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o SU-35 estava armado com o R-77 (RVV-AE) e Vympel R-73
Então mas cade que o SU-35 tava armado com o R-77 (RVV-AE) comum ?Passa o link ai... fontes please.
Está na noticia original, na primeira página deste tópico e em mais três tópicos, o de Noticias, o do SU e do próprio Gripen...
Adriano Mt escreveu:Passa o link ai... fontes please.gaitero escreveu: O Gripen NG estava armado com os mísseis MBDA Meteor (BVR) e mísseis Diehl BGT Defence IRIS-T (WVR) , o SU-35 estava armado com o R-77 (RVV-AE) e Vympel R-73
Chutar as qualidades do Meteor ou do IRST é uma coisa, agora chutar as do R-77M já seria demais... ![8-]](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif "Cool"){kind=icon}
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O Iris-T está operacional. O Meteor eles são desenvolvedores, o Gripen já disparou alguns de teste e será a primeira plataforma a opera-lo.gaitero escreveu:Eu sou a sua fonte, se quizer acreditar acredite, não divulgo as minhas...
PS: Como a Suécia teria acesso a informações sigilosas de um míssil que nem esta em funcionamento...
É o conhecido pelo ocidente.Adriano Mt escreveu:Então mas cade que o SU-35 tava armado com o R-77 (RVV-AE) comum ?
O Gripen NG estava armado com os mísseis MBDA Meteor (BVR) e mísseis Diehl BGT Defence IRIS-T (WVR) , o SU-35 estava armado com o R-77 (RVV-AE) e Vympel R-73
Isto é verdade, não da pra chutar o R77K, até mesmo porque hora é uma coisa prometida hora é outra.Passa o link ai... fontes please.
Eu sou a sua fonte, se quizer acreditar acredite, não divulgo as minhas...
PS: Como a Suécia teria acesso a informações sigilosas de um míssil que nem esta em funcionamento...
A única coisa que os Suecos desenvolveram no Meteor é o cabide dele para o Gripen!Bolovo escreveu:O Iris-T está operacional. O Meteor eles são desenvolvedores, o Gripen já disparou alguns de teste e será a primeira plataforma a opera-lo.gaitero escreveu:Eu sou a sua fonte, se quizer acreditar acredite, não divulgo as minhas...
PS: Como a Suécia teria acesso a informações sigilosas de um míssil que nem esta em funcionamento...É o conhecido pelo ocidente.Adriano Mt escreveu:Então mas cade que o SU-35 tava armado com o R-77 (RVV-AE) comum ?
PRick escreveu:A única coisa que os Suecos desenvolveram no Meteor é o cabide dele para o Gripen!Bolovo escreveu: O Iris-T está operacional. O Meteor eles são desenvolvedores, o Gripen já disparou alguns de teste e será a primeira plataforma a opera-lo. É o conhecido pelo ocidente.
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Francês é que esse míssil não é.Contract
Finally, on 23 December 2002, over two and half years after the original decision was announced, full-scale development and production of Meteor was launched with contract signature by the UK DPA on behalf of the six partner nation governments.[52] The GBP1200m fixed-price contract was signed at the DPA headquarters at Abbey Wood, Bristol. This only covered production for the RAF. At this point none of the other nations had signed up for production.[2]
The percentage share of the programme allocated to each partner nation has changed several times over the years. Germany's decision to reduce its intended acquisition resulted in the UK taking 5% of the programme from Germany, giving the UK 39.6% and Germany 16%. France is funding 12.4%, Italy 12%, and Sweden and Spain 10% each.
A thirty strong Integrated Project Team (IPT) was established in the International Joint Project Office (IJPO) at Abbey Wood with representatives from all six partner nations seconded to the team. The programme will be managed by the UK MoD through the IPT on behalf of the partner nations. The IJPO report to the UK Chief of Defence Procurement, the Executive Board of the DPA, and to an International Steering Committee comprising a one or two star representative from each partner nation's air force.
As prime-contractor MBDA will manage and execute the programme through its operating companies in France, Italy, and the UK, working in close partnership with Bayern-Chemie in Germany, Inmize Sistemas S.L. in Spain, and Saab Bofors Dynamics in Sweden. It is estimated that over 250 companies across Europe will be involved. Work will be allocated by MBDA to its risk-sharing partners on an "earned value basis" under which work is placed according to best commercial value, taking into account technical excellence, but with a view to aligning "broadly" with the share of development funding provided by each nation. The programme will initially create and sustain 2500 jobs across Europe, 1200 in the UK, but successful exports could double these figures.
The development programme will make large-scale use of computer simulation, so should require a relatively small number of firings, some of which will cover activities more traditionally associated with aircraft-integration trials. The first firing, from Gripen, was expected in 2005 with an ISD of August 2012.
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Olha a participação inicial do Programa, não quer dizer desenvolvimento, quase toda a eletrônica do Meteor vem do MICA, inclusive a cabeça de busca, é derivada diretamente do MICA. O percentual de participação indica o montante de recursos alocados, e não o grau de importância dos participantes para a tecnologia usada. O METEOR, depois da inclusão da França no programa, tem alma francesa, é claro o motor e as outras partes foram desenvolvidas por UK e os Alemonios, o resto entra como figuração ou mero integrador do METEOR em seu caça nacional, é isso que os suecos estão fazendo, integrando o METEOR no GRIPEN C.Santiago escreveu:PRick escreveu:
A única coisa que os Suecos desenvolveram no Meteor é o cabide dele para o Gripen!
[]´sFrancês é que esse míssil não é.Contract
Finally, on 23 December 2002, over two and half years after the original decision was announced, full-scale development and production of Meteor was launched with contract signature by the UK DPA on behalf of the six partner nation governments.[52] The GBP1200m fixed-price contract was signed at the DPA headquarters at Abbey Wood, Bristol. This only covered production for the RAF. At this point none of the other nations had signed up for production.[2]
The percentage share of the programme allocated to each partner nation has changed several times over the years. Germany's decision to reduce its intended acquisition resulted in the UK taking 5% of the programme from Germany, giving the UK 39.6% and Germany 16%. France is funding 12.4%, Italy 12%, and Sweden and Spain 10% each.
A thirty strong Integrated Project Team (IPT) was established in the International Joint Project Office (IJPO) at Abbey Wood with representatives from all six partner nations seconded to the team. The programme will be managed by the UK MoD through the IPT on behalf of the partner nations. The IJPO report to the UK Chief of Defence Procurement, the Executive Board of the DPA, and to an International Steering Committee comprising a one or two star representative from each partner nation's air force.
As prime-contractor MBDA will manage and execute the programme through its operating companies in France, Italy, and the UK, working in close partnership with Bayern-Chemie in Germany, Inmize Sistemas S.L. in Spain, and Saab Bofors Dynamics in Sweden. It is estimated that over 250 companies across Europe will be involved. Work will be allocated by MBDA to its risk-sharing partners on an "earned value basis" under which work is placed according to best commercial value, taking into account technical excellence, but with a view to aligning "broadly" with the share of development funding provided by each nation. The programme will initially create and sustain 2500 jobs across Europe, 1200 in the UK, but successful exports could double these figures.
The development programme will make large-scale use of computer simulation, so should require a relatively small number of firings, some of which will cover activities more traditionally associated with aircraft-integration trials. The first firing, from Gripen, was expected in 2005 with an ISD of August 2012.
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Uma das melhores frases dos últimos tempos aqui no DB!Eu sou a sua fonte, se quizer acreditar acredite, não divulgo as minhas...
