Governo autoriza US$ 52,000,000.00 para Compra do A-Darter

Assuntos em discussão: Força Aérea Brasileira, forças aéreas estrangeiras e aviação militar.

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#391 Mensagem por Sideshow » Qua Jan 03, 2007 11:29 am

SA ties up missile deal with Brazil for Denel, Armscor

A government-to-government agreement between SA and Brazil has been signed for a joint venture between Armscor, Denel and the Brazilian air force for the development of missiles.

The Brazilians have committed $52m to the project, which will be led by Denel in collaboration with its Brazilian counterparts, Denel spokesman Sam Basch said at the weekend.

In total, the project has been estimated to be worth about R300m. In terms of the agreement, Denel will develop its A-Darter short-range air-to-air missile from a prototype to an operational system.

Denel has already invested considerable sums in developing the missile prototype but has been constrained by a lack of funding to take it to the next stage.

Basch said the agreement, signed a week ago, was a further step in intensifying missile co-operation between Denel and the Brazilians, who opted for Denel as its partner because of Denel`s proven capability in the missile field.

Basch said Denel hoped that other projects would flow from the missile agreement. He said Brazil, for example, would in future require attack helicopters and could be interested in Denel`s Rooivalk.

Meanwhile, the finalisation of the Turkish government tender for attack helicopters has been postponed for the third time — this time until next month.

Denel is competing against the deal`s other preferred bidder, Agusta Aerospace of Italy, for the estimated $2bn tender. Basch said no reasons were given by the Turkish government for the delay in reaching a decision, though he added that Turkey was known for taking a long time to finalise such matters.

Two rival bids, from French Eurocopter Tiger and Russian Kamov KA50-2, were eliminated in the tender. Basch stressed that the delay had no financial or other implications for Denel as the contract had not been built into its budget or its restructuring programme, which is aimed at turning the loss-making arms manufacturer around to profit.

Winning the Turkish contract will ensure the survival of the Rooivalk, which has been sold only to the South African Air Force, which bought 12 helicopters in 1999. Since then Denel has not been successful in finding other buyers for the Rooivalk.

Denel made a fifth successive loss in sits financial year to end March.

3 January 2007: Business Day




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#392 Mensagem por WalterGaudério » Qua Jan 03, 2007 1:24 pm

Sideshow escreveu:
SA ties up missile deal with Brazil for Denel, Armscor

A government-to-government agreement between SA and Brazil has been signed for a joint venture between Armscor, Denel and the Brazilian air force for the development of missiles.

The Brazilians have committed $52m to the project, which will be led by Denel in collaboration with its Brazilian counterparts, Denel spokesman Sam Basch said at the weekend.

In total, the project has been estimated to be worth about R300m. In terms of the agreement, Denel will develop its A-Darter short-range air-to-air missile from a prototype to an operational system.

Denel has already invested considerable sums in developing the missile prototype but has been constrained by a lack of funding to take it to the next stage.

Basch said the agreement, signed a week ago, was a further step in intensifying missile co-operation between Denel and the Brazilians, who opted for Denel as its partner because of Denel`s proven capability in the missile field.

Basch said Denel hoped that other projects would flow from the missile agreement. He said Brazil, for example, would in future require attack helicopters and could be interested in Denel`s Rooivalk.

Meanwhile, the finalisation of the Turkish government tender for attack helicopters has been postponed for the third time — this time until next month.

Denel is competing against the deal`s other preferred bidder, Agusta Aerospace of Italy, for the estimated $2bn tender. Basch said no reasons were given by the Turkish government for the delay in reaching a decision, though he added that Turkey was known for taking a long time to finalise such matters.

Two rival bids, from French Eurocopter Tiger and Russian Kamov KA50-2, were eliminated in the tender. Basch stressed that the delay had no financial or other implications for Denel as the contract had not been built into its budget or its restructuring programme, which is aimed at turning the loss-making arms manufacturer around to profit.

Winning the Turkish contract will ensure the survival of the Rooivalk, which has been sold only to the South African Air Force, which bought 12 helicopters in 1999. Since then Denel has not been successful in finding other buyers for the Rooivalk.

Denel made a fifth successive loss in sits financial year to end March.

3 January 2007: Business Day


Se a FAB realmente descartar os Super Puma de seu inventário, então tchau Rooivalk.

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#393 Mensagem por WalterGaudério » Qua Jan 03, 2007 1:25 pm

Sideshow escreveu:
SA ties up missile deal with Brazil for Denel, Armscor

A government-to-government agreement between SA and Brazil has been signed for a joint venture between Armscor, Denel and the Brazilian air force for the development of missiles.

The Brazilians have committed $52m to the project, which will be led by Denel in collaboration with its Brazilian counterparts, Denel spokesman Sam Basch said at the weekend.

In total, the project has been estimated to be worth about R300m. In terms of the agreement, Denel will develop its A-Darter short-range air-to-air missile from a prototype to an operational system.

Denel has already invested considerable sums in developing the missile prototype but has been constrained by a lack of funding to take it to the next stage.

Basch said the agreement, signed a week ago, was a further step in intensifying missile co-operation between Denel and the Brazilians, who opted for Denel as its partner because of Denel`s proven capability in the missile field.

Basch said Denel hoped that other projects would flow from the missile agreement. He said Brazil, for example, would in future require attack helicopters and could be interested in Denel`s Rooivalk.

Meanwhile, the finalisation of the Turkish government tender for attack helicopters has been postponed for the third time — this time until next month.

Denel is competing against the deal`s other preferred bidder, Agusta Aerospace of Italy, for the estimated $2bn tender. Basch said no reasons were given by the Turkish government for the delay in reaching a decision, though he added that Turkey was known for taking a long time to finalise such matters.

Two rival bids, from French Eurocopter Tiger and Russian Kamov KA50-2, were eliminated in the tender. Basch stressed that the delay had no financial or other implications for Denel as the contract had not been built into its budget or its restructuring programme, which is aimed at turning the loss-making arms manufacturer around to profit.

Winning the Turkish contract will ensure the survival of the Rooivalk, which has been sold only to the South African Air Force, which bought 12 helicopters in 1999. Since then Denel has not been successful in finding other buyers for the Rooivalk.

Denel made a fifth successive loss in sits financial year to end March.

3 January 2007: Business Day


Se a FAB realmente descartar os Super Puma de seu inventário, então tchau Rooivalk.

Walter




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#394 Mensagem por A-29 » Qui Mai 10, 2007 4:41 pm

Uma notícia de hoje do DID, requentando o tema:

South Africa, Brazil to Develop A-Darter SRAAM
Posted 10-May-2007 07:14
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A-Darter
(click to view larger)Denel Pty Ltd. missile/UAV subsidiary Denel Dynamics, a subsidiary of Denel (Pty) Ltd. now has a joint development agreement with Brazil's Ministry of Defence and Forca Aerea Brasileira for the A-Darter missile, signed via South Africa's Armscor as a government to government agreement. The original contract was apparently signed in July-August 2006, but the formal cooperation launch was announced at the April 2007 Latin American Aerospace and Defence exhibition in Brazil.

With the SRAAM export market already crowded by high-end products like the AA-11 Archer (Russia), AIM-9M/X Sidewinder (USA), ASRAAM (UK), Iris-T (Germany & European), and Python 4/5 (Israel), one may legitimately wonder what this development deal will involve, and where the Agile-Darter will fit in terms of capabilities, design philosophy, and market positioning...


A-Darter concept cutaway
(click to view full)The A-Darter missile is expected to be a 5th generation weapon, with a number of important capabilities and design decisions similar to ASRAAM. It will use modern thermal imaging technology with a wide "boresight angle" for targeting, work with a helmet-mounted sight to maximize the usefulness of that "high off-boresight" capability. A-Darter uses a use a very streamlined design to maximize range. To take maximum advantage of that design decision, lock-on after launch capability will allow it to fly to an area specified by the launching aircraft by using an inertial navigation system from BAE Systems, before acquiring the target with its seeker head. There is no word, however, on whether the missile's datalink is intended to allow for updates in flight, in order to prevent the wrong target from being engaged once it reaches the end of its inertial navigation.

Denel says that "Current contracts exceed R1 billion [currently about $145 million] in total and future export contracts are expected to add another R2 billion over this fifteen-year period."

In such a crowded SRAAM market, where integration of a non-standard weapon can be a difficult and expensive endeavor, a new missile can be a difficult sell. A clue to its positioning may be provided by the statement of Denel's spokesperson Joe Makhafola:

"The co-development of the missile... not only brings much-needed skills, training and technology transfer to the country, but reinforces the South-South co-operation initiated by President Thabo Mbeki and his counterpart."

This is certainly an explanation of the industrial strategy involved, which seeks to boost the indigenous aerospace industries in both countries. It may also be a lead-in to the missile's marketing in many 3rd world countries, as a no strings, so-called non-aligned weapon. Whether this marketing approach will be successful remains to be seen. First, of course, the missile development itself must succeed.


FAB's F-5
(click to view full)The A-Darter is slated to equip South Africa's JAS-39 C/D Gripens, and will replace the indigenous Mectron MAA-1 Piranha missile in Brazil. Brazil's upgraded F-5M Tiger IIs are an agreed-upon platform; the A-4 Skyhawks that fly from the Brazilian Carrier Sao Paulo (formerly FMS Foch) and carry AIM-9H Sidewinder missile are also a candidate platform. Brazil's other SRAAM-capable aircraft include the FAB's Italo-Brazilian AMX light attack aircraft and indigenous EMB-314 Super Tucanos. Cooperation with Elbit of Israel will give the F-5M, AMX, and EMB-314 aircraft a very similar set of avionics, which is likely to make common missile integration easier; Israel's Derby 4 missile is already slated for integration as the FAB's radar-guided counterpart on the F-5Ms. The country's new squadron of refurbished Mirage 2000 fighters from France may prove more difficult to modify.

While a certain amount of development has already been completed by Denel, Brazil's FAB gives an expected in-service date of 2015. There are estimates that Brazil's 50% share of the remaining development costs could rise to over $100 million before the missile is complete. At present, $52 million is allocated.

Denel says that it expects to employ at least 200 engineers over the duration of the contract, and hopes to use the program to attract young engineers to the company. while this is an excellent long-term strategy, it would have development implications if implemented. Meanwhile, 10 Brazilian air force members have begun work on the program at the Denel Dynamics plant, to be joined by another 20 people from "the Brazilian defence companies." The FAB's Aerospace Technical Centre (CTA) will assemble the Brazilian industrial end of the deal; rumored firms include Metcon, Avibras, and Atech.




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#395 Mensagem por Carlos Lima » Qui Mai 17, 2007 3:06 pm

Olha aí a LAD 2007 rendendo algo :wink:


http://www.defesanet.com.br/zz/fab_a-darter.htm

Defesanet 17 Maio 2007
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Denel Firma Acordo de Mísseis com o Brasil - A-Darter
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Denel Dynamics, uma subsidiaria da Denel (Pty) Ltd, lançou o Programa de Desenvolvimento da última geração do míssil ar-ar A-Darter que será realizado conjuntamente pela South African National Defence Force e a Força Aérea Brasileira.

Denel Dynamics é a divisão responsável pelo desenvolvimento de mísseis e veículos aéreo não tripulados da sul-africana Denel.

O acordo foi concluído durante a Latin American Aerospace and Defence (LAAD 2007), que encerrou no dia 20 Abril 2007, no Rio de Janeiro, Brasil.

O desenvolvimento conjunto do míssil entre a África do Sul e o Brasil não somente trará ao país as necessárias capacidades, muito necessárias: treinamento e transferência de tecnologia ao país, mas também reforça a cooperação Sul-Sul iniciada pelos Presidentes Mbeki e Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.

Cerca de 10 membros da Força Aérea Brasileira estão trabalhando nas instalações da Denel Dynamics no Programa A-Darter, e serão complementados por cerca de 20 outras pessoas de empresas de defesa brasileiras.

O míssil A-Darter é de vital importância ao cluster aeronáutico sul-africano e para equipar os aviões de ambas as Forças Aéreas.

O míssil A-Darter propiciará uma capacidade de ação defensiva para a South African Air Force (SAAF), e manterá e expandirá as capacidades locais no campo de mísseis para os próximos quinze anos.

O atual contrato ultrapassa R1 bilhão de rands, cerca de U$ 150 milhões de dólares, são projetados outros R2 bilhões, cerca de 300 milhões de dólares, com exportações, ajudando assim a sustentabilidade e viabilidade da Divisão Denel Dynamics da Denel (Pty) Ltd.

Uma das macro estratégias é garantir o acesso privilegiado e garantir uma porção mínima das atividades ao complexo de industrial de defesa, assim como um investimento de aquisição na África do Sul, e para esse fim o contrato terá um efeito spin-off positivo para as empresas locais de defesa.

Cerca de 200 engenheiros serão necessários durante o período do contrato. Já há sinais de que jovens engenheiros estão sendo atraídos para a Denel, especificamente para trabalharem em projetos de tecnologia avançada como o do Míssil A-Darter.

Em nome da South African National Defence Force, um contrato foi assinado pela Armscor para o desenvolvimento do míssil.


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Fonte: Defesanet

Interessante que já tem engenheiros nossos trabalhando por lá! :D


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#398 Mensagem por Beronha » Sex Mai 18, 2007 7:44 pm

Nossa , a 1a. vez que vejo comemoração por um "projeto" da FAB no DB (tá certo que sou recruta por aqui):P :P

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#399 Mensagem por orestespf » Sáb Mai 19, 2007 12:06 am

Beronha escreveu:Nossa , a 1a. vez que vejo comemoração por um "projeto" da FAB no DB (tá certo que sou recruta por aqui):P :P

Se não estragar na capação tá bom demais...


Vira essa boca desdentada pra lá! rsrsrs

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#400 Mensagem por Bolovo » Sáb Mai 19, 2007 12:18 am

Só comemoro no dia que ver o A-Darter voando nos aviões da FAB. 8-]




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#401 Mensagem por Beronha » Sáb Mai 19, 2007 12:27 am

orestespf escreveu:
Beronha escreveu:Nossa , a 1a. vez que vejo comemoração por um "projeto" da FAB no DB (tá certo que sou recruta por aqui):P :P

Se não estragar na capação tá bom demais...


Vira essa boca desdentada pra lá! rsrsrs

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PS: esse seu avatar.. Ainda não consegui para de rir até hoje. rsrs


Sou pior ao vivo orestes...
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#402 Mensagem por orestespf » Sáb Mai 19, 2007 1:07 am

Beronha escreveu:
orestespf escreveu:
Beronha escreveu:Nossa , a 1a. vez que vejo comemoração por um "projeto" da FAB no DB (tá certo que sou recruta por aqui):P :P

Se não estragar na capação tá bom demais...


Vira essa boca desdentada pra lá! rsrsrs

Abração,

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PS: esse seu avatar.. Ainda não consegui para de rir até hoje. rsrs


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Salve Beronha,

impossível! Com todo respeito ao cara do avatar, mas é hilário.

A forma que você participa aqui no DB o mostra de outra forma. É muito positivo e maduro, mas ao mesmo tempo divertido.

Não fique bravo comigo, mas adoro o sorriso largo do seu avatar! rsrs É a mais pura alegria transbordando pelos lábios. hehehehe

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#403 Mensagem por orestespf » Sáb Mai 19, 2007 1:09 am

Bolovo escreveu:Só comemoro no dia que ver o A-Darter voando nos aviões da FAB. 8-]


Olá Marechal RUSSOVSKI,

já tá na hora de trocar o galináceo do avatar! rsrs Alguma coisa não confere mais, para minha tristeza pessoal... rsrsrs

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orestespf escreveu:
Bolovo escreveu:Só comemoro no dia que ver o A-Darter voando nos aviões da FAB. 8-]


Olá Marechal RUSSOVSKI,

já tá na hora de trocar o galináceo do avatar! rsrs Alguma coisa não confere mais, para minha tristeza pessoal... rsrsrs

Grande abraço,

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#405 Mensagem por Beronha » Sáb Mai 19, 2007 1:21 am

Bolovo escreveu:
orestespf escreveu:
Bolovo escreveu:Só comemoro no dia que ver o A-Darter voando nos aviões da FAB. 8-]


Olá Marechal RUSSOVSKI,

já tá na hora de trocar o galináceo do avatar! rsrs Alguma coisa não confere mais, para minha tristeza pessoal... rsrsrs

Grande abraço,

Orestes

Sério?! Hahaha... então logo logo mudo! Mas não sei o que coloco... :shock: :D :D


Coloca uma águia bolovo.




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