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Hader escreveu:O programa F-22 sofre uma enorme redução de encomendas por conta do fim da Guerra Fria e pelo custo pornográfico do aparelho. A única forma de manter a linha aberta é vendendo mais unidades para a USAF ou USN, daí a viagem na maionese de F-22 naval. Qual a razão disso? O F-22 possui um monte de tecnologia classificada como de segurança nacional. Isto o torna, automaticamente, impossível de ser exportado. É lei. Nem Japão e nem Israel podem receber o aparelho. E alterar esta lei é quase impossível, tendo em vista que geraria um turbilhão de debates e consultas no congresso e Suprema Corte.
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gaitero escreveu:Ao contrário da Boeing???? E seu F/A-18???

Porque a verdade sempre dói? O F/A-18 SH é um F/A-18 remodelado que foi comprado para tapar o buraco deixado pela aposentadoria dos caças navais, e pela falta de opção, de tempo e de recusros para se comprar coisa melhor.

O F/A-18 SH não passa de um caça tampão, que será substituido pelos F-35.

Quanto ao F-22 Naval, não vejo quais são as dificuldades, se não for de recursos , a qualidade do F-22 é inquestionavel.

Bolovo escreveu:Mas Sintra, é o Carlo Kopp! Temos que acreditar!

Sintra escreveu:

Bolovo escreveu:Mas Sintra, é o Carlo Kopp! Temos que acreditar!

Desta vez não foi o Koop, mas o seu "companheiro de cruzada" Peter Goon.

Aquela de os custos de "R&D" necessários para navalizar o Raptor se resumirem a 230 milhões de dólares é de gente louca...

Depois de fazerem documentos acerca de como é uma "grande ideia" a US Navy, os Marines, e a RAf adquirirem o Raptor, o próximo documento criado pela Air Power Australia vai intular-se "F-22 for the Portuguese Air Force"... É que os futuros regimentos de SU-35 (ainda não encomendados) da Força Aérea Russa vão ser estacionados em Koenigsberg (perdão, eu queria dizer Kalilinegrado) e vão ser uma ameaça terrível para a travessia do Tejo pelos "Cacilheiros" da Fertagus...


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usskelvin escreveu:Alguém duvida que F-22 acabe em mãos niponicas e judaicas?

Australian MP: US Allies Sold Short on New Fighters

24-Feb-2009 19:01 EST

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Dr. Dennis Jensen
Guest Article by Dr. Dennis Jensen, MP


The US refusal to sell the F-22 Raptor to its main allies is a matter of grave concern to many around the world and is an issue exacerbated by the possible termination of the Raptor project before it even delivers the number of aircraft demanded by the American military itself.

There seem to be no dissenting voices to the view that the Raptor is far and away the best air dominance fighter on the planet.

But key US allies – particularly Australia, Britain, Japan and, although with a very different relationship, Israel – have been told the Raptor is simply too good for them, and that they will have to be content with the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (and a hobbled export model at that, to ensure even America’s closest friends remain inferior in the skies).

Now there have been many serious concerns raised about the JSF, and specifically its ability to meet the air defence requirements of some intended client states such as Australia. Some critics suggest this aircraft will never be a match for the new Russian-origin aircraft and air defence systems already proliferating in the Asia-Pacific, and so will fail both as a deterrent and as a counter in any conflict. But even giving the JSF the benefit of the doubt, its staunchest proponents quite openly concede it will be found lacking against the Raptor.

To foist this inferior “Little Brother” of the Raptor on close long-term allies is akin to a motorcycle dealer telling a customer they can buy only a 50cc scooter.

Unfortunately, such light-hearted analogies fail to convey the gravity of the issue.

High-Maintenance F-22 Stealth Features Keeping It in the Shop
Project On Government Oversight (POGO) | Feb 24, 2009


The Project On Government Oversight (POGO) has learned from internal Pentagon sources that stealth maintenance on the F-22 fighter aircraft is the primary cause of its maintenance headaches, which are in turn undermining its mission capability. POGO believes that this may be the primary reason for Defense Department Acquisition Chief John Young’s findings that the F-22’s mission capable rate was too low to waste additional taxpayer dollars on further procurement.

One of the key justifications for the F-22 is that it will achieve air-superiority advantage by its low observability (LO), or stealth. When fully operational, LO suppresses the F-22’s visual signature, radar signature, infrared signature, electromagnetic emissions, and sound. The F-22’s LO is designed to provide improved survivability and lethality against air-to-air and surface-to-air threats.

However, sources tell POGO that LO maintenance hours accounts for over half of all maintenance time, not only significantly reducing the mission capability of the plane, but also undermining the [US Air Force’s] claim that the F-22 will “have better reliability and maintainability than any fighter aircraft in history.”

LO maintenance hours, which include time for the planes to cure, translate into time that the F-22 is not operable. As a result, there are concerns that there will be too many F-22’s unable to fly when they are needed. Air Force Chief of Staff General Norton Schwartz has stated publicly that given these stealth issues, the F-22’s mission capable rate is only 60 percent.

“At a total of $354 million per plane this new information shows the F-22 is not only the most expensive but also the most difficult fighter aircraft to maintain—and it isn’t even experiencing combat stress,” said Danielle Brian, Executive Director of the Project On Government Oversight.

“Congress and the Defense Department should recognize these dollars would be better spent on modernized F-15s or F-16s. More procurement of the F-22 isn’t smart strategically or financially.”

Congress has given the Defense Department a March 1 deadline to determine whether to buy more F-22s or to shut down the plane’s production line.

Founded in 1981, the Project On Government Oversight (POGO) is an independent nonprofit that investigates and exposes corruption in order to achieve a more accountable federal government.

P44 escreveu:Should Britain ask the United States for the F-22?

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