Re: CONFLITO ISRAELO-PALESTINIANO
Enviado: Qua Out 28, 2009 5:53 pm
O caso aconteceu em uma das areas de judeus radicais! Nem de longe chega a ser parte do país todo, e todos sabem que os judeus tb tem uma ala radical!
Olha, semitas são todos os povos do médio orientes, árabes e judeus, são todos sejam muçuilmanos, cristãos, cristãos coptas árabes sunitas ou xiitas, ao contrário de persas iranianos, e turco, afegãos, que não são semitas mas sim caucasianos ou hindo-europeus.Dedicado ao anti-semitas do fórum que gostam de se esconder sob um manto de anti-sionismo, um texto do fundador original da organização Human Rights Watch, a maior ONG de direitos humanos do mundo.Texto em inglês, talvez mais tarde eu poste uma tradução pra quem não entende a língua.
A conversa é sempre a mesma, quando se criticas as atitudes Israelenses, os crimes de guerra que este Estado pratica com a conivência das suas autoridades, logo se são acusado de ser anti-semita, Nazi e etc....Kratos escreveu:Dedicado ao anti-semitas do fórum que gostam de se esconder sob um manto de anti-sionismo, um texto do fundador original da organização Human Rights Watch, a maior ONG de direitos humanos do mundo.Texto em inglês, talvez mais tarde eu poste uma tradução pra quem não entende a língua.
fonte: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/20/opini ... odayspaperOctober 20, 2009
Op-Ed Contributor
Rights Watchdog, Lost in the Mideast
By ROBERT L. BERNSTEIN
AS the founder of Human Rights Watch, its active chairman for 20 years and now founding chairman emeritus, I must do something that I never anticipated: I must publicly join the group’s critics. Human Rights Watch had as its original mission to pry open closed societies, advocate basic freedoms and support dissenters. But recently it has been issuing reports on the Israeli-Arab conflict that are helping those who wish to turn Israel into a pariah state.
At Human Rights Watch, we always recognized that open, democratic societies have faults and commit abuses. But we saw that they have the ability to correct them — through vigorous public debate, an adversarial press and many other mechanisms that encourage reform.
That is why we sought to draw a sharp line between the democratic and nondemocratic worlds, in an effort to create clarity in human rights. We wanted to prevent the Soviet Union and its followers from playing a moral equivalence game with the West and to encourage liberalization by drawing attention to dissidents like Andrei Sakharov, Natan Sharansky and those in the Soviet gulag — and the millions in China’s laogai, or labor camps.
When I stepped aside in 1998, Human Rights Watch was active in 70 countries, most of them closed societies. Now the organization, with increasing frequency, casts aside its important distinction between open and closed societies.
Nowhere is this more evident than in its work in the Middle East. The region is populated by authoritarian regimes with appalling human rights records. Yet in recent years Human Rights Watch has written far more condemnations of Israel for violations of international law than of any other country in the region.
Israel, with a population of 7.4 million, is home to at least 80 human rights organizations, a vibrant free press, a democratically elected government, a judiciary that frequently rules against the government, a politically active academia, multiple political parties and, judging by the amount of news coverage, probably more journalists per capita than any other country in the world — many of whom are there expressly to cover the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Meanwhile, the Arab and Iranian regimes rule over some 350 million people, and most remain brutal, closed and autocratic, permitting little or no internal dissent. The plight of their citizens who would most benefit from the kind of attention a large and well-financed international human rights organization can provide is being ignored as Human Rights Watch’s Middle East division prepares report after report on Israel.
Human Rights Watch has lost critical perspective on a conflict in which Israel has been repeatedly attacked by Hamas and Hezbollah, organizations that go after Israeli citizens and use their own people as human shields. These groups are supported by the government of Iran, which has openly declared its intention not just to destroy Israel but to murder Jews everywhere. This incitement to genocide is a violation of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.
Leaders of Human Rights Watch know that Hamas and Hezbollah chose to wage war from densely populated areas, deliberately transforming neighborhoods into battlefields. They know that more and better arms are flowing into both Gaza and Lebanon and are poised to strike again. And they know that this militancy continues to deprive Palestinians of any chance for the peaceful and productive life they deserve. Yet Israel, the repeated victim of aggression, faces the brunt of Human Rights Watch’s criticism.
The organization is expressly concerned mainly with how wars are fought, not with motivations. To be sure, even victims of aggression are bound by the laws of war and must do their utmost to minimize civilian casualties. Nevertheless, there is a difference between wrongs committed in self-defense and those perpetrated intentionally.
But how does Human Rights Watch know that these laws have been violated? In Gaza and elsewhere where there is no access to the battlefield or to the military and political leaders who make strategic decisions, it is extremely difficult to make definitive judgments about war crimes. Reporting often relies on witnesses whose stories cannot be verified and who may testify for political advantage or because they fear retaliation from their own rulers. Significantly, Col. Richard Kemp, the former commander of British forces in Afghanistan and an expert on warfare, has said that the Israel Defense Forces in Gaza “did more to safeguard the rights of civilians in a combat zone than any other army in the history of warfare.”
Only by returning to its founding mission and the spirit of humility that animated it can Human Rights Watch resurrect itself as a moral force in the Middle East and throughout the world. If it fails to do that, its credibility will be seriously undermined and its important role in the world significantly diminished.
Robert L. Bernstein, the former president and chief executive of Random House, was the chairman of Human Rights Watch from 1978 to 1998.
FOXTROT escreveu:Prefiro apenas ser apontado como alguém que não compactua com os atos beligerantes da política externa Israelense, política de guerra constante, e que a menor sinal de possibilidade de paz, é de pronto boicotada por este Estado do Médio oriente.
Mediadas pelo patrão dos sionistas....Por isso fracassaram
Grande Rui!Rui Elias Maltez escreveu:Olha, semitas são todos os povos do médio orientes, árabes e judeus, são todos sejam muçuilmanos, cristãos, cristãos coptas árabes sunitas ou xiitas, ao contrário de persas iranianos, e turco, afegãos, que não são semitas mas sim caucasianos ou hindo-europeus.Dedicado ao anti-semitas do fórum que gostam de se esconder sob um manto de anti-sionismo, um texto do fundador original da organização Human Rights Watch, a maior ONG de direitos humanos do mundo.Texto em inglês, talvez mais tarde eu poste uma tradução pra quem não entende a língua.
A coisa não se coloca como a besta do Hitler o entendeu.
E sim, eu sou anti-sionista, que é coisa diametralmente oposta.
Agora se perguntarem se apesar de a terra ser pequena, o ideal era que os dois povos, as duas religiões em vez de separadas pudessem viver misturadas, que os judeus pudessem sem problemas visitar a esplanada das mesquitas ou os muçulmanos árabes ou de outras partes pudessem visitar e tocar no muro das lamentações, eu acredito que fosse o ideal, como acontece em Portugal, por exemplo.
Mas ali as regras são diferentes e para evitar coisas mais sangrentas, que tal evitarem-se as provocações gratuitas e desnecessárias.
Por exemplo, a policia escoltar turistas franceses judeus à esplanada, e dado o que por ali se passa não o considedaria um provocação desnecessária?
Os tais turistas seriam assim tão ecuménicos que não pudessem dispensar essa visita?
Ou o que fariam os judeus se de repente o líder do Hamas visitasse respeitosamente o Templo?
É, o Irã tem que fazer a bomba atômica mesmo, porque com as convencionais não conseguem acertar nada... Espero que o vetor iraniano seja mais preciso, pra não acertar Damasco ou o Cairo.desde que a ofensiva terminou, em 18 de janeiro, as milícias palestinas lançaram cerca de 250 foguetes contra território israelense, que não deixaram vítimas.
O mediterrâneo é enorme!FOXTROT escreveu:---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Resta saber onde ocorreu este teste no imenso território Palestino