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Fala sério, no Kumitê o Rafale apanharia até daquele carinha que luta como um macaco.

A arte marcial do Rafale é o Saykieu-dô. Também é mestre em Ku-dô.

Eita E ainda tem doido que defende esse treco pra FAB, imagina na hora do combate como ele faria


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Immortal Horgh escreveu:Eita E ainda tem doido que defende esse treco pra FAB, imagina na hora do combate como ele faria


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Tem doido maior, acha que o Cacareco é o que dizem dele, só mesmo com muita Sputinik, essa gente acredita em Papai Noel. Deve ser a hora de vôo mais cara do planeta.

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soultrain escreveu:do key publishing:

And an article on EA&A (Hellenic Defense & Security) claims the RAFALEs actually performed very well.

To quote the article:
"According to the French aviators, the French fighter dominated the air combat. Initially it was reported that in the first missions the capabilities of the MICA missiles were underestimated by the oppossing team (meaning the Greek aviators flying F16's). Though both sides managed to perform succesful "hits" to their opponent".
"...Greek aviators were characterized by their French counterparts as very vicious in the air..."

Availability during the 18 sorties for the RAFALE was in the range of 90%.
Greek aviators were impressed with the situation awareness of the French fighters, as well as the SPECTRA and it's use along with operationla tactics in the French fighter doctrine of operation.

Essa notícia deve ser sobre a reportagem que havia sido publicada pela Revista Grega, aonde os F-16-50 levaram um surra. E 90% de disponibildiade, já os cacarecos russos, que o digam os AMARELÕES.

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soultrain escreveu:The Navy has (already) placed nine Rafales ‘in storage’

23/05/2008

The information, revealed by our excellent fellow-members Air Fan and Air and Cosmos, appears striking. The Aeronavale has indeed just placed nine of its Rafale aircraft ‘in storage’, confirmed to us by l'état-major de la Marine (the naval staff). It is said that they are de facto withdrawn from service.

These aircraft were perceived as very modern and very expensive at the beginning of the year 2000 and flotilla 12 F has been operational on this type for less than four years, since June 25, 2004 to be exact. Placing an aircraft in storage clearly means that one does not really need it for the moment. It’s funny that whereas the staffs worry about the cuts to come in the programs d' armament…

The Navy however have a good reason to act this way. The nine Rafales in question are the first machines of the series, of the F1 standard, with which l' Naval Aviation “wiped the plasters” (essuyé les plâtres – I’m sure someone can translate!). The more recently delivered aircraft are to the F2 standard. On the outside, the aircraft is almost identical, but "systems architectures are radically different" explained a specialist. F1 has certain air-to-air capabilities, whereas F2 has quite higher capabilities, in particular for air-to-ground attacks. The F3 standard, even more complete, is awaited from 2009.

The piloting and the maintenance of F1 and F2 are different. However, good management …. (my French isn’t up to this!) means that there will be 14 aircraft on line, all of one model.

At Landivisiau (Finistere) where the decision has been taken to store the Rafale F1s "for long a time" the aircraft will be housed in hangarettes (shelters) equipped with air-dryers. These planes will then be modernized and upgraded directly to the F3 standard.

Flotilla 12 F, the only unit of the Navy equipped with Rafale, today has twelve aircraft (including one deployed for tests at Mount-de-Marsan) and will have sixteen of them in the summer, not counting the nine stored.

Isso já não era novidade, os F-1 e depois os F-2, deverão sofrer upgrade para os F-3, e isso deixar transparecer que logo os F-3 estarão sendo entregues.

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Putz, essa de "deixa transparecer" foi phoda Prick.

Pois é, pior é sair falando que os flankeiros ficam viajando. Parece o ditado: o macaco senta no próprio r.... e desce a lenha no dos outros


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Que tarefa inglória a do Prick.

Só como parâmetro: o último Teorema de Fermat demorou 358 anos para ser provado, mas neste caso, o Prick pode passar a eternidade que nunca provará que o Rafale é nossa melhor opção.


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Immortal Horgh escreveu:Só como parâmetro: o último Teorema de Fermat demorou 358 anos para ser provado, mas neste caso, o Prick pode passar a eternidade que nunca provará que o Rafale é nossa melhor opção.


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VIXI! Os AMARELÕESestão com a corda toda, gostaramda nova camisa do Sr. Chavez? O Socialismo moreno adotou o amarelo ouro como nova cor.

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UAE eyes France's Rafale fighter

ABU DHABI (AFP) — The United Arab Emirates said on Thursday it was mulling replacing its fleet of French Mirage 2000 combat planes with the multi-role Rafale, which has yet to find an export market.

"The UAE is seriously considering replacing its fleet of Mirage 2000 combat planes with the French new generation Rafale fighter starting in 2013," an official was quoted by the state WAM news agency as saying.

"Discussions on this issue are under way between the UAE government and France," he said.

The official did not give more details but the oil-rich Gulf country's purchase of the Rafale would be a major boost for Dassault Aviation's fourth-generation combat jet.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy immediately welcomed the announcement as "good news for France.

"The United Arab Emirates has been using French weaponry for a long time," he said in a statement. "They are looking at the Rafale to replace their fleet of 63 Mirage 2000 planes."

He said there was "no fixed dates, nor have commercial negotiations begun" but added that "discussions will be held in the coming weeks."

"In case a contract is signed, the first planes can be delivered from 2012 onwards."

Dassault are also makers of the Mirage 2000-9 combat planes, which the UAE bought in 1998.

Abu Dhabi purchased 30 Mirage 2000-9 in a 3.2-billion-dollar deal which included the modernisation of 33 other Mirages.

France is a leading military supplier to the UAE, which bought more than 400 Leclerc tanks from French firm GIAT in 1994.

During a visit by Sarkozy to Abu Dhabi in January, the two countries signed a deal under which Paris will set up its first permanent military base in the UAE.

The base will be set up in Abu Dhabi, the wealthiest and largest of the UAE's seven emirates.

It is due to become operational in 2009 and will eventually host 400-500 French army, navy and air force personnel, French officials have said.

"It will be the first such French base in the Gulf and it will face the Strait of Hormuz," the strategic waterway through which much of the world's oil supplies pass, a French presidential source said in January.

Abu Dhabi and Paris are linked by a 1995 defence pact under which their armed forces conduct regular joint manoeuvres in the UAE.

Dassault has yet to find a foreign buyer for the Rafale, which can carry out interception and reconnaissance missions as well as nuclear strikes. The French aerospace group is in talks with Libya over a possible sale.

Talks had taken place with Saudi Arabia on a possible deal, but the Gulf oil powerhouse eventually opted for Britain's Eurofighter jets.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iPX ... cGjcCIKrLg

UAE in talks to buy new generation of fighter jets

* Last Updated: June 06. 2008 7:59PM UAE / June 6. 2008 3:59PM GMT

A Dassault Aviation built Rafale jet. The UAE said it was mulling replacing its fleet of French Mirage 2000 combat planes with the multi-role Rafale. AFP

ABU DHABI // The UAE is in talks with France to buy advanced Rafale fighter jets to replace its fleet of 63 Mirage 2000 planes, the Government has confirmed.

The WAM news agency said that preliminary discussions have been held on the potential purchase of a new generation of aircraft to replace the existing combat jets as of 2013.

“The UAE is seriously considering replacing its fleet of Mirage 2000 combat planes with the French new generation Rafale fighter starting in 2013,” an official said. “Discussions on this issue are under way between the UAE Government and France.”

A statement from the French president’s office on Thursday said commercial negotiations had not yet started and there was no timetable for a deal. It added that if an agreement was made, the first planes, which are built by Dassault Aviation, could be delivered in 2012.

“The discussions will continue in the weeks ahead,” President Nicolas Sarkozy’s office said. “The United Arab Emirates has been using French weaponry for a long time.”

The multi-role Rafale was developed and built at a cost of €28bn (Dh160.5bn) over the 20-year life of the programme including the cost of supplying 294 jets to the French navy and air force, but the project has struggled to find any foreign buyers.

Dassault are also makers of the Mirage 2000-9 combat planes, which the UAE bought in 1998.

The Government purchased 30 of the aircraft in an Dh11.8 billion deal which included the modernisation of 33 other Mirages.

France is a leading military supplier to the UAE, which bought more than 400 Leclerc tanks from French firm GIAT in 1994.

During a visit by Mr Sarkozy to Abu Dhabi in January, the two countries signed a deal under which Paris will set up its first permanent military base in the UAE.

The base will be set up in Abu Dhabi, the wealthiest and largest of the UAE’s seven emirates.

It is due to become operational in 2009 and will eventually host 400-500 French army, navy and air force personnel, French officials have said.

The Rafale was developed and built at a cost of €28bn (Dh160.5bn) over the 20-year life of the programme including the cost of supplying 294 jets to the French navy and air force, but the project has struggled to find any foreign buyers.

The jet can carry out interception and reconnaissance missions as well as nuclear strikes.

Talks had taken place with Saudi Arabia on a possible deal, but the Kingdom eventually opted for Britain’s Eurofighter jets.

The UAE air force is mainly equipped with French Mirage combat jets, also built by Dassault, and Lockheed Martin F-16 fighters from the US.

*Agencies and WAM

http://www.thenational.ae/article/20080 ... INESPECIAL

Em breve muitas células de Mirage 2000-9 no mercado... Com certeza serão disputadas a tapa!

Quantos mirage's -9 os Emirados possuem?