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Indian Navy Aircraft Carrier INS Vikramaditya Finally Fitted with Defensive Weapon Systems

The Indian Navy aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya was upgraded with Barak-1 air defense systems and Russian made AK-630 close-in weapon systems (CIWS). "INS Vikramaditya will sail out of the harbour in Karwar after its first short refit and join the Navy in a week" said Vice-Admiral P. Murugesan, Vice-Chief of the Naval Staff. Vikramaditya, acquired from Russia for $2.3 billion, was commissioned into the Indian Navy in November 2013 without air-defence systems.

The newly fitted systems include Israeli made (Rafael) Barak-1 surface-to-air missile systems (in Vertical Launch Systems) and four 30mm six-barrel AK-630 CIWS guns. The systems were taken off decommissioned Project 16 Godavari class Frigates.

The carrier was originally scheduled to receive the Barak-8 air & missile defense system but the carrier was inducted without it because of delays in the program.

The Vikramaditya, previously known as the Admiral Gorshkov, is a Soviet-made Project 1143.4 class aircraft carrier. It was sold to India in 2004. The refit that lasted eight years was the subject of a dispute between the two sides over cost. It was handed over to the Indian navy on November 16 2013 at the Semvash shipbuilder and departed from Russia on November 26.

INS Vikramaditya is in a STOBAR configuration, with a 14.3 degree ski-jump on the bow and three arrestor wires on the stern of the angled deck. This allows the operation of 16 MiG-29K (and KUB) or Sea Harrier fighter aircraft and 10 helicopters.

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Depois da Rússia, a India...

Indian Navy Brahmaputra class frigates INS Betwa and INS Beas arrived yesterday at Bandar Abbas of Iran for scheduled joint exercises with Iranian Navy. This is the 2nd exercise with another nation this month. Earlier, on August 10, two Russian Navy Buyan class corvettes (proj. 21630) visited Bandar Anzali, Iran, for a 3-day exercise. Source: www.uskowioniran.com

Say Farewell to the World’s Oldest Aircraft Carrier
INS 'Viraat' to retire in 2016




The Indian aircraft carrier INS Viraat is not only the oldest operational aircraft carrier in the world. She is the longest-serving aircraft carrier ever.

But all carriers must come to an end. In mid-2016, the Indian Navy will decommission Viraat. To put that in perspective, she will have served for 63 years since her launch date, most of that time as the Royal Navy carrier HMS Hermes. The world’s second longest-serving carrier, INS Vikrant, served for 52 years, coming in ahead of America’s USS Midway, which tapped out at 47 years.

If you think that’s old, construction began on Viraat’s hull during World War II. Modified in 1980 to launch Harrier jets — which can “jump” off a ramp at the end of the deck and land like a helicopter — Hermes served as the British flagship in the Falklands War. The United Kingdom sold her to India in 1987, when she became Viraat.

To be sure, Viraat’s age is one of the main reasons New Delhi is retiring her. But another reason is that the vessel’s Harrier jets have deteriorated even more. “They — the Harriers and the carrier — have a symbiotic relationship and it’s in the fitness of things to phase out both together,” commanding officer Capt. Rajesh Pendharkar said.

At most, Viraat has fewer than half the Harriers that Hermes transported at peak strength in the South Atlantic.

The Hindu reported earlier this year:

The retirement call was forced, in part, by the dwindling fleet of Sea Harrier fighters operating from the deck of Viraat. While the limited upgrade Sea Harrier (LUSH) programme bestowed the fighters with modern avionics and beyond visual range (BVR) strike capability, the ageing airframe has been a concern. Not more than seven Sea Harriers are available at the moment — some of them cannibalized (used as “Christmas Tree” for spares) to keep the relatively agile ones airworthy.

Now there’s the question of what to do with the ship. “The Navy has mooted three options — either to sell it in an auction, convert it into a museum or use it for target practice,” the Indian Express reported.

The problem with the first two choices is that India needs a buyer — an unlikely proposition — or a patron willing to foot the cost of converting her into a museum. India could perhaps scrap her, though it’s an open question how much corrosion has affected her steel’s structural integrity. Scrapping Viraat might not be worth it.

India has one other aircraft carrier in service, the INS Vikramaditya, formerly the Russian Kiev-class carrier Admiral Gorshkov. Operating this carrier has been a nightmare for the Indian Navy. Refurbishing her cost far more than New Delhi expected, and boiler troubles put her out of action during sea trials three years ago.

Vikramaditya also doesn’t carry Harriers, practically obsolete in modern warfare, but MiG-29s. India plans to build two more carriers, a new Vikrant and the Vishal, but only Vikrant is under construction and, again, there are delays. Troubles aside, keeping the original Viraat operational for so long is a historical feat.

India's First Indigenous Aircraft Carrier INS Vikrant to be Delivered in December 2018

India's minister of defense announced that the indigenous aircraft carrier INS Vikrant will be delivered to the Indian Navy in December 2018. The non-availability of warship grade steel, delayed ordering of propulsion system integration and delay in russian approvals for design and equipment supply are the reasons for the hold back.


India's first indigenous aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant. Picture: Indian Navy

India on June 10th 2015 undocked its first indigenously-built aircraft carrier INS Vikrant at Cochin Shipyard Limited (CSL) in the South West of the country. The ship is currently undergoing final outfitting.

The launch of the 37,500-tonnes, 260 metres long and is 60 metres wide vessel was behind schedule by three years. It is expected to start its sea trials in 2016.

Maximum speed of the ship is announced at 28 knots, the ship reported range is 7,500 nautical miles at a speed of 18 knots. INS Vikrant is set to receive a large crew complement composed of 160 officers and 1,400 sailors.

The aircraft carrier will be able to accommodate 30 fighters and helicopters, including Mig-29K fighters and Ka-31 helicopters.

Este projecto quando for concluído vai dar à Marinha Indiana um poder brutal.

http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2015/12/10 ... a-em-2015/

Como coloca vídeo aqui no fórum???

Video da 5a marinha mais poderosa do mundo....
E isso porque não sabem nada. São todos burros segundo alguns aqui.

E pensar que se o Peamb fosse realizado, nós tomaríamos o lugar deles e também o da 4a marinha mais poderosa que é a do Japão.
Ficaríamos atrás apenas de EUA, China e Rússia.

Luís Henrique escreveu:http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2015/12/10 ... a-em-2015/

Como coloca vídeo aqui no fórum???

Video da 5a marinha mais poderosa do mundo....
E isso porque não sabem nada. São todos burros segundo alguns aqui.

E pensar que se o Peamb fosse realizado, nós tomaríamos o lugar deles e também o da 4a marinha mais poderosa que é a do Japão.
Ficaríamos atrás apenas de EUA, China e Rússia.

Use as tags [youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhRR20Kx9cA

Luís Henrique escreveu:E pensar que se o Peamb fosse realizado, nós tomaríamos o lugar deles e também o da 4a marinha mais poderosa que é a do Japão.
Ficaríamos atrás apenas de EUA, China e Rússia.

O que, se pensar bem, seria um tremendo absurdo para um país que sequer tem inimigos a apontar .


Leandro G. Card

Bolovo escreveu:

Luís Henrique escreveu:http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2015/12/10 ... a-em-2015/

Como coloca vídeo aqui no fórum???

Video da 5a marinha mais poderosa do mundo....
E isso porque não sabem nada. São todos burros segundo alguns aqui.

E pensar que se o Peamb fosse realizado, nós tomaríamos o lugar deles e também o da 4a marinha mais poderosa que é a do Japão.
Ficaríamos atrás apenas de EUA, China e Rússia.

Use as tags [youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhRR20Kx9cA

Eu tentei fazer isso.

O que coloco entre as tags? A url do video?

LeandroGCard escreveu:

Luís Henrique escreveu:E pensar que se o Peamb fosse realizado, nós tomaríamos o lugar deles e também o da 4a marinha mais poderosa que é a do Japão.
Ficaríamos atrás apenas de EUA, China e Rússia.

O que, se pensar bem, seria um tremendo absurdo para um país que sequer tem inimigos a apontar .


Leandro G. Card

Sim. Mas se pensarmos que somos o 5º maior país do mundo em território, que somos o 5º maior do mundo em população e que somos a 6ª ou 7ª maior economia, nada mais natural que possuir forças armadas compatíveis com o tamanho do nosso país, tanto geográfico, populacional e econômico.


O Japão possui 47 navios escolta denominados todos de destroyers e partem para 22 submarinos convencionais.
Pelo PEAMB a MB teria 30 escoltas de 6.000 toneladas e 21 submarinos (sendo 15 convencionais e 6 nucleares) + 2 navios aeródromos com 24 caças em cada.
Creio que devido aos submarinos nucleares e aos navios aeródromos teríamos uma marinha mais poderosa que a do Japão.

Mas o sonho acabou.

Luís Henrique escreveu:

Bolovo escreveu: Use as tags [youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhRR20Kx9cA

Eu tentei fazer isso.

O que coloco entre as tags? A url do video?

Sim, o url do vídeo. Só que tira o "s" do https, deixando http. Assim:

P44 escreveu:India's First Indigenous Aircraft Carrier INS Vikrant to be Delivered in December 2018

The launch of the 37,500-tonnes, 260 metres long and is 60 metres wide vessel was behind schedule by three years. It is expected to start its sea trials in 2016.
Maximum speed of the ship is announced at 28 knots, the ship reported range is 7,500 nautical miles at a speed of 18 knots. INS Vikrant is set to receive a large crew complement composed of 160 officers and 1,400 sailors.
The aircraft carrier will be able to accommodate 30 fighters and helicopters, including Mig-29K fighters and Ka-31 helicopters.

Eu continuo aqui acreditando que para uma marinha como a nossa, esta solução indiana de Nae é muito mais suscetível de sucesso do que Nae's de 50/60 mil tons.

Acho mais crível e viável arrumar 4 destes, do que dois daqueles.

abs.

LeandroGCard escreveu:

Luís Henrique escreveu:E pensar que se o Peamb fosse realizado, nós tomaríamos o lugar deles e também o da 4a marinha mais poderosa que é a do Japão.
Ficaríamos atrás apenas de EUA, China e Rússia.

O que, se pensar bem, seria um tremendo absurdo para um país que sequer tem inimigos a apontar .
Leandro G. Card

Certo dia, um velho chinês muito doido há muitos anos atrás disse um negócio mais ou menos assim: "que nossa capacidade de defesa não deve se basear no fato de que o inimigo não venha, mas na nossa presteza em aprontar-nos de forma tal que, ele vindo, nossas defesas sejam inespugnáveis... "

Acho que nossa lógica de defesa deveria ser por aí. E se estou certo, 30 navios para uma marinha que jamais em quase 200 anos teve uma capacidade real de defender o país, é até razoável, já que não vamos sair por aí dando bordoada em ninguém mundo afora. No máximo ali do outro lado do Atlântico.

abs.

FCarvalho escreveu:

P44 escreveu:India's First Indigenous Aircraft Carrier INS Vikrant to be Delivered in December 2018

The launch of the 37,500-tonnes, 260 metres long and is 60 metres wide vessel was behind schedule by three years. It is expected to start its sea trials in 2016.
Maximum speed of the ship is announced at 28 knots, the ship reported range is 7,500 nautical miles at a speed of 18 knots. INS Vikrant is set to receive a large crew complement composed of 160 officers and 1,400 sailors.
The aircraft carrier will be able to accommodate 30 fighters and helicopters, including Mig-29K fighters and Ka-31 helicopters.

Eu continuo aqui acreditando que para uma marinha como a nossa, esta solução indiana de Nae é muito mais suscetível de sucesso do que Nae's de 50/60 mil tons.

Acho mais crível e viável arrumar 4 destes, do que dois daqueles.

abs.

Concordo com você.
Eh pelo menos 3 vezes. mais. econômico que um navio aeródromo médio europeu.
Um caça como o mig-29K ou uma versão naval do mig-35 também custaria, pelo menos 3x menos que um caça naval Ocidental.

E os escoltas a melhor opção que vejo são fragatas da classe admiral gorshkov, novamente, pelo menos 3x mais barato que fragatas europeias....