P44 escreveu:Ferrol,
Que te parece?
Achas que a Navantia está bem lançada pra ficar com este projecto?
Hola P44:
Sobre isto, quizáis os propios australianos poidan dicir algo:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21304930-31477,00.htmlSpain leads for $7bn navy contract
Patrick Walters, National security editor
March 01, 2007
SPAIN is poised to win the contest to design the navy's new air warfare destroyers, destined to be the biggest and most advanced warships in its fleet.
As the race to win the contract to design the three vessels enters its final weeks, state-owned Spanish naval builder Navantia is heading its US rival on price and delivery time.
The $7 billion program will be Australia's second-biggest defence project in the coming decade, after the $14 billion joint strike fighter for the air force.
Long regarded as simply a stalking horse for a new warship designed by US firm Gibbs and Cox based on the US Navy's Arleigh Burke class destroyers, Spain's modified F100 warship is now an even-money bet to win the contract.
The Spanish ship is much cheaper and would be delivered about two years earlier than the US design submitted by Gibbs and Cox.
Gibbs and Cox has been the Howard Government's preferred designer for the air warfare destroyers, but the firm's bigger and more capable warship exists only in its preliminary design phase.
And final target cost estimates due to be handed to the Defence Department tomorrow are expected to put the Spanish F100 warship ahead on price by more than $500 million, according to government and industry sources.
The Government has committed $450 million to the project's start-up, with the cabinet due to take the final decision on the winning design in July.
In August 2005, the Government announced that the Gibbs and Cox "evolved design" would compete with an "Australianised" version of the F100 for the right to be chosen as the navy's new frontline warship.
The new ships will be equipped with the US-made Aegis combat system, giving them the ability to track hostile aircraft and missiles at ranges beyond 150km.
Adelaide-based shipbuilder ASC has already been chosen to construct the vessels, while Raytheon will be the systems integrator, as part of a novel alliance with partners ASC and the Defence Materiel Organisation.
Spain's belated recognition that its F100 could be selected has resulted in a last-minute lobbying push by the Spanish Government.
The Spanish F100 air warfare destroyer Alvaro de Bazan arrives in Perth today at the start of a three-week visit designed to highlights the ship's advanced capabilities. Spain is also sending its naval chief and senior government officials to Australia this month in an effort to clinch the AWD contract.
The design offered by Gibbs and Cox is a more powerful warship than the Spanish F100 air warfare destroyer, and remains the navy's preferred choice.
Gibbs and Cox believes the heavily modified Arleigh Burke offers better all-round combat capability and better growth options for future technology upgrades than the F100.
But with four F100s already in service with the Spanish navy, Navantia argues that its destroyer offers a low-risk and highly capable solution for the Royal Australian Navy.
The first of the navy's new frontline destroyers is scheduled to be delivered in 2013, but the US design is not likely to be in service before 2015.
En resumen, os políticos prefiren as F-100, porque xa están flotando e as modificacións necesarias para poñelas ó gusto australiano son menores que as necesarias para modificar un Burke e adaptalo á Armada Australiana. Pero o goberno australiano é moi cercano ó americano, e España non se leva moi ben cos americanos...e a propia Armada australiana prefire os Burke, máis grandes, máis capaces...
O deseño previo llo encargaron á Gibbs&Coxx, para evoluciona-lo Burke, así que, en principio eles levan a avantaxe...
De tódolos xeitos, que Navantia chegase deica aquí, por diante dos alemáns e falando de igual a igual á Gibss&Coxx ou á DCN, é unha cousa deica hai ben pouco incrible para a Navantia. Así que eu, como ferrolán que vexo tódolos días o asteleiro e coñezo traballadores alí, estou contento de que xa se fale de nós na outra punta do mundo...gañe ou perda, eu xa case me dou por satisfeito. Ademáis, o negocio sería só para o deseño, non para á construcción, que será local...nós en Ferrol non veriamos o metal, só o papel dos deseños...ou sexa, medio negocio, nada máis.
Pero en fin, algo é algo...supoño que se gañaría en prestixio internacional e algúns nos foros quedarían a ve-las pinturas oxidarse no Pacífico...
É só a miña opinión...