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#46 Mensagem por P44 » Ter Mar 04, 2008 12:30 pm

mais barracada com os UPHOLDER :!: :!:

Canada’s lone operating submarine is back in the water after getting some repairs in Florida.

HMCS Corner Brook had a problem with its battery ventilation fans, navy spokeswoman Lt.-Cmdr. Marie-Claude Gagne said Monday.

She said the repairs were done during a scheduled stop in Mayport, Fla. The submarine docked Feb. 22 and was there for 10 days, she said.

Lt.-Cmdr. Gagne said officials normally say very little about submarine operations. In fact, a submariner told The Chronicle Herald that Corner Brook’s crew signed a declaration of secrecy prior to leaving in early February for three months at sea.

Corner Brook is one of four Victoria-class submarines Canada bought from Britain in the late 1990s. Canada has had trouble with them ever since, including a fatal fire aboard HMCS Chicoutimi in October 2004. The fire damage is not slated to be repaired until 2010, and Chicoutimi is being used for spare parts. HMCS Victoria is undergoing a major refit in Esquimalt, B.C., while HMCS Windsor is undergoing repairs and upgrades in Halifax.

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Canada has awarded initial contracts for the refit of its 12 Halifax-class frigates, with systems upgrade contracts to follow later this year. (Canadian DND photo)



Government of Canada Announces Refit of Navy Frigates - Contracts Will Boost Economy and Create Jobs



(Source: Public Works and Government Services Canada; issued April 21, 2008)


(Note: all monetary amounts are in Canadian dollars - C$)

GATINEAU, Québec --- The Minister of Public Works and Government Services Canada, Michael M Fortier, and the Minister of National Defence and Minister of the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, Peter Gordon MacKay, today announced that the Government of Canada has awarded two contracts, one to Halifax Shipyards, Nova Scotia, with a value of $549 million, and the other to Victoria Shipyards Company Limited, British Columbia, with a value of $351 million, for the on-going maintenance and refit of Canada’s 12 frigates.

“These contracts, which are the result of an open, fair and transparent procurement process begun in April 2007, will create many local jobs and help stimulate the economies of the Pacific and Atlantic regions,” said Minister Fortier, adding, “They will reinforce a centre of excellence for the frigates on each coast and reduce the risk of relying on foreign shipyards. Canada depends on a qualified work force to repair vessels.”

The contract to Halifax Shipyards is for the on-going maintenance and repair of seven frigates on the east coast of Canada. At its peak, it is expected to maintain and create up to 600 local jobs.

The contract to Victoria Shipyards Company Limited is for the on-going maintenance and refit of five ships on the west coast. It is expected to create up to 110 local jobs and to help maintain an additional 450 jobs.

“The modernization of the Halifax Class frigates will ensure the Navy maintains its operational capability,” said the Honourable Peter Gordon MacKay, Minister of National Defence and Minister of the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency. “It will also ensure Canadian sailors have the best available equipment to continue ensuring the safety of our water and ongoing cooperation with our allies.”

Each contract is valid for a period of 12 years from the date the contract is awarded. If the refit options are exercised, both shipyards will need to complete the refit work of each vessel within a 12-month operational window allotted to that vessel.

The Halifax Class frigates were built in early 1990 and now require upgrades and systems modernization, particularly in the areas of marine engineering, command, control and combat systems.

Both Victoria Shipyards and Halifax Shipyards will be required to provide Industrial Benefits equal to 100 per cent of the total value of their respective contracts.

“Through the industrial benefits policy, we are ensuring that every contract dollar awarded is invested back into the Canadian economy,” said Minister Fortier. “The contractors have committed to generating high-quality, lasting economic activity in the Canadian economy.” (ends)


Backgrounder: Halifax Class Modernization Project: Award of Multi-Ship Refit Contracts


(Source: Public Works and Government Services Canada; issued April 21, 2008)



The Halifax Class Modernization Frigate Life Extension (HCM/FELEX) Project is a program (estimated at about $3.1 billion) aimed at the mid-life modernization of the 12 Halifax Class frigates. The frigates were built in early 1990 and now require upgrades and systems modernization, particularly in the areas of marine engineering, command, control and combat systems.

The HCM/FELEX project involves frigates located on both coasts (seven on the east coast and five on the west coast). There are five major contract elements that are essential to its success:

-- Two Multi-ship Refit contracts being announced today (one awarded to Victoria Shipyards and one awarded to Halifax Shipyards). These contracts will involve the on-going maintenance and refit of Canada’s 12 frigates. The first contract, awarded to Halifax Shipyards, Nova Scotia, has a total estimated value, including options, of $549 million. The second contract, awarded to Victoria Shipyards Company Limited, British Columbia, has a total estimated value, including options, of $351 million.
These two contracts, related to the frigates will be awarded later this year.

-- A Combat Systems Integrator (CSI) contract estimated at $1.1 billion. The contract will involve the upgrade of the command and control system of the 12 frigates, a redesign of the operations room and reconfiguration of the ships’ mast to accommodate a new radar suite. A Request for Proposal (RFP) for this contract was issued in February 2008, with a contract award expected in fall 2008.

-- A separate contract estimated at $300 million for the provision of long-term in-service support for the Command & Control System (CCS). The RFP for this contract was incorporated in the same CSI RFP (see information above) issued in February 2008, with a contract award expected in fall 2008.

-- The fifth contract is a Platform System Design Agent Contract valued at $150 million. This contract, awarded to Fleetway Incorporated in October 2006, is for the provision of numerous system engineering and technical documentation management services for the Halifax Class frigates.

Multi-Ship Refit contracts
The multi-ship refit contract will involve upgrading and modernizing the systems of Canada’s 12 Halifax Class frigates in three phases.

1. The initial phase consists of regularly scheduled maintenance and repairs to the frigates.
2. The second phase involves the mid-life refit of the ships, which will be conducted in conjunction with the Combat System Integrator component.
3. The third phase is the ships’ regular maintenance and repairs following the refits until the end of each vessel’s life expectancy.

The decision to proceed with each subsequent phase will be based on Canada receiving best value for each preceding phase.

Victoria Shipyards Contract Details
On March 17, 2008, Victoria Shipyards Company Limited of British Columbia was awarded a contract for the on-going maintenance and refit of five frigates on the west coast. The contract has a total estimated value including options of $351 million. It is expected to create up to 110 local jobs and to help maintain an additional 450 jobs.

Halifax Shipyards Contract Details
On March 31, 2008, Halifax Shipyards of Nova Scotia was awarded a contract for the on-going maintenance and refit of seven frigates on Canada’s east coast. The contract has a total estimated value, including options, of $549 million. At its peak, it is expected to maintain and create up to 600 jobs.

Each contract will be valid for a period of twelve years from the date they are awarded.

As part of the RFP, Victoria Shipyards Co. Ltd and Halifax Shipyards each submitted a proposal confirming their compliance with the mandatory requirements and other criteria, including commitments for the provision of Industrial Benefits (IRB), equal to 100% of their respective contract values.

If the options are exercised, the shipyards will need to complete the refit work of each vessel within a 12-month operational window allotted to that vessel.

Procurement Process
The award of the frigate maintenance and refit contracts follows a Solicitation of Interest and Qualification (SOIQ) issued on MERX, the government’s electronic tendering process, in April 2007.

Two companies, Halifax Shipyards and Victoria Shipyards, submitted responses that were evaluated to be in accordance with the mandatory requirements listed in the SOIQ. A Request for Proposal (RFP) was subsequently issued to both shipyards.

Both companies submitted proposals in response to this RFP that were found to be compliant with the project’s mandatory requirements and other criteria.

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#48 Mensagem por P44 » Qui Jun 19, 2008 7:30 am

A interminável SAGA dos Ex-UPHOLDER (do que nós nos livrámos....!!!!!)

Sub Fleet Creating Canadian Controversies

Canada’s aging fleet of Oberon class submarines had become simply too old to put in the water. In July 2000, their de facto retirement became official. The question was: what, if anything, would replace them? With long coastlines, and a significant portion of its iced-in northern seas used as running grounds for foreign submarines, it was felt that giving up submarine capability was not a viable option for the country’s sovereignty.

Unfortunately, the country’s purchase of second-hand diesel-electric Upholder Class submarines from Britain ran into controversy almost from its inception. Refit and refurbishment costs for the renamed Victoria Class skyrocketed well past the initial GBP C$ 750 million estimate, and reliability problems ensued. Then, on Oct 5/04, HMCS Chicoutimi was sailing from Falsane, Scotland when it was disabled by a fire caused by the entry of seawater. One sailor died, 2 others were injured, and the boat had to be rescued by British frigates. HMCS Corner Brook [SSK 878] is currently the only Canadian submarine in service. HMCS Victoria [SSK 876] and HMCS Windsor [SSK 877] are undergoing repairs and upgrades, and HMCS Chicoutimi [SSK 879] is in drydock being used for spare parts, as it is not scheduled to have its fire damage repaired until 2010 or 2012.

In early 2008, controversy flared again as the submarines’ C$ 1.5 billion Victoria Class In-Service Support Contract (VCISSC) became an issue. The government had finally pushed through a decision in January – but implementation ran into another lawsuit filed by the losing bidder, as well as strong pressure from a member of the Prime Minister’s own party. Who also happens to be the Canadian Parliament’s recognized authority on its submarines. Now there are revelations that Canada will have just 1 operational submarine until 2009…

The Submarine Support Contract Controversy


The VCISSC contract is seen as an important final stage in getting the Victoria Class into active service at last. It was put out for tender in September 2006, and 3 consortia bid. In January 2007, Canadian Submarine Management Group (CSMG) of British Columbia was deemed “most compliant” due to its points rating, and picked as the preferred bidder. A lawsuit by Irving Shipbuilding caused the government to break off negotiations, however, stalling the deal.

In November 2007, it was reported the government might cancel the deal, which represents about 150 of jobs in Victoria over 15 years. That drew outrage from local BC politicians. In January 2008, however, a decision was taken to re-start those negotiations with CSMG to get the deal done. DND spokesman David Martin has told the Canadian Press news agency that those negotiations are underway, and a final contract is expected in a few months.

The decision reportedly went all the way up to Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s desk. Even so, the signing of that contract is about to face rough waters again.

At the moment, HMCS Victoria is based at Esquimalt, British Columbia on Canada’s west coast, with a target date to re-enter active duty in 2009. The other 3 submarines, including the currently-serving HMCS Corner Brook, are based/drydocked in Halifax, Nova Scotia. The rising importance of the Pacific Rim is causing calls for 2 submarines to be based at CFB Esquimalt, but this is not yet reflected in Navy plans.

Independent-minded Canadian MP Bill Casey of Nova Scotia [Cons – Cumberland Colchester Musquodoboit Valley] is known as the Canadian Parliament’s foremost authority on the Victoria Class submarines, and his investigations began long before the HMCS Chicoutimi incident. He blasted the contract award, noting that HMCS Victoria experienced problems transiting the Panama Canal because the class is not designed to operate in warm waters, and lacks adequate cooling. Barring a sharp speed-up of ice melting that clears the Northwest Passage sooner than expected, or the use of Russia’s Northern Sea Route, a deficiency of that kind would make shuttling the subs between the maintenance yard in British Columbia and their base in Nova Scotia a difficult exercise at best.

On the contractor end, one of the rival groups was led by BAE Systems (Canada) Ltd., and included the politically-connected east coast shipping giant Irving Shipbuilding, whose share of the work has been estimated at 50% if their consortium had won. Irving company Fleetway, Inc. was the 3rd member of this consortium.

Irving Shipbuilding is doing more than just protest, though they are making a public case about the costs to the taxpayer of shuttling the subs from the Atlantic to the Pacific for maintenance. The firm also says that it intends to file a lawsuit. VP Kevin Hudson called the award a “travesty,” and said that “We are proceeding with our court action and believe our case is very strong.” The firm has already been involved in 2 court actions over this contract.

Other Irving spokespeople called on the government to re-bid the contract.

Irving spokespeople point out that CSMG partner Weir Canada Inc. drew up initial plans for the contract’s statement of work and evaluation criteria, and cite that as “a grave conflict of interest and use of insider knowledge.” The company added that the winning bid failed to meet the necessary requirements, and the total estimated value of the contract’s scope of work was not included in the price evaluation.

For its part, Canada’s Navy is unwilling to re-bid, given delays to date and the needs of its submarine fleet. One “senior defence source” put it bluntly to CP: “Going back out to tender and getting it totally put to bed means three years. We can’t afford that.”

Updates and Related News

June 17/08: After the HMCS Chicoutimi’s fire in October 2004, many of the submarine’s 55-member crew had to breathe in the smoke and live in the ash for days as a mater of course, as they struggled to save and return their stricken submarine. Since that date, some of the crew members have reported breathing troubles and variety of neurological disorders. claims to Veteran’s Affairs have been held up, or even rejected due to lack of information.

A report covering exactly what the sailors were exposed to was expected in the 2005 board of inquiry, but the tests were not completed until just recently. The Canadian Press news service reports that a briefing on the subject is scheduled for June 18/08 in Halifax, involving Canadian vice-admiral Drew Robertson.

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#49 Mensagem por P44 » Ter Jun 24, 2008 4:13 pm

^Continuação da SAGA...Canadá SEM UM ÚNICO SUB OPERACIONAL!!!!

Ten years after buying four Victoria-class (Upholder) diesel-electric submarines from the UK, the Canadian Navy is again without an operational underwater unit.

Two boats, HMCS Victoria and HMCS Windsor, are undergoing extended docking work periods, which are taking longer than anticipated and will not be completed until late 2009.

The oldest of the quartet, HMCS Chicoutimi, is also in dry dock, awaiting repairs after a fire during its transatlantic crossing in 2004. The repairs are scheduled for 2010 and will not be finished before 2012.

HMCS Corner Brook is due to complete a work period in the third quarter of 2008, when it will be the navy's sole operational submarine for the next year and a half.

This is far below Ottawa's expectations when the acquisition of the 2,455-ton Type 2400 submarines was announced in April 1998. At that time, the cost was put at CAD750 million (USD734 million), although by 2003 the figure had risen to CAD897 million.

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#50 Mensagem por P44 » Qui Jan 28, 2010 9:13 am

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Canadian navy to modernize ships without U.S. equipment

The goal is to accelerate frigate upgrades by avoiding American export controls

By David Pugliese, Canwest News Service January 24, 2010

Faced with delays and restrictions about what it can and cannot do with U.S. technology, Canada’s navy has decided to modernize its frigates using as much non-American equipment as possible for key systems on the ships.

The Defence Department had stipulated that the command and control systems on the multi-billion-dollar frigate upgrade be free of U.S. regulations, said officials with Lockheed Martin Canada in Ottawa, the company handling the contract.

In the past, the U.S. government’s strict enforcement of technology restrictions under International Traffic in Arms Regulations has delayed the delivery of military equipment to Canada.

In addition, in 2006 U.S. government officials tried unsuccessfully to limit the type of Canadians who could work on Canadian defence programs, specifically requesting that those who were born in certain countries or who had dual citizenship with particular countries not be allowed access to American technology.

Such restrictions violate Canadian law. As a result, key radars, sensors and software to be installed on the Halifax-class frigates are coming from Canada, Sweden, Israel, Germany, and the Netherlands.

“It was a desire [by the customer],” Don McClure, Lockheed Martin Canada’s vice-president of business development, said of the decision to use technology that wasn’t controlled by ITAR.

“The primary thing is during the life of a warship there is the need to modify certain tactics or add certain sensors and the navy didn’t want to be restricted to having to ask permission [from the U.S.] for that.”

McClure said the command and control system the firm is developing in conjunction with Saab Electronics Systems of Sweden will be free of any U.S. export controls.

That will also allow the Ottawa company to market the system to other navies without having to seek U.S. permission.

Some of the weapons on the Canadian frigates use U.S.-technology and there are other American-made components that aren’t covered by ITAR on the vessels.

McClure said the frigate modernization is on track, with the first ship expected to be worked on starting in the fall.

The Defence Department is spending a total of $3.1 billion on the program, which not only includes the work being done by Lockheed Martin Canada and its partners but mid-life improvements to mechanical systems on the vessels to be done by Victoria Shipyards and on the East Coast.

The modernization of all 12 frigates will be finished by 2017.

Defence Department spokeswoman Jocelyn Sweet said in an e-mail that the department did not specify that the materials and work associated with the mid-life maintenance of the frigates be free from U.S. ITAR.

But she added: “DND did require that any proposals related to the integrated combat system address how the contractor would mitigate any risk to the delivery schedule if they included sourcing of material or services from the U.S. that would invoke ITAR restrictions.”

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#51 Mensagem por P44 » Seg Out 04, 2010 5:38 pm

Work Begins on the Halifax-Class Frigates


(Source: Canadian Department of National Defence; issued October 1, 2010)



HALIFAX, N. S. –-- Today, the Honourable Peter MacKay, Minister of National Defence, announced that refit and modernization of HMCS Halifax has begun under the Halifax-Class Modernization (HCM)/Frigate Life Extension (FELEX) project. HMCS Halifax is the first frigate to undergo modernization and refit through the HCM/FELEX project.

“This Government is giving the Navy the robust and modern equipment they need to do what is asked of them,” said Minister MacKay. “Canada’s Halifax-Class frigates form the backbone of the Canadian Navy and I find it fitting that this modernization work to extend the life of these ships, is announced during the Navy’s Centennial year.”

The Department of National Defence’s C$549 million contract with Halifax Shipyards Inc. for the HCM/FELEX project represents work for approximately 250 people in the maritime industry in the Halifax Regional Municipality.

The modernization of Canada’s fleet of 12 Halifax-Class frigates includes a new command and control system, new radar capability, a new electronic warfare system and upgraded communications and missiles. Under the HCM/FELEX project the frigates will also undergo a mid-life refit to ensure they remain effective to the projected end of their service life. The HCM/FELEX project represents the Government of Canada’s commitment to the Equipment pillar of the Canada First Defence Strategy.

In April 2008, the Government of Canada awarded contracts for the multi-ship refit on Canada’s east and west coasts: to Victoria Shipyards in British Columbia and to Halifax Shipyards in Nova Scotia. The first of the west coast frigates is scheduled to enter modernization and refit at Victoria Shipyards in mid-2011. (ends)


BACKGROUNDER: Halifax-Class Modernization and Life Extension


(Source: Canadian Department of National Defence; issued October 1, 2010)



The Canadian Forces’ 12 Halifax-Class frigates, commissioned between 1992 and 1995, form the backbone of the Navy. These multi-purpose ships were primarily designed to accomplish the Cold War missions of anti-submarine warfare (ASW) and anti-surface warfare (ASUW), mainly in the open-ocean environment.

In the years following the end of the Cold War, the roles of the Halifax-Class have changed. Current and evolving threats are faster, more manoeuvrable, and are moving from open ocean areas to areas closer to the coast. The close-to-shore environment poses challenges to sensors and weapons systems due to higher traffic density and proximity to shore-based threats. In addition, ships now face asymmetrical threats, such as terrorist attacks, that had not been envisaged when they were designed.

Innovations in procedures and tactics have enabled the frigates to operate effectively in the new threat environment. However, sensor and weapons enhancements are needed in order to enhance the ships’ ability to deal with these new threats into the future.

The Halifax-Class Modernization (HCM)/Frigate Life Extension (FELEX) project will manage both the modernization of the combat systems and a planned mid-life ship refit program to ensure the frigates remain effective to the projected end of their service life. This work will encompass modernization of the ships, including systems upgrades, acquisition and installation of new capabilities, such as enhanced radar, changes to the platform needed to accommodate the new capabilities, and integration of all aspects of frigate operations into an upgraded command and control system.

The HCM/FELEX project and similar projects within the Halifax-Class Modernization program will bring enhanced capabilities to the ships, which are required to meet the new threats and changing operating environments. These include:
-- A new command and control system;
-- New radar suite;
-- IFF Mode S/5 – Interrogator Friend or Foe Mode S/5;
-- Internal communications system upgrade;
-- Harpoon missile system upgrade (surface to surface); and
-- Electronic support measures upgrade.

Other HCM projects include:
-- Long-range infrared search and track system (SIRIUS); and
-- Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile (surface to air) ESSM.
-- Related maintenance and sustainment activities and projects will strive to maintain equipment at its current level of capability. These include:
* Preventive, corrective and unique mid-life maintenance activities:
* Modifications to the BOFORS 57mm naval gun;
* Replacement of the Shield II Missile Decoy Countermeasures System;
* Replacement of the integrated machinery control system; and
* Replacement of the navigation radar.

Planning, preparation and coordination of the modernization began in 2005. Modernization and refit of the frigates began in September 2010, with the final ship estimated for completion in 2017.

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#52 Mensagem por irlan » Seg Out 04, 2010 5:50 pm

Afinal de contar oque a marinha canadense tem disponivel hoje?




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#53 Mensagem por P44 » Seg Out 04, 2010 5:53 pm

irlan escreveu:Afinal de contar oque a marinha canadense tem disponivel hoje?

Current ships

Halifax-class multi-role patrol frigates

* HMCS Halifax (FFH 330)
* HMCS Vancouver (FFH 331)
* HMCS Ville de Québec (FFH 332)
* HMCS Toronto (FFH 333)
* HMCS Regina (FFH 334)
* HMCS Calgary (FFH 335)
* HMCS Montréal (FFH 336)
* HMCS Fredericton (FFH 337)
* HMCS Winnipeg (FFH 338)
* HMCS Charlottetown (FFH 339)
* HMCS St. John's (FFH 340)
* HMCS Ottawa (FFH 341)

Victoria-class long-range patrol submarines

* HMCS Victoria (SSK 876)
* HMCS Windsor (SSK 877)
* HMCS Corner Brook (SSK 878)
* HMCS Chicoutimi (SSK 879)

Iroquois-class area air defense destroyers

* HMCS Iroquois (DDH 280)
* HMCS Athabaskan (DDH 282)
* HMCS Algonquin (DDG 283)

Protecteur-class auxiliary oil replenishment

* HMCS Protecteur (AOR 509)
* HMCS Preserver (AOR 510)

Kingston-class coastal defense vessels

* HMCS Kingston (MM 700)
* HMCS Glace Bay (MM 701)
* HMCS Nanaimo (MM 702)
* HMCS Edmonton (MM 703)
* HMCS Shawinigan (MM 704)
* HMCS Whitehorse (MM 705)
* HMCS Yellowknife (MM 706)
* HMCS Goose Bay (MM 707)
* HMCS Moncton (MM 708)
* HMCS Saskatoon (MM 709)
* HMCS Brandon (MM 710)
* HMCS Summerside (MM 711)
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#54 Mensagem por irlan » Seg Out 04, 2010 8:55 pm

Ativos?, 100%?




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#55 Mensagem por WalterGaudério » Seg Out 04, 2010 9:43 pm

irlan escreveu:Ativos?, 100%?
Estão sem submarinos convencionais operativos. O que eles deveriam ter feito no fim dos anos oitenta era ter comprado uma versão dos TR 1700 oferecida pela Thyssen Nordseewerke GmBh. Economia de otário comprar um eq2uipamento que todos sabiam a época não estava sendo bem mantido pelos ingleses.




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#56 Mensagem por P44 » Qui Out 07, 2010 6:04 am

Esses subs (UpHolder) chegaram a ser oferecidos a Portugal :mrgreen:

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do que nós nos safámos

mas de resto, tirando os problemas com os subs, penso que toda a frota de superficie se encontra operacional.




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#57 Mensagem por pafuncio » Qui Out 07, 2010 11:17 am

Se pararmos para pensar, 12 fragatas bem efetivas, entregues no intervalo de 03 anos, em um país com menos de 30 milhões de habitantes.

Sempre gostei das Halifaxes, lembro-me de ter ficado bem impressionado com seus esboços, quando as vi pela primeira vez, no final dos oitenta, começo dos noventa: Bofors 57 mm, vls, baita hangar, aparentemente barcos robustos ...




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Re: Marinha do Canadá

#58 Mensagem por J.Ricardo » Qui Out 07, 2010 4:51 pm

O que acho mais interessante nas FA do Canadá é o modelo que eles utilizam, lá não existem organizações separadas para as 03 forças, é tudo uma coisa só, mas divididas em 03 comandos, com isso economizam muito administrativamente.




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Que apresentam face hostil,
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Re: Marinha do Canadá

#59 Mensagem por P44 » Ter Out 12, 2010 11:42 am

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Re: Marinha do Canadá

#60 Mensagem por WalterGaudério » Ter Nov 30, 2010 5:58 pm

P44 escreveu:A interminável SAGA dos Ex-UPHOLDER (do que nós nos livrámos....!!!!!)

Sub Fleet Creating Canadian Controversies

Canada’s aging fleet of Oberon class submarines had become simply too old to put in the water. In July 2000, their de facto retirement became official. The question was: what, if anything, would replace them? With long coastlines, and a significant portion of its iced-in northern seas used as running grounds for foreign submarines, it was felt that giving up submarine capability was not a viable option for the country’s sovereignty.

Unfortunately, the country’s purchase of second-hand diesel-electric Upholder Class submarines from Britain ran into controversy al
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O Canadá não tem extamewnte uma força de submarinos, tem uma Força de Problemas.




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