Israel atacou instalação nuclear Síria ?

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#61 Mensagem por Copello » Sex Set 14, 2007 5:06 pm

Beronha escreveu:A guerra de seculos em forma de post's :D :D

Sabe o que eu penso? (grande merda o que eu penso...)

Que os judeus e arabes vao se matar , pois são extremamente patriotas e inimigos entre sí
só não podemos dizer que é uma guerra entre o bem e mal, nada disso.

Se não tivesse petróleo na regiao ninguem comentava desses merdas.
mas como tem... todo dia tem algo nos noticiarios sobre o conflito sem fim deles.

na realidade eles não querem a paz, a existencia desses povos está em simbiose com o inimigo , que , se não existir, será fabricado.

agora , que dá no saco ver os radicais islamicos se matando (e matando) em nome de Deus , isso dá...


E o melhor disso tudo é que quando os dois estiverem destruídos os EUA vão aparecer como a grande nação que reconstruirá e irá impor novamente a democracia no local. Ah e vai pegar um petróleozinho pra eles que não faz mal a ninguém né!
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#62 Mensagem por rodman » Sex Set 14, 2007 8:30 pm

midnight escreveu:
EDSON escreveu:Não a história nã desmente a Bíblia.

O que vc escreveu está lá .

A Biblía não é confusa.

Têm é que ter paciêmcia para interpreta-la.


Esse é problema cada um interpreta de uma maneira.


Isso é verdade, e o outro problema é que não existe apenas a Bíblia Sagrada, temos todos os outro livros Sagrados de outras religiões, e as outras interpretações.

EDISON agora considero me maduro suficente para ler a Bíblia e realmente vou me aprofundar.




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#63 Mensagem por rodman » Sex Set 14, 2007 8:34 pm

Copello escreveu:
Beronha escreveu:A guerra de seculos em forma de post's :D :D

Sabe o que eu penso? (grande merda o que eu penso...)

Que os judeus e arabes vao se matar , pois são extremamente patriotas e inimigos entre sí
só não podemos dizer que é uma guerra entre o bem e mal, nada disso.

Se não tivesse petróleo na regiao ninguem comentava desses merdas.
mas como tem... todo dia tem algo nos noticiarios sobre o conflito sem fim deles.

na realidade eles não querem a paz, a existencia desses povos está em simbiose com o inimigo , que , se não existir, será fabricado.

agora , que dá no saco ver os radicais islamicos se matando (e matando) em nome de Deus , isso dá...


E o melhor disso tudo é que quando os dois estiverem destruídos os EUA vão aparecer como a grande nação que reconstruirá e irá impor novamente a democracia no local. Ah e vai pegar um petróleozinho pra eles que não faz mal a ninguém né!
8-]


Creio que o Petróleo vai se tornar desinteressante em breve, acreditava que o próximo "tesouro da vez" seria a água, mas agora to começando a me preocupar é com o álccol e as terras necessária para seu plantio e novamente a água para isso também :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: .




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#64 Mensagem por midnight » Sex Set 14, 2007 9:14 pm

rodman escreveu:Creio que o Petróleo vai se tornar desinteressante em breve, acreditava que o próximo "tesouro da vez" seria a água, mas agora to começando a me preocupar é com o álccol e as terras necessária para seu plantio e novamente a água para isso também :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: .


Verdade, pois o pessoal da europa estavam ouvindo o lula, alguma coisa eles querem né.
Pois creio que não estavam ouvindo ele falar pela simpatia dele, e muito menos pela inteligência e menos ainda por ser um expert em economia.
Agora quem devia estar facero era o Bolovo em ver o Lula na Suécia.




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#65 Mensagem por Bolovo » Sex Set 14, 2007 9:33 pm

midnight escreveu:
rodman escreveu:Creio que o Petróleo vai se tornar desinteressante em breve, acreditava que o próximo "tesouro da vez" seria a água, mas agora to começando a me preocupar é com o álccol e as terras necessária para seu plantio e novamente a água para isso também :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: .


Verdade, pois o pessoal da europa estavam ouvindo o lula, alguma coisa eles querem né.
Pois creio que não estavam ouvindo ele falar pela simpatia dele, e muito menos pela inteligência e menos ainda por ser um expert em economia.
Agora quem devia estar facero era o Bolovo em ver o Lula na Suécia.

Por mais bizarro e incrível que pareça, o Lula é até considerado uma figura importante e séria na Europa.




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#66 Mensagem por rodman » Sex Set 14, 2007 9:35 pm

Bolovo escreveu:
midnight escreveu:
rodman escreveu:Creio que o Petróleo vai se tornar desinteressante em breve, acreditava que o próximo "tesouro da vez" seria a água, mas agora to começando a me preocupar é com o álccol e as terras necessária para seu plantio e novamente a água para isso também :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: .


Verdade, pois o pessoal da europa estavam ouvindo o lula, alguma coisa eles querem né.
Pois creio que não estavam ouvindo ele falar pela simpatia dele, e muito menos pela inteligência e menos ainda por ser um expert em economia.
Agora quem devia estar facero era o Bolovo em ver o Lula na Suécia.

Por mais bizarro e incrível que pareça, o Lula é até considerado uma figura importante e séria na Europa.


Pelo menos lá




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#67 Mensagem por joaozinho » Sex Set 14, 2007 9:56 pm

Paisano escreveu:Perguntas de leigo:

Por que Israel pode ter arma nucleares e a Síria e o Irã não podem?

Qual é o critério utilizado?

Israel, ao efetuar esses ataques, só contribui para deixar a região mais explosiva e, com isso, dar mais força aos grupos radicais da região. :?

Pq Síria e Irã assinaram o tratado de submissão e vassalagem nuclear, como o Brasil e pq quem manda nos Eua é judeu.




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#68 Mensagem por rodman » Sex Set 14, 2007 10:11 pm

Os tanques na Turquia:

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#69 Mensagem por rodman » Sex Set 14, 2007 10:14 pm

Mais lenha na fogueira:

Turkish intelligence assisted IDF in attack on Syria – report


Kuwaiti newspaper says Turkish intelligence provided Israel with information on targets Air Force allegedly attacked last week without Turkish government's authorization

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3449145,00.html




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#71 Mensagem por rodrigo » Sex Set 14, 2007 10:48 pm

Boa rodman, buscando informação na fonte [009]

Os coreanos saíram da península pensando que iam fazer malvadezas impunemente:


U.S. official: North Korean atom experts visited Syria

By Barak Ravid, Avi Issacharoff and Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondents and News Agencies

A senior U.S. nuclear official has said that North Koreans were in Syria and that Damascus may have had contacts with secret suppliers to obtain nuclear equipment.

"Syria was on the U.S. nuclear watch list," acting deputy assistant secretary for nuclear nonproliferation policy Andrew Semmel said Friday, asserting that foreign technicians were in the country and that there had been possible contacts with suppliers for nuclear equipment.

Semmel didn't name the suppliers, but said there were North Koreans in Syria and that he couldn't exclude that the network run by disgraced Pakistan nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan was possibly involved.

Semmel was responding to questions about an alleged Israel Air Force airstrike in northern Syria last week. Neither side has explained what exactly happened, but a U.S. government official confirmed that Israeli warplanes were targeting weapons from Iran and destined for Hezbollah militants in Lebanon.

The Washington Post reported Thursday that Israel had gathered satellite imagery showing possible North Korean cooperation with Syria on a nuclear facility.

North Korea, which has a long alliance with Syria, condemned the Israeli air incursion. Israeli experts say North Korea and Iran both have been major suppliers of Syria's missile stock.

"There are indicators that they do have something going on there, he said," Semmel said. "We do know that there are a number of foreign technicians that have been in Syria. We do know that there may have been contact between Syria and some secret suppliers for nuclear equipment. Whether anything transpired remains to be seen."

"So good foreign policy, good national security policy, would suggest that we pay very close attention to that," he said. "We're watching very closely. Obviously, the Israelis were watching very closely."

Asked if the suppliers could have been North Koreans, he said: "There are North Korean people there. There's no question about that. Just as there are a lot of North Koreans in Iraq and Iran."

Asked if the so-called Khan network, which supplied nuclear technology to Iran, Libya and North Korea, could have been involved, he said he wouldn't exclude it.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack declined to comment on Semmel's remarks but noted that the United States had long-standing concerns about North Korea and nuclear proliferation.

"We've also expressed, over time, our concerns about North Korea's activities in terms of dealing with A.Q. Khan and others around the globe," he told reporters.

McCormack said he was not aware of any specific link between North Korea and Syria.

The former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton, said North Korea may be using Syria and Iran as "safe havens" for its nuclear activity, and another U.S. official was quoted as saying Damascus may be building a nuclear facility with North Korean assistance.

Bolton recently told Haaretz that United States President George W. Bush warned North Korea last year against transferring nuclear material to Syria, Iran or a terrorist organization, saying such a move would be perceived as a "grave threat."

Bolton, now affiliated with the "American Enterprise Institute" in Washington, served Bush in his first term as Under-Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security. In that capacity, as well as later, he clashed with other officials, most notably from CIA, regarding Syria's nuclear plans.

Israel has refused to make any comment about the incident. However, senior Israeli and American officials have expressed speculations that the alleged attack was designed to thwart the possible development of Syrian nuclear capabilities.

A former Israeli official who would not be named said he had heard the attack had been carried out against a facility capable of producing non-conventional weapons.

In an interview on Fox News on Thursday, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said in response to a question on reports of Syrian nuclear development, that her government is working to prevent "the world's most dangerous people from having the world's most dangerous weapons."

Rice did not refer directly to Syria at any point, but said, "That's why we have a Proliferation Security Initiative that tries to intercept dangerous cargos. So this is something that's been at the highest point of the President's agenda since he came into power and we work every day and we watch it every day and we're vigilant about it and we're determined."

Fox also quoted U.S. sources as saying North Korea had apparently transferred information, technology and equipment to enrich uranium.

According to a Washington Post report, a U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said recent satellite images gathered over the past six months, mostly by Israeli sources, indicate Syria may be building such a facility.

Access to the information has been heavily restricted to a team headed by security adviser Stephen J. Hadley, leaving many in the intelligence community unaware of the reports' significance, the Post quoted sources as saying.

Reuters reported Wednesday that U.S. officials had confirmed that the IAF strike, but would not discuss the intended targets.

"The strike I can confirm. The target, I can't," said one U.S. official, adding that there had been more than one strike. Another official called reports on the likely targets "confused."

The New York Times said Wednesday that likely targets were weapons caches Israel believed Iran was sending to Hezbollah via Syria, a claim dismissed later in the day by the Syrian ambassador to the United Nations.

"This is blah blah. This is nonsense, this is an unfounded statement. It is not up to the Israelis or anyone else to assess what we have in Syria," said Bashar Ja'afari.

"There was no target, they dropped their munitions. They were running away after they were confronted by our air defense," he added.

The New York Times quoted a Defense Department official as saying the IAF struck at least one target in northeastern Syria, but said it was unclear what the target was and what was the extent of the damage.

Syria said Friday that there would be no military response to the incident. Damascus protested Tuesday to the United Nations about the strike.

Israel has repeatedly declined to comment on the matter, but American television network CNN reported Tuesday that the Israeli government is "very happy with the successful operation."

Senior CNN correspondent Christiane Amanpour, citing Middle Eastern and Washington sources, said aircraft and possibly even ground forces, who may have directed the planes to their target, took part in the operation.

The attack left "a big hole in the desert," the report said. CNN quoted U.S. government and military sources as saying they were "happy to have Israel convey to both Syria and Iran the message that they can get in and out and strike when necessary."

Al-Jaafari said Israel had violated Syrian air space and dropped munitions, but denied that Israel had landed troops inside Syria.

"This is absolutely not true," he said, adding that the reports were an attempt to show that Israel could land troops wherever it wants.

The only countries that have expressed solidarity with Syria are Iran and North Korea. Russia issued a condemnation of sorts.

Report: U.S. says Israel took images of Syria atomic facility

Meanwhile, the New York Times on Wednesday quoted a Bush Administration official as saying Israel had recently photographed possible nuclear installations in Syria.

"The Israelis think North Korea is selling to Iran and Syria what little they have left," the New York Times quoted the official as saying.

"One Bush administration official said Israel had recently carried out reconnaissance flights over Syria, taking pictures of possible nuclear installations that Israeli officials believed might have been supplied with material from North Korea," the paper wrote.

"The administration official said Israeli officials believed that North Korea might be unloading some of its nuclear material on Syria," the report said.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/903398.html

A Síria avisou que não retaliará :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Syria says not planning a military response to IAF air strike
By Haaretz Staff and News Agencies

The Syrian deputy foreign minister said Friday that Damascus is not planning a military response, a week after claiming that Israel Air Force warplanes bombed targets in its territory. (Click here for map).

Damascus announced last Thursday that IAF jets had violated its airspace, and had been fired upon by Syrian air defenses. Israel has refused to make any comment about the incident.

But Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faysal Mekdad warned after a meeting with his Russian counterpart Friday that growing tension could spark a violent outbreak in the region, and that Syria has the "means to respond in ways that will preserve its position of power."

European diplomats who met with Syrian Vice President Walid Moallem earlier this week had told Haaretz that they had received the impression that Syria would not retaliate militarily.

The Reuters news agency reported Wednesday that U.S. officials had confirmed that an IAF air strike against Syria, but would not discuss the intended targets.

The former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton, said North Korea may be using Syria and Iran as "safe havens" for its nuclear activity.

Syria protested Tuesday to the United Nations about the strike, but has said that no targets had been struck and that there was no damage.

According to Syria's envoy to the United Nations, Bashar al-Jaafari, the proterst complained of Israel's "aggression and violation of [Syrian] sovereignty."

Al-Jaafari said the complaint came in two letters to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and the president of the Security Council. The letters said the IAF had violated the disengagement agreement reached after the 1973 Yom Kippur War.

The envoy said Wednesday that Damascus was reserving the right to determine the timing and manner of its response to the incident.

"The Syrian response has not yet come," said Bashar al-Jaafari, in an interview with BBC Arabic.

Al-Jaafari said Israel had violated Syrian air space and dropped munitions. But he denied reports that Israel had landed troops inside Syria.

"This is absolutely not true," he said, adding that the reports were an attempt to show that Israel could land troops wherever it wants.

The only countries that have expressed solidarity with Syria are Iran and North Korea. Russia issued a condemnation of sorts.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/903732.html




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#72 Mensagem por Bolovo » Sex Set 14, 2007 10:56 pm

Essa IAF é do caralho hahaha :mrgreen:

Andaram passeando de F-15I por cima da Siria, da Turquia, de todo mundo e estão nem aí! :lol:

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#73 Mensagem por rodman » Sex Set 14, 2007 11:39 pm

É a hora do Irã tá chegando




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#74 Mensagem por rodman » Sáb Set 15, 2007 10:11 pm

Agora a Síria tá dizendo que a Força Aérea Israelence estava voando atoa sobre a Síria, então eles acionaram sua eficientissima defesa aérea, os pilotos israelences ficaram aterrorizados, e alijaram suas bombas e tanques de combustível.

Só falta a IAF dizer que seus pilotos cometeram um erro de navegação :twisted: .




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#75 Mensagem por ernando » Sáb Set 15, 2007 10:44 pm

PUTA QUE PARIU!! Israel é um país do caralho!
É de dar inveja. Vai lá e faz o que tem que ser feito, sem firulas diplomáticas, e foda-se a inapetência da ONU.
Já salvou o mundo da bomba atômica de Saddam, e vai agir de novo para acabar com a bomba iraniana.




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