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Re: Rafale News

Enviado: Qui Abr 16, 2009 12:55 pm
por Bourne
FIGHTERCOM escreveu:
Sintra escreveu: :shock:

Prick, deixe de fumar coisas engraçadas, então a Reuters e a AFP (Agence France Presse) fazem parte da "máfia mediática Anglo-Saxã"?!!!
Foram eles que noticiaram isto em primeira mão...
Isso é o desespero, faz as pessoas meterem os pés pelas mãos. Tentar justificar o injustificável dá nisso...

Abraços,

Wesley

Os franceses não são doidos assim, tá. :wink:

Re: Rafale News

Enviado: Qui Abr 16, 2009 12:57 pm
por FIGHTERCOM
Bourne escreveu: Os franceses não são doidos assim, tá. :wink:
:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

Não falei de franceses...

Abraços,

Wesley

Re: Rafale News

Enviado: Qui Abr 16, 2009 1:00 pm
por Bourne
FIGHTERCOM escreveu:
Bourne escreveu: Os franceses não são doidos assim, tá. :wink:
:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

Não falei de franceses...

Abraços,

Wesley
Me referi a máfia anglo-saxã do PRcki :wink:

Re: Rafale News

Enviado: Qui Abr 16, 2009 1:21 pm
por Sintra
Bourne escreveu:
Wolfgang escreveu:Olha, PRick, a maravilha francesa... Perdeu, playboy! :mrgreen:


Nossa, o Super Lixo ainda está no páreo... o F-16 IN mega-ultrapassado atingiu os requerimentos e o Rafale não? Quer dizer que o Tiffie sabidamente mais caro que o Rafa continuou? Então o problema não o valor.... :twisted: Não sendo o valor, será que foi requisito técnico? Ué, mas se o Viper ficou quer dizer que ele cumpriu os requisitos, né? Poxa, será que um Viper IN pode ser melhor que um Rafale.... :twisted: :mrgreen:
E o pequeno Gripen continua? Jesus.... :mrgreen:
E o MiG-35? No páreo!
Algo muito, mas muito ruim no Rafale....
Perrrrrrdeu playboy :twisted:

Pelo jeito, verei os Rafales voando ao vivo são quando for a Paris. :lol:
Vamos com calma, como o Soul disse, isto ainda pode dar uma volta. Até termos uma confirmação da Dassault e/ou do Ministério da Defesa Indiano nada está garantido.
Como se diz cá no burgo, "até ao lavar dos cestos é vindima".

Re: Rafale News

Enviado: Qui Abr 16, 2009 1:22 pm
por AlbertoRJ
O Gripen não tinha sido "eliminado" do concurso também?

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Re: Rafale News

Enviado: Qui Abr 16, 2009 1:50 pm
por PRick
Sintra escreveu:
PRick escreveu:
A máfia midiática anglo-saxã continua atacando,
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:shock:

Prick, deixe de fumar coisas engraçadas, então a Reuters e a AFP (Agence France Presse) fazem parte da "máfia mediática Anglo-Saxã"?!!!
Foram eles que noticiaram isto em primeira mão...
E depois vão noticiar que não era verdade, afinal, nos dois casos vão vender a matéria, quem vive de vender notícias, geralmente, rebatidas da mídia local, porque não tem gente para fazer para fazer isso direto na fonte, fica assim, a reboque dos fakes alheios.

O mesmo vale quando rebatem notícias de nossa mídia, ela é monolítica, partidária e tem credibilidade baixa.

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Re: Rafale News

Enviado: Qui Abr 16, 2009 1:56 pm
por PRick
Sintra escreveu:Entretanto
Dassault says no word on Indian fighter tender

PARIS, April 16 (Reuters) - Dassault Aviation said on Thursday it had not been informed of any decision to eliminate its Rafale warplane from a potential major Indian arms deal and said France was seeking clarification.

An Indian defence ministry spokesman said earlier the French aircraft maker was out of the running in a tender for a $10 billion contract to supply India with 126 multi-role fighter jets because it had not met unspecified requirements.

"So far Rafale International has received no information from official Indian sources on this matter," a Dassault spokesman said.

"French officials are inquiring with Indian authorities in order to get additional information about it," he added.
full:
http://in.reuters.com/article/govern...IN421220090416
Essa é a manobra habitual, depois de espalhar o boato, e ele ter cumprido seu objetivo, aparece o desmentido, nunca é de forma cabal, porque aí a mentira ficaria clara. Vai pela tangente, de forma obliqua. São um bando, por sinal, fazem mesmo uma dupla que se merecem, vendedores de armas e mídia, é a cobra e o escorpião juntos!(falo isso das empresas).

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Re: Rafale News

Enviado: Qui Abr 16, 2009 2:03 pm
por Penguin
Acho que é importante cautela, mas a notícia se espalha...
Em breve teremos esclarecimentos.

French Rafael knocked off $ 10 billion race for IAF fighter
Indianexpress.com

Posted: Thursday , Apr 16, 2009 at 1803 hrs IST Related ArticlesMost Read Articles

New Delhi: In a shocker, the French Rafael fighter has been knocked off a $ 10 billion contract to provide 126 combat aircraft for the Indian Air Force. The French fighter, which was one of the six contenders for the race, was officially rejected by the Defence Ministry for failing to meet qualitative requirements for the contract.

The news comes as a bit of a shock as the Indian Air Force has been maintaining that all six contenders – the American F 18 and F 16, the Eurofighter Typhoon, Russian MiG 35, Swedish Gripen NG and the French fighter – had met the technical requirements.

However, a senior defence ministry official made is clear on Thursday that Rafael has been rejected at the technical evaluation stage for failing to meet minimum performance requirements that had been detailed in the tender document. The flight trials for the remaining five fighters are now expected to commence within three months, a senior MoD official said.

They did not meet the requirements and will not proceed to the next stage. We hope to begin trials within three months with the others that have qualified,” a top Defence Ministry official said.

While the French fighter was always considered an underdog in the competition, which has been described as the largest international defence contract in the world, it was been aggressively pushed by the French government. Former President Jacques Chirac and his successor Nichols Sarkozy have been talking about the fighter in all their interactions with India.

Re: Rafale News

Enviado: Qui Abr 16, 2009 2:23 pm
por Adriano
Santiago escreveu:Acho que é importante cautela, mas a notícia se espalha...
Em breve teremos esclarecimentos.

French Rafael knocked off $ 10 billion race for IAF fighter
Indianexpress.com

Posted: Thursday , Apr 16, 2009 at 1803 hrs IST Related ArticlesMost Read Articles

New Delhi: In a shocker, the French Rafael fighter has been knocked off a $ 10 billion contract to provide 126 combat aircraft for the Indian Air Force. The French fighter, which was one of the six contenders for the race, was officially rejected by the Defence Ministry for failing to meet qualitative requirements for the contract.

The news comes as a bit of a shock as the Indian Air Force has been maintaining that all six contenders – the American F 18 and F 16, the Eurofighter Typhoon, Russian MiG 35, Swedish Gripen NG and the French fighter – had met the technical requirements.

However, a senior defence ministry official made is clear on Thursday that Rafael has been rejected at the technical evaluation stage for failing to meet minimum performance requirements that had been detailed in the tender document. The flight trials for the remaining five fighters are now expected to commence within three months, a senior MoD official said.

“They did not meet the requirements and will not proceed to the next stage. We hope to begin trials within three months with the others that have qualified,” a top Defence Ministry official said.

While the French fighter was always considered an underdog in the competition, which has been described as the largest international defence contract in the world, it was been aggressively pushed by the French government. Former President Jacques Chirac and his successor Nichols Sarkozy have been talking about the fighter in all their interactions with India.

Se a notícia for confirmada, a coisa fica novamente feia para a Dassault que tem visto seu caça ser eliminado das competições, principalmente, por "não atingir critérios mínimos de desempenho"....

Veremos também quais serão as novas (ou velhas) desculpas dos foristas mais passionais. :lol:

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Adriano

Re: Rafale News

Enviado: Qui Abr 16, 2009 2:25 pm
por Carlos Mathias
por "não atingir critérios mínimos de desempenho"....
Eu não achei essa frase no texto...

Re: Rafale News

Enviado: Qui Abr 16, 2009 2:32 pm
por Adriano
Adriano escreveu:
Santiago escreveu:Acho que é importante cautela, mas a notícia se espalha...
Em breve teremos esclarecimentos.

French Rafael knocked off $ 10 billion race for IAF fighter
Indianexpress.com

Posted: Thursday , Apr 16, 2009 at 1803 hrs IST Related ArticlesMost Read Articles

New Delhi: In a shocker, the French Rafael fighter has been knocked off a $ 10 billion contract to provide 126 combat aircraft for the Indian Air Force. The French fighter, which was one of the six contenders for the race, was officially rejected by the Defence Ministry for failing to meet qualitative requirements for the contract.

The news comes as a bit of a shock as the Indian Air Force has been maintaining that all six contenders – the American F 18 and F 16, the Eurofighter Typhoon, Russian MiG 35, Swedish Gripen NG and the French fighter – had met the technical requirements.

However, a senior defence ministry official made is clear on Thursday that Rafael has been rejected at the technical evaluation stage for failing to meet minimum performance requirements that had been detailed in the tender document. The flight trials for the remaining five fighters are now expected to commence within three months, a senior MoD official said.

“They did not meet the requirements and will not proceed to the next stage. We hope to begin trials within three months with the others that have qualified,” a top Defence Ministry official said.

While the French fighter was always considered an underdog in the competition, which has been described as the largest international defence contract in the world, it was been aggressively pushed by the French government. Former President Jacques Chirac and his successor Nichols Sarkozy have been talking about the fighter in all their interactions with India.

Se a notícia for confirmada, a coisa fica novamente feia para a Dassault que tem visto seu caça ser eliminado das competições, principalmente, por "não atingir critérios mínimos de desempenho"....

Veremos também quais serão as novas (ou velhas) desculpas dos foristas mais passionais. :lol:

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Adriano
Em laranja?

Re: Rafale News

Enviado: Qui Abr 16, 2009 2:40 pm
por AlbertoRJ
Sinceramente, nessa justificativa eu não acredito.

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Re: Rafale News

Enviado: Qui Abr 16, 2009 2:43 pm
por Carlos Mathias
Ah tá, agora sim.
É rapaz, o Rafinha tá apanhando feio por aí...

Re: Rafale News

Enviado: Qui Abr 16, 2009 3:34 pm
por Carlos Lima
O problema 'e...

Nao 'e a primeira, segunda ou terceira vez que isso acontece.

Infelizmente somente muita pressao politica pelo visto garante exportacoes do Rafale...

Aviao lindo, mas...

'E aguardar para ver!

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CB_Lima

Re: Rafale News

Enviado: Qui Abr 16, 2009 3:52 pm
por Wolfgang
Carlos Mathias escreveu:Ah tá, agora sim.
É rapaz, o Rafinha tá apanhando feio por aí...

CM véio, será que voltaremos aos tempos do "pedala Rafale"? :mrgreen: