Tens os radares da Indra...Pelo menos o de Porto Santocabeça de martelo escreveu: ↑Qua Set 23, 2020 1:55 pmTirando os Vamtac ST5 não estou a ver mais nada. Armamento individual é Belga e Austriaco, EPI e fardamento é tudo nacional, as Fragatas estão a ser modernizadas na Holanda, os Lynx no RU, os novos helicópteros da FAP vêm dos EUA.
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Os projetos e equipamento militares mais importante das FFAAs turcas:
Uma notável evolução da indústria de defesa de um país cujo PIB é pouco mais do que a metade do Brasil.
Uma notável evolução da indústria de defesa de um país cujo PIB é pouco mais do que a metade do Brasil.
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Turkey eyes jets, engine and subs as it moves further into Russia’s orbit
By Burak Ege Bekdil
Oct 7, 04:50 PM
ANKARA, Turkey — Challenging Western sanctions, NATO ally Turkey has pledged to further its defense industry cooperation with Russia, including fighter jet and aircraft engine technologies, a second batch of S-400 air defense systems, and submarines.
The end of September saw Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan fail to mend ties with the Biden administration, instead turning eastward to strengthen defense industry cooperation.
In an interview with CBS show “Face the Nation,” Erdogan said America’s refusal to both deliver F-35 fighter jets — which Turkey agreed to purchase — and sell Patriot air defense missiles gave Turkey no choice but to turn to Russia for the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system. The acquisition was a point of contention between Turkey and NATO during the Trump administration, and that sentiment has carried over to the new administration.
“In the future, nobody will be able to interfere in terms of what kind of defense systems we acquire, from which country at what level. Nobody can interfere with that. We are the only ones to make such decisions,” Erdogan said.
Turkey was kicked out of the U.S.-led, multinational consortium that builds the F-35 Lightening II. Washington also placed sanctions on Ankara in December 2020 via the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act. The move was the first time the law was used to penalize a U.S. ally.
The chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., pointed out that sanctions were mandated by law for “any entity that does significant business with the Russian military or intelligence sectors.”
“Any new purchases by Turkey must mean new sanctions,” Menendez said on Twitter.
But Turkey remains defiant. On Sept. 26, Erdogan said his country would consider buying a second batch of S-400 systems from Russia.
“Negotiations [for the second batch] are progressing,” a senior procurement official told Defense News. “The level [of talks] is strategic and political at the moment. We have not yet reached technicalities, financing and pricing.”
Erdogan went to Sochi, Russia, on Sept. 29 for a summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin. “We had the opportunity to discuss comprehensively what steps to take in the production of plane engines, what steps to take regarding fighter jets,” Erdogan said of the meeting, adding that other measures could include building ships and submarines.
On the flight back, he told reporters that Turkey intends to seek compensation for its removal from the F-35 program, possibly during a meeting with U.S. President Joe Biden on the margins of a Group of 20 meeting in October.
“We made a $1.4 billion payment. What will become of that?” Erdogan said. “We did not — and do not — earn this money easily. Either they will give us our planes or they will give us the money.”
Turkey is running a program to co-produce, under German license, six submarines. But Erdogan said the program was not progressing at a desired pace. “We may have to look at alternatives,” he said.
The procurement official told Defense News that “Russia can be the know-how source to meet our need for engine technology.”
“And not only that; we may soon start talks to acquire Russian fighters as a stopgap solution before our indigenous fighter program matures,” the official added.
Turkey has been thriving to design, develop and build its homemade fighter, the TF-X, for the past several years. The program has been crawling despite initial predesign help from Britain’s BAE Systems under a $115 million contract.
Turkish Aerospace Industries, the prime contractor for the TF-X effort, has not yet selected an engine that will power the future jet. TAI hopes to fly the TF-X in 2025 or 2026, but industry sources say that target is too optimistic.
Suzan Frazer with The Associated Press contributed to this report from Ankara, Turkey.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/euro ... ias-orbit/
By Burak Ege Bekdil
Oct 7, 04:50 PM
ANKARA, Turkey — Challenging Western sanctions, NATO ally Turkey has pledged to further its defense industry cooperation with Russia, including fighter jet and aircraft engine technologies, a second batch of S-400 air defense systems, and submarines.
The end of September saw Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan fail to mend ties with the Biden administration, instead turning eastward to strengthen defense industry cooperation.
In an interview with CBS show “Face the Nation,” Erdogan said America’s refusal to both deliver F-35 fighter jets — which Turkey agreed to purchase — and sell Patriot air defense missiles gave Turkey no choice but to turn to Russia for the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system. The acquisition was a point of contention between Turkey and NATO during the Trump administration, and that sentiment has carried over to the new administration.
“In the future, nobody will be able to interfere in terms of what kind of defense systems we acquire, from which country at what level. Nobody can interfere with that. We are the only ones to make such decisions,” Erdogan said.
Turkey was kicked out of the U.S.-led, multinational consortium that builds the F-35 Lightening II. Washington also placed sanctions on Ankara in December 2020 via the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act. The move was the first time the law was used to penalize a U.S. ally.
The chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., pointed out that sanctions were mandated by law for “any entity that does significant business with the Russian military or intelligence sectors.”
“Any new purchases by Turkey must mean new sanctions,” Menendez said on Twitter.
But Turkey remains defiant. On Sept. 26, Erdogan said his country would consider buying a second batch of S-400 systems from Russia.
“Negotiations [for the second batch] are progressing,” a senior procurement official told Defense News. “The level [of talks] is strategic and political at the moment. We have not yet reached technicalities, financing and pricing.”
Erdogan went to Sochi, Russia, on Sept. 29 for a summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin. “We had the opportunity to discuss comprehensively what steps to take in the production of plane engines, what steps to take regarding fighter jets,” Erdogan said of the meeting, adding that other measures could include building ships and submarines.
On the flight back, he told reporters that Turkey intends to seek compensation for its removal from the F-35 program, possibly during a meeting with U.S. President Joe Biden on the margins of a Group of 20 meeting in October.
“We made a $1.4 billion payment. What will become of that?” Erdogan said. “We did not — and do not — earn this money easily. Either they will give us our planes or they will give us the money.”
Turkey is running a program to co-produce, under German license, six submarines. But Erdogan said the program was not progressing at a desired pace. “We may have to look at alternatives,” he said.
The procurement official told Defense News that “Russia can be the know-how source to meet our need for engine technology.”
“And not only that; we may soon start talks to acquire Russian fighters as a stopgap solution before our indigenous fighter program matures,” the official added.
Turkey has been thriving to design, develop and build its homemade fighter, the TF-X, for the past several years. The program has been crawling despite initial predesign help from Britain’s BAE Systems under a $115 million contract.
Turkish Aerospace Industries, the prime contractor for the TF-X effort, has not yet selected an engine that will power the future jet. TAI hopes to fly the TF-X in 2025 or 2026, but industry sources say that target is too optimistic.
Suzan Frazer with The Associated Press contributed to this report from Ankara, Turkey.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/euro ... ias-orbit/
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Turquia pede aos EUA para comprar 40 jatos F-16 para atualizar sua força aérea
https://www.cavok.com.br/turquia-pede-a ... orca-aerea
Há fontes de que os EUA vão recusar....vamos aguardar e ver...
https://www.cavok.com.br/turquia-pede-a ... orca-aerea
Há fontes de que os EUA vão recusar....vamos aguardar e ver...
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Seria um otimo pretexto para a Turquia pular de cabeça nessa "parceria" com a Rússia.
Não temais ímpias falanges,
Que apresentam face hostil,
Vossos peitos, vossos braços,
São muralhas do Brasil!
Que apresentam face hostil,
Vossos peitos, vossos braços,
São muralhas do Brasil!
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seria de uma burrice tão absurda, tão gigantesca, que pode até ser verdadeavc1 escreveu: ↑Sex Out 08, 2021 1:51 pm Turquia pede aos EUA para comprar 40 jatos F-16 para atualizar sua força aérea
https://www.cavok.com.br/turquia-pede-a ... orca-aerea
Há fontes de que os EUA vão recusar....vamos aguardar e ver...
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US lawmakers urge Biden administration not to sell F-16 fighter jets to Turkeyjumentodonordeste escreveu: ↑Sex Out 08, 2021 3:26 pmseria de uma burrice tão absurda, tão gigantesca, que pode até ser verdadeavc1 escreveu: ↑Sex Out 08, 2021 1:51 pm Turquia pede aos EUA para comprar 40 jatos F-16 para atualizar sua força aérea
https://www.cavok.com.br/turquia-pede-a ... orca-aerea
Há fontes de que os EUA vão recusar....vamos aguardar e ver...
11 members of the US House of Representatives, both Democrat and Republican, have addressed a letter to US President Biden and Secretary of State Blinken and called on them to not sell F-16 fighter jets to Turkey
https://bianet.org/english/world/252457 ... -to-turkey
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Puro jogo. A Turquia já sabe que quer mesmo comprar caças russos, Su-57 e Su-35, até que operacionalizem seu próprio 5G, que ao que tudo indica vai ter motor russo.
Só que não vão fazer isso de cara dura, como se estivessem eles ativamente procurando os russos.
Então fazem essa consulta, esse pedido de oferta aos americanos, já meio que sabendo que será rejeitado. Para aí sim, poderem dizer "tá vendo só, vocês que não quiseram vender, agora vamos ali do lado e pegamos o que precisamos".
Só que não vão fazer isso de cara dura, como se estivessem eles ativamente procurando os russos.
Então fazem essa consulta, esse pedido de oferta aos americanos, já meio que sabendo que será rejeitado. Para aí sim, poderem dizer "tá vendo só, vocês que não quiseram vender, agora vamos ali do lado e pegamos o que precisamos".
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As coisas têm ido de mal a pior ultimamente. Parece que Erdogan decidiu pressionar e ameaçar com uma guerra aberta.
https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 090_1.html
https://www.hurriyet.com.tr/yazarlar/se ... i-41892878
Nessa entrevista acima, Hulusi Akar simplesmente deixou claro que a Turquia é uma potência regional e que os EUA devem cooperar com eles para seguir operando no O.M, além disso, algumas operações turcas no Iraque são interrompidas pela presença americana na região, deixando os turcos irritados.
Erdogan prometendo a Grécia um "fim trágico" se continuar a armas as ilhas do Mar Egeu.
https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 090_1.html
Erdogan demands demilitarisation of Greece, threatens operation in Syria
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... y-exerciseThis week Turkey repeated its demands that Greece demilitarizes its east Aegean islands, saying that it will challenge their sovereignty otherwise. Turkey's Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu even went as far as presenting a map of 14 islands whose sovereignty could be challenged by Turkey.
“Turkey will not step back from using its rights if necessary and will not give up its rights in the Aegean under the international agreements,” Erdogan said Thursday at an annual military exercise on the Aegean coast. “I am not joking, I am speaking very seriously.”
Erdogan Warns Greece Over Troops on Aegean Islands at Drills
A Turquia anda bastante incomodada com a preseça militar americana na região, eu venho notando isso já tem basicamente um ano.Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned Greece against deploying forces on Greek islands in the Aegean Sea, after criticizing what he described as a growing US military presence in the country.
https://www.hurriyet.com.tr/yazarlar/se ... i-41892878
Nessa entrevista acima, Hulusi Akar simplesmente deixou claro que a Turquia é uma potência regional e que os EUA devem cooperar com eles para seguir operando no O.M, além disso, algumas operações turcas no Iraque são interrompidas pela presença americana na região, deixando os turcos irritados.
Erdogan prometendo a Grécia um "fim trágico" se continuar a armas as ilhas do Mar Egeu.
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Um vídeo de um dos maiores exercícios da história da Turquia, o EFES-2022. Contei 21 helis e mais de 19 navios e embarcações, incluindo o que parece ser 3 submarinos ou lanchas de desembarque no lado esquerdo do agrupamento central. O local parece ser em Esmirna, na costa do Mar Egeu.
https://www.overtdefense.com/2022/06/08 ... es-begins/
Outros dois vídeos do exercício:EFES-2022: One of Turkey’s Largest Exercises Begins
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Os turcos são e continuarão sendo uma pedra no sapato da OTAN.Erdogan: Ocidente não é confiável
“Quando perguntamos à Grécia por que você está implantando bases americanas, eles respondem: “contra a Rússia”. E o que você fez pela Ucrânia contra a Rússia? Suas palavras estão cheias de mentiras. Não se pode confiar no Ocidente, especialmente quando se trata de suas políticas”, disse o presidente em uma reunião com a juventude turca.