Re: PAK FA - VOOU!!!
Enviado: Qua Mar 10, 2010 3:32 pm
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Eu acho difícil, hein! É melhor eles ficarem no prejuízo e usarem parte da "experiência" adquirida para desenvolverem outros projetos do que repassar a um possível competidor em um outro projeto futuro.kekosam escreveu:Senhores, uma dúvida...
Tivemos recentemente duas concorrências para aeronaves de 5ª geração nos EUA:
YF-22 x YF-23
X-32 x X-35
No caso dos perdedores (YF-23 e X-32), os conceitos/dados/blue prints/protótipos... etc... poderiam ser vendidos pelas empresas que os produziram para outros países, pagando o referido valor pela transferência do projeto, ou parte dele?
Exatamente. Mesmo que quisessem são PROIBIDOS de faze-lo.soultrain escreveu:Não,
Esses projectos foram pagos pelo Estado, a sua propriedade, não é das empresas que os desenvolveram.
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Levar o Brahmos ja era esperado.P44 escreveu:
http://www.hitechweb.genezis.eu/fightersSF04.htm
para os que criticam o painel azul-bebédo mp.netThe teal blue colour was found to be the least psychologically tiring colour for the pilot a long time ago. That is why all Soviet/Russian cockpits have that colour.
‘India, Russia to ink pact on fifth generation fighter aircraft’
India and Russia are expected to sign the first of a series of agreements for the development of fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) to meet futuristic requirements of the Indian Air Force during Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin’s visit to New Delhi later this week.
“We expect to ink the agreement for the development of FGFA design and its technical parameters after March 10,” sources in the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) said.
The comments come ahead of Mr. Putin’s two-day visit to New Delhi beginning on Thursday.
The twin-stick two seater version of the futuristic multi-role fighter jet for the IAF would be developed by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) and ‘Sukhoi’ Corporation, which is part of the Russian integrated aircraft manufacturer UAC on the parity basis.
“India would be the only partner in the FGFA project and the two sides have agreed to share the proceeds from the sale of the fighters to third countries keeping in view their intellectual property rights,” the sources said.
The design of the FGFA for IAF would be based on Sukhoi’s T-50 PAK FA technology demonstrator, which after making its maiden flight on January 29 is beginning a series of trials.
According to local media reports, the cost of the project would be around USD 8-10 billion and would be shared by India and Russia on parity basis.
The aircraft would carry a price tag of USD 85-100 million and would be available in the global market after India and Russia meet their initial requirements.PAK FA with 'Brahmos'
The PAK FA chief designer Alexander Davydenko said, that during development work, the fight between T-50 and F-22 was modeled with good outcome for T-50. He also informed that the new avionics, weapon systems are already exist but will appeared latter since the 1st prototype is not ready for actually weapon carrying. The 2015 as the end term for starting serial supply was confirmed too.
Most important he said, T-50 will be built together with India 'in principle 50 and 50%', and can be equipped with 'Brahmos' missiles. It's first official confirmation about possibility of 'Brahmos' installation on PAK FA/FGFA fighter. However, it's not clear whether these missiles would be installed on the internal or external bays. Anyway, it can be 1-2 missiles only due to heavy weight of 'Brahmos' supersonic missile.
India, Russia agree details of joint 5G-fighter project
India and Russia have agreed in general on shared responsibility for the joint development of the fifth-generation fighter, the chairman of the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) said. Moscow and New Delhi are expected to sign a contract on the joint development of the new fighter in the near future, focusing on the design concept and technical requirements put forward by India.
"Currently, broad areas of work sharing have been identified. Composite materials, avionics, etc. could be some of the focus areas of HAL," Ashok Nayak said in an exclusive interview with RIA Novosti.
Nayak did not specify the cost of the project but said it would be split evenly between India and Russia.
The sides agreed to develop both a single-seat and a two-seat versions of the aircraft by 2016, focusing on the single-seat version in the initial stages of development.
"Both versions will be put in service with the Indian Air Force," Nayak said.
The HAL chairman said the Indian side had already specified technical requirements for the single-seat version and passed them on to Russian manufacturers.
"The general agreement is that we work on both sides - the Russians and the Indians will cooperate on both versions of the aircraft," he said.
The new aircraft will be most likely based on Russia's T-50 prototype fifth-generation fighter, which has already made two test flights and is expected to join the Russian Air Force in 2015.
Russia has been developing its fifth-generation fighter since the 1990s. The current prototype, known as the T-50, was designed by the Sukhoi design bureau and built at a plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, in Russia's Far East.
Russian officials have already hailed the fighter as "a unique warplane" that combines the capabilities of an air superiority fighter and attack aircraft.
NEW DELHI, March 11 (RIA Novosti)
Segundo a revista asas, a projeção é que o Pak Fa possua 19,80 m de comprimento e 14,00 m de envergadura.cabeça de martelo escreveu:Pelos vistos este novo caça é um pouco mais pequeno que o SU-27.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE62 ... nnel=11700Russia to make 1,000 stealth jets, eyes India deal
Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:41pm GMT
By Gleb Bryanski
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Russia will build more than 1,000 stealth fighter jets within four decades, including at least 200 for its traditional weapons buyer India, the head of plane maker Sukhoi said on Friday.
Sukhoi test-flew its long-delayed fifth-generation fighter at the end of January, and Moscow said it would be able to compete with its U.S. F-22 Raptor rival built more than a decade ago.
Sukhoi said last week it hoped the fighter, codenamed T-50, would be ready for use in 2015.
"If you talk about warplanes of this type, there is definitely a market for it if we produce more than 1,000 jets," Sukhoi director Mikhail Pogosyan told reporters on the sidelines of Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin's visit to India.
"We have all grounds to believe that there will not be tough competition on the world market," he said.
He said Russia would produce more than 1,000 of the planes within 35 to 40 years.
After the test flight, Putin said Russia had plenty of work to do on the plane.
Analysts say Russia's plans for a joint venture with India to produce the stealth fighters will likely be watched with unease by India's uneasy neighbour Pakistan and regional rival China.
Pogosyan said an agreement on joint output of the jet with India was still in the works and did not say when a deal might be signed.
"I believe that more than 200 planes will be delivered (to India)," Pogosyan said.
"I think (Russia's) defence ministry will buy no less than this amount," he said. About 600 of the planes would be sold elsewhere, he said.
Analysts say several nations, including Libya and Vietnam, have already expressed interest in the fifth-generation fighter.
"Apart from America, the only other fifth-generation project is Russia's, while the Europeans have given up such plans," Pogosyan said.
"Probably the Chinese will try and promote such a product, but I think they face an immense amount of work to make their product competitive," he said.
(Reporting by Gleb Bryanski; Writing by Dmitry Solovyov; Editing by Paul Tait)
Só não consegui achar a fonte que ele citou.So, I guess it's official: there will be 8 internal missiles, 6 in the centerline weapons bays and 2 in the side bays.
Information according to the head of aerodynamic testing of TsAGI (Central Aero-Hydrodynamical Institute), where PAK-FA static model is currently undergoing wind turbine tests.