47 pm

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#72 Mensagem por saullo » Qua Fev 04, 2015 7:15 pm

Só resta 1 Iroquois em serviço ?

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#73 Mensagem por FCarvalho » Qui Fev 05, 2015 1:25 pm

A marinha canadense a semelhança da nossa está precisando urgentemente de uma repaginada.

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#74 Mensagem por P44 » Sáb Fev 07, 2015 1:31 pm

saullo escreveu:Só resta 1 Iroquois em serviço ?

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pelos vistos...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois-class_destroyer
Retirement of Iroquois and Algonquin

In August 2013, Algonquin was involved in a collision with HMCS Protecteur during a naval exercise. Algonquin suffered significant damage along her port side hangar. The vessel was laid up following the collision.[9] In May 2014, while visiting Boston, Massachusetts, severe cracks were discovered in the hull of Iroquois requiring her immediate return to Canada and lay up for inspection. The inspection determined the hull was compromised and would require the ship to be laid up indefinitely.[10] On 19 September 2014, the Royal Canadian Navy announced that these two ships were to be decommissioned along with the Protecteur-class, leaving only Athabaskan active.[11]


Name Pennant Number Builder Laid down Launched Commissioned Fate
Iroquois DDG 280 Marine Industries, Sorel, QC 15 January 1969 28 November 1970 29 July 1972 Awaiting disposal
Huron DDG 281 Davie Shipbuilding, Lauzon, QC 1 June 1969 9 April 1971 16 December 1972 Sunk in live fire exercise off Vancouver Island, 14 May 2007
Athabaskan DDG 282 27 November 1970 30 November 1972 Active in service
Algonquin DDG 283 1 September 1969 23 April 1971 3 November 1972 Awaiting disposal




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#75 Mensagem por P44 » Qua Set 09, 2015 2:30 pm

Canadá num tem? Num fá mal, o CHILE empresta... :mrgreen:

VICTORIA, B.C. — Chile and Spain will provide resupply ships to the Royal Canadian Navy on a temporary basis as the Canadian government tries to fast-track the leasing and conversion of a commercial vessel that can provide fuel and provisions to its warships.

The Royal Canadian Navy's senior leaders have been scrambling over the last six months to put in place such measures because of ongoing delays in the construction of its two new supply ships.

Those two vessels — called joint support ships — won't be ready until 2021. In the meantime, the RCN took its two aging supply ships out of service, leaving it with no way of its own to provide fuel, ammunition and other supplies to its vessels at sea.

The Chilean Navy ship, Almirante Montt, arrived at the naval base here on July 3 and will be available for 40 sea days, RCN spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Desmond James said.

Negotiations are still underway with Spain for the provision of a supply ship to be used for the RCN's Atlantic fleet.

The Royal Canadian Navy estimates it will need to rely on its allies and a leased commercial tanker for at least the next six years.

Defence Minister Jason Kenney announced June 23 that the government was entering into discussions with Chantier Davie Shipyard of Levis, Quebec, about the acquisition of what is being called an "interim" supply ship. Those talks would look at the whether the company can provide a commercial vessel that can be converted to provide refueling and other resupply functions for the Navy.

"An interim supply-ship capability will allow the RCN to operate more freely around the world while also keeping our crews' skills up to date in anticipation of the arrival of the more robust joint support ship," Kenney said.

He noted the government is trying to move as quickly as possible to put in place such a capability but he did not provide any details on when that might happen.

Industry sources estimate that once a contract is signed, it will take Chantier Davie around 15 months to complete conversion of a commercial tanker.

The ship would have a commercial crew, although Navy personnel would operate communications equipment and the replenishment-at-sea systems that can transfer fuel to the warships. RCN personnel would eventually replace the commercial crews.

In the meantime, the Almirante Montt will be available to support training for Canada's Pacific naval forces. Canada is paying Chile CAN $6 million (US $4.8 million) for access to the ship for the 40 sea days, James said.

"The training that will be conducted using the Chilean replenishment vessel, which include replenishment-at-sea operations, is vital to maintaining the individual skill sets and core seamanship abilities within the Canadian Fleet that are essential to deployed operations," he said.

At one point the RCN examined the potential purchase of surplus US Navy ships, but that is no longer being considered because of the cost and the lack of availability of vessels.

The US Navy has also offered assistance and the RCN is working to better coordinate the movement of its ships with the USN's supply ship availability, Canadian Navy officers say.

In November 2014, Vice Adm. Mark Norman, the head of the RCN, estimated that Canada could rely on receiving help for at-sea resupply from its allies for about a year.

"The challenge we have now is that the gap is here today, and in addition to that, it's longer than 20 to 24 months, it's several years," Norman explained to journalists at the time. "No matter what we do, we don't see a long-term, sustainable solution coming from our allies."

The RCN removed from service its two supply ships, Preserver and Protecteur. Both carried fuel, food and ammunition for warships. They also provided medical services and helicopter support and maintenance

Norman noted the retirement of the two ships created "a significant gap for Canada that we need to look to mitigate as quickly and as cost-effectively as we can."

Joyce Murray, the defense critic for the opposition Liberal Party, said the gap in capability was caused by the Canadian government's mishandling of military procurement.

The joint supply ships were supposed to be in the water in 2012, but the CAN $2.6 billion project had to be restarted. Construction of the ships is now expected to begin at the Seaspan shipyards in Vancouver, British Columbia, late next year.

"There were delays and problems caused by the government's incompetent management of the procurement file," Murray said.

Canada has selected the German Navy's Berlin-class design for the ships. The Berlin-class ships are 20,200 tons and almost 600 feet long. The Canadian versions would carry two helicopters and be equipped with medical facilities.

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