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Einsamkeit escreveu:O Amur maior tem capacidade para lançar misseis pesados?

Einsamkeit escreveu:Misseis como o Shipwreck

Carlos Mathias escreveu:Club-N? Pelo que eu li, essa arma é fantástica.

CLUB (KLUB, KLAB) [SS-NX-27]
The Club system is a family of anti-ship, anti-submarine and land attack missiles with variants for delivery from surface ships and submarines. The version intended for the Russian Navy is reportedly designated Kalibr. Designed by OKB Novator in Yekaterinburg, the Club system was publicly displayed at the Ural Expo-2000.[1] The Club system design is based on technology from Novator's earlier 3M10/RK-55 Granat [NATO designation SS-N-21 'Sampson'] cruise missile and RPK-2 Vyuga [NATO designation SS-N-15] ASW missile.[2,3] The direct predecessor of the 3M54E cruise missile (the anti-ship component of the Club system), the 3M51 Alfa, was first displayed in 1993 at arms conventions in Abu-Dhabi and Zhukovskiy (MAKS-93).[4]

There are two major Club variants: the Club-N for use on surface ships, and the Club-S for use on submarines. The Club family consists of three different missiles: the 3M54E (and 3M54E1), 3M14E, and 91RE1 (and 91RE2). The 3M54E is an anti-ship cruise missile consisting of a launch stage, a winged low-flying subsonic cruise stage, and a terminal low-flying supersonic payload stage with a range of 20km.[5] It can be fired from surface ship vertical launch tubes or 533mm submarine torpedo tubes. It has a 200kg payload with a range of 220km. The 3M54E1 is a smaller version that does not have the third supersonic stage, but it has a longer range (300km) and a heavier payload (400kg).[1,6] The 3M14E is designed to engage fixed ground targets and consists of a launch stage and a winged low-flying subsonic cruise stage. The 91RE1/2 is a ballistic anti-submarine missile whose payload is an underwater rocket-propelled homing torpedo. The 91RE1 is designed for surface ship launch tubes, while the 91RE2 is designed for submarine torpedo tubes.[5] No air-launched variants have been announced yet.[6] Production of the missiles is to take place at the Kalinin Machine-Building Plant in Yekaterinburg.[4]

As of April 2002 India was the only customer of the Club system, which is being installed on the Indian Navy's Russian-built frigates and submarines. China and Iran have also expressed interest in purchasing the Club system as part of potential upgrade programs for their Russian-built submarines. China reportedly received technical information about the system from OKB Novator at the request of Rosvooruzheniye.[7,8]

Club Missile Characteristics [1,7] 3M54E 3M54E1 3M14E 91RE1 91RE2
Length (m) 8.22 6.2 6.2 8 6.5
Diameter (m) .53 .53 .53 .514 .514
Range (km) 220 300 300 50 40
Speed (Mach) .6-.8, terminal phase 3.0 .6-.8 .6-.8 N/A N/A
Launch Weight (kg) 1920 1570 1780 2050 1300
Payload (kg) 200 400 400 450kg torpedo 450kg torpedo
Trajectory Cruise Cruise Cruise Ballistic Ballistic

Club S Naval Cruise Missile
Novator experimental machine design bureau (Russia)


Club S submarine launched cruise missile family, includes the 3M-54E1 anti-ship missile and 3M-14E land attack versions, capable of striking land and naval targets from a range of 275km. The missile can be launched from standard torpedo tubes, from depth of 35 – 40 m' (130 feet), cruise autonomously along a selected flight trajectory and, at a speed of 240 m/sec, at an altitude of 20 meters (70 feet), and when approaching the target, drops to a sea skimming level of 5 – 10 meters (20 - 30 feet).

The missile is equipped with a 400kg (880 pound) warhead. One of the key elements in the effectiveness of the new Club S is its active radar seeker, the Args 14e designed by Radar MMS of St. Petersburg. This 40 kg system radar system is employed in the terminal phase, less than 20km ahead of the target, to provide target detection, selection and guidance. The seeker is designed for high resistance to ECM, and is designed to operate as a single missile or in salvos firing.

Russia is promoting the Amur-950 (Lada class) diesel electric submarine, armed with the Club-S cruise missile system capable of hitting underwater, surface and land targets.

P44 escreveu:http://www.nti.org/db/nisprofs/russia/exports/general/expmsl.htm

CLUB (KLUB, KLAB) [SS-NX-27]
The Club system is a family of anti-ship, anti-submarine and land attack missiles with variants for delivery from surface ships and submarines. The version intended for the Russian Navy is reportedly designated Kalibr. Designed by OKB Novator in Yekaterinburg, the Club system was publicly displayed at the Ural Expo-2000.[1] The Club system design is based on technology from Novator's earlier 3M10/RK-55 Granat [NATO designation SS-N-21 'Sampson'] cruise missile and RPK-2 Vyuga [NATO designation SS-N-15] ASW missile.[2,3] The direct predecessor of the 3M54E cruise missile (the anti-ship component of the Club system), the 3M51 Alfa, was first displayed in 1993 at arms conventions in Abu-Dhabi and Zhukovskiy (MAKS-93).[4]

There are two major Club variants: the Club-N for use on surface ships, and the Club-S for use on submarines. The Club family consists of three different missiles: the 3M54E (and 3M54E1), 3M14E, and 91RE1 (and 91RE2). The 3M54E is an anti-ship cruise missile consisting of a launch stage, a winged low-flying subsonic cruise stage, and a terminal low-flying supersonic payload stage with a range of 20km.[5] It can be fired from surface ship vertical launch tubes or 533mm submarine torpedo tubes. It has a 200kg payload with a range of 220km. The 3M54E1 is a smaller version that does not have the third supersonic stage, but it has a longer range (300km) and a heavier payload (400kg).[1,6] The 3M14E is designed to engage fixed ground targets and consists of a launch stage and a winged low-flying subsonic cruise stage. The 91RE1/2 is a ballistic anti-submarine missile whose payload is an underwater rocket-propelled homing torpedo. The 91RE1 is designed for surface ship launch tubes, while the 91RE2 is designed for submarine torpedo tubes.[5] No air-launched variants have been announced yet.[6] Production of the missiles is to take place at the Kalinin Machine-Building Plant in Yekaterinburg.[4]

As of April 2002 India was the only customer of the Club system, which is being installed on the Indian Navy's Russian-built frigates and submarines. China and Iran have also expressed interest in purchasing the Club system as part of potential upgrade programs for their Russian-built submarines. China reportedly received technical information about the system from OKB Novator at the request of Rosvooruzheniye.[7,8]

Club Missile Characteristics [1,7] 3M54E 3M54E1 3M14E 91RE1 91RE2
Length (m) 8.22 6.2 6.2 8 6.5
Diameter (m) .53 .53 .53 .514 .514
Range (km) 220 300 300 50 40
Speed (Mach) .6-.8, terminal phase 3.0 .6-.8 .6-.8 N/A N/A
Launch Weight (kg) 1920 1570 1780 2050 1300
Payload (kg) 200 400 400 450kg torpedo 450kg torpedo
Trajectory Cruise Cruise Cruise Ballistic Ballistic

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Club S Naval Cruise Missile
Novator experimental machine design bureau (Russia)


Club S submarine launched cruise missile family, includes the 3M-54E1 anti-ship missile and 3M-14E land attack versions, capable of striking land and naval targets from a range of 275km. The missile can be launched from standard torpedo tubes, from depth of 35 – 40 m' (130 feet), cruise autonomously along a selected flight trajectory and, at a speed of 240 m/sec, at an altitude of 20 meters (70 feet), and when approaching the target, drops to a sea skimming level of 5 – 10 meters (20 - 30 feet).

The missile is equipped with a 400kg (880 pound) warhead. One of the key elements in the effectiveness of the new Club S is its active radar seeker, the Args 14e designed by Radar MMS of St. Petersburg. This 40 kg system radar system is employed in the terminal phase, less than 20km ahead of the target, to provide target detection, selection and guidance. The seeker is designed for high resistance to ECM, and is designed to operate as a single missile or in salvos firing.

Russia is promoting the Amur-950 (Lada class) diesel electric submarine, armed with the Club-S cruise missile system capable of hitting underwater, surface and land targets.

http://www.defense-update.com/products/c/club-s.htm

Marino escreveu:Caro Walter
Excelente, como sempre.
Gostaria de contribuir, expandindo somente a parte inicial do texto, e acrescentar algo sobre a estratégia naval soviética.
Primeiro um pouco de geopolítica: existem os países marítimos, cujas características foram definidas por Mahan, como a Inglaterra e os EUA, e os países continentais, do quais a antiga URSS era um exemplo e a Rússia hoje em dia.
Os países continentais, ou potências terrestres, sempre deram maior importância a seus exércitos, com razão, pois não possuiam o Canal da Mancha ou o Atlântico como barreiras naturais contra invasões.
Dando uma importância secundária à Marinha, nada mais natural que priorizar os submarinos como meio de negação do mar contra as potências marítimas, e projeção de poder, com os subs lançadores de mísseis balísticos.
A estratégia soviética podia ser chamada de círculos concêntricos, com os submarinos nucleares tentando negar o uso do mar as FT de PA americanas, longe da costa, a aviação como um segundo círculo, seguindo-se dos navios, lanchas lança mísseis, subs convencionais, como outro círculo e a defesa de costa, por último.
Com a crise dos mísseis de Cuba, foi tomada a decisão de transformar a força de superfície "guarda-costa" em uma força oceânica, a cargo do Alte Gorshkov, obtendo bases em águas quentes dos países satélites. Com o fim da URSS esta marinha "mirrou", mas a estratégia de negação do uso do mar perdura.
Abç
Marino

Einsamkeit escreveu:Gostaria de saber o Por que nao construirem SSK maiores que 2,500t? geralmente sao todos abaixo dessa tonelagem.

cicloneprojekt escreveu:

Marino escreveu:Caro Walter
Excelente, como sempre.
Gostaria de contribuir, expandindo somente a parte inicial do texto, e acrescentar algo sobre a estratégia naval soviética.
Primeiro um pouco de geopolítica: existem os países marítimos, cujas características foram definidas por Mahan, como a Inglaterra e os EUA, e os países continentais, do quais a antiga URSS era um exemplo e a Rússia hoje em dia.
Os países continentais, ou potências terrestres, sempre deram maior importância a seus exércitos, com razão, pois não possuiam o Canal da Mancha ou o Atlântico como barreiras naturais contra invasões.
Dando uma importância secundária à Marinha, nada mais natural que priorizar os submarinos como meio de negação do mar contra as potências marítimas, e projeção de poder, com os subs lançadores de mísseis balísticos.
A estratégia soviética podia ser chamada de círculos concêntricos, com os submarinos nucleares tentando negar o uso do mar as FT de PA americanas, longe da costa, a aviação como um segundo círculo, seguindo-se dos navios, lanchas lança mísseis, subs convencionais, como outro círculo e a defesa de costa, por último.
Com a crise dos mísseis de Cuba, foi tomada a decisão de transformar a força de superfície "guarda-costa" em uma força oceânica, a cargo do Alte Gorshkov, obtendo bases em águas quentes dos países satélites. Com o fim da URSS esta marinha "mirrou", mas a estratégia de negação do uso do mar perdura.
Abç
Marino

Muito obrigado pela crítica Marino.
No que tange a crise dos mísseis achoque muita cabeça coroada do alto-comando naval soviético deve ter rolado, qdo. os russos foram obrigados a recuar frente ao bloqueio naval Americano.

sds

Walter