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O Uruguai está para o Brasil, assim como Taiwan está para China. Ainda vamos reconquistar aquele estado rebelde.
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Deixa isso pra lá Wesley, senão a gente acaba perdendo também as praias e os casinos de Montevidéu...
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FIGHTERCOM escreveu: ↑Sex Dez 09, 2022 5:06 pm O Uruguai está para o Brasil, assim como Taiwan está para China. Ainda vamos reconquistar aquele estado rebelde.
Abraços,
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Uma curiosidade: nos CTGs daqui (não sei como é nos dos outros estados e mesmo mundo afora, pois se tem um ditado verdadeiro é que, seja onde for, "junta meia dúzia de Gaúchos e a primeira coisa que fazem é fundar um CTG" ), geralmente nas charlas da Semana Farroupilha, sempre aparece um para citar o Uruguay como "o Rio Grande que deu certo", justamente por ter tido sucesso em se desvincular do Império.
Outra curiosidade é que, enquanto o resto do mundo considera os Argentinos como os "verdadeiros Gaúchos", nós e os Uruguayos nos reconhecemos mutuamente como isso, mas não aos Argentinos, os "tomadores de mate frio"; quem defende (sempre tem algum incauto) acaba ouvindo "então Paraguaio também é Gaúcho, porque o tererê deles é igualzinho ao dos qüeras" e vai ter que aguentar as risadas da tigrada...
Mas sério agora, o Uruguay, a rigor, pouco precisa de FFAA, daí não gastarem quase nada com Bld, navio de guerra e caça: está espremido entre dois gigantes, Brasil e Argentina, contra os quais nada pode; assim, as que tem são, como mencionei em outro post/tópico, apenas para manter a Unidade Nacional, tipo evitar alguma separatice que, para ser justo, nunca ouvi falar de haver interessados lá.
Outra curiosidade é que, enquanto o resto do mundo considera os Argentinos como os "verdadeiros Gaúchos", nós e os Uruguayos nos reconhecemos mutuamente como isso, mas não aos Argentinos, os "tomadores de mate frio"; quem defende (sempre tem algum incauto) acaba ouvindo "então Paraguaio também é Gaúcho, porque o tererê deles é igualzinho ao dos qüeras" e vai ter que aguentar as risadas da tigrada...
Mas sério agora, o Uruguay, a rigor, pouco precisa de FFAA, daí não gastarem quase nada com Bld, navio de guerra e caça: está espremido entre dois gigantes, Brasil e Argentina, contra os quais nada pode; assim, as que tem são, como mencionei em outro post/tópico, apenas para manter a Unidade Nacional, tipo evitar alguma separatice que, para ser justo, nunca ouvi falar de haver interessados lá.
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@Túlio ,Túlio escreveu: ↑Seg Dez 19, 2022 8:11 pmMas sério agora, o Uruguay, a rigor, pouco precisa de FFAA, daí não gastarem quase nada com Bld, navio de guerra e caça: está espremido entre dois gigantes, Brasil e Argentina, contra os quais nada pode; assim, as que tem são, como mencionei em outro post/tópico, apenas para manter a Unidade Nacional, tipo evitar alguma separatice que, para ser justo, nunca ouvi falar de haver interessados lá.FIGHTERCOM escreveu: ↑Sex Dez 09, 2022 5:06 pm O Uruguai está para o Brasil, assim como Taiwan está para China. Ainda vamos reconquistar aquele estado rebelde.
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Eu iria responder ontem, mas acabei esquecendo. Até entendo sua opinião, mas quando se vê Uruguai recebendo M-108 e até mesmo cogitando um substituto para os Cessna A-37 Dragonfly, das duas, uma: ou caras estão "investindo" de forma errada (porque mesmo doado, o M-108 vai sugar recursos que poderiam ser melhor aproveitados em outras áreas, como cobertura radar, por exemplo); ou o pensamento deles destoa de uma mera "polícia" unificadora.
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FIGHTERCOM escreveu: ↑Qua Dez 21, 2022 12:55 pm@Túlio ,Túlio escreveu: ↑Seg Dez 19, 2022 8:11 pm
Mas sério agora, o Uruguay, a rigor, pouco precisa de FFAA, daí não gastarem quase nada com Bld, navio de guerra e caça: está espremido entre dois gigantes, Brasil e Argentina, contra os quais nada pode; assim, as que tem são, como mencionei em outro post/tópico, apenas para manter a Unidade Nacional, tipo evitar alguma separatice que, para ser justo, nunca ouvi falar de haver interessados lá.
Eu iria responder ontem, mas acabei esquecendo. Até entendo sua opinião, mas quando se vê Uruguai recebendo M-108 e até mesmo cogitando um substituto para os Cessna A-37 Dragonfly, das duas, uma: ou caras estão "investindo" de forma errada (porque mesmo doado, o M-108 vai sugar recursos que poderiam ser melhor aproveitados em outras áreas, como cobertura radar, por exemplo); ou o pensamento deles destoa de uma mera "polícia" unificadora.
Abraços,
Wesley
Cupincha, esqueces que um Exército precisa também PARECER Exército: se é só Inf (Lv, Mtz, Mec e até Bld) então é GUARDA NACIONAL apenas (e para isso eles têm a Guardia Republicana, que inclusive possui blindados); assim se explica a "necessidade" de M-108 (inútil contra nosso M-109A5BR ou Palmaria 155 AP da Argentina), bem como Urutu, Cascavel, Jararaca, etc.
BTW, a "cogitação de substituto" pro A-37 (incluindo os KC-130 praticamente doados pela Espanha, ou seja, vão querer capacidade REVO) me aponta direto para alguns F-5 ou AMX que a FAB dê de baixa após receber suficientes Gripen para liberar umas dez unidades ou menos.
Sei lá, eis o que me parece: o presupuesto deles não é bem para COMPRAR, é mais para sustentar DOAÇÃO mesmo.
BTW, a "cogitação de substituto" pro A-37 (incluindo os KC-130 praticamente doados pela Espanha, ou seja, vão querer capacidade REVO) me aponta direto para alguns F-5 ou AMX que a FAB dê de baixa após receber suficientes Gripen para liberar umas dez unidades ou menos.
Sei lá, eis o que me parece: o presupuesto deles não é bem para COMPRAR, é mais para sustentar DOAÇÃO mesmo.
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Re: Marinha do Uruguai
na verdade o Uruguay não vale nada como a gauchada separatista... chupam agua morna com capim e andam com uma calça larga e uma faca na bunda...
a inglesada separou o joio do trigo....igual a Jordania dos hebreus.... os seljuks dos batiniks...
a inglesada separou o joio do trigo....igual a Jordania dos hebreus.... os seljuks dos batiniks...
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ÇEU.......COMUNAZZZZZZ!!!!
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Re: Marinha do Uruguai
Aquela pressão de leve do Tio Sam...
Incomprensible: Los viejos buques noruegos actualizados para la Armada de Uruguay costarían lo mismo que OPV nuevos
https://www.defensa.com/uruguay/incompr ... ara-armada
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China quiere rebajar por segunda vez el precio de sus OPV para la Armada Uruguaya
https://www.defensa.com/uruguay/china-q ... a-uruguaya
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Re: Marinha do Uruguai
Os primos ricos como sempre fazendo das suas no quintal deles.
Pelo menos aqui eles não vão precisar ser dar o mesmo trabalho. A marinha já faz isso sozinha.
Pelo menos aqui eles não vão precisar ser dar o mesmo trabalho. A marinha já faz isso sozinha.
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Mas segundo consta pelo menos os Uruguaios são hetero
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Uruguay to purchase brand new OPVs from Spanish shipyard
Tuesday, July 18th 2023 - 09:16 UTC
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García explained
Uruguay to purchase brand new OPVs from Spanish shipyard
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The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García explained
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García explained
Uruguayan authorities Monday announced they had placed an order for the purchase of two brand-new Ocean Patrol Vessels (OPV) from the Spanish shipyard Cardama for € 82 million, it was reported in Montevideo.
Defense Minister Javier García said that with this new acquisition, the Uruguayan Navy will have six new ships, the largest modernization of the force in many years.
García recalled that three ships were brought from the United States, and “what we are going to receive from the Republic of Korea, plus the two ocean patrol vessels, you have to go back to 91, where five ships entered the Navy to have, in this case, it is even greater, there are 6 ships, which are going to fulfill what we announced, we committed ourselves in the government program and announced on the first day here, which is the modernization of the National Navy.”
MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
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Uruguay to purchase brand new OPVs from Spanish shipyard
Tuesday, July 18th 2023 - 09:16 UTCFull article0 comments
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García explained
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García explained
Uruguayan authorities Monday announced they had placed an order for the purchase of two brand-new Ocean Patrol Vessels (OPV) from the Spanish shipyard Cardama for € 82 million, it was reported in Montevideo.
Defense Minister Javier García said that with this new acquisition, the Uruguayan Navy will have six new ships, the largest modernization of the force in many years.
García recalled that three ships were brought from the United States, and “what we are going to receive from the Republic of Korea, plus the two ocean patrol vessels, you have to go back to 91, where five ships entered the Navy to have, in this case, it is even greater, there are 6 ships, which are going to fulfill what we announced, we committed ourselves in the government program and announced on the first day here, which is the modernization of the National Navy.”
The three Marine Protector ships, purchased by the government from the United States, were added to the Uruguayan Navy in 2022. The government invested about US$5 million in these three vessels, including refit, spare parts package, equipment, and crew training.
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García also explained. They have a maximum speed of 24 knots and a capacity for about 80 crew members.
“Today the control of the maritime space was limited by the deterioration and age of the existing vessels in the country,” the minister added.
The Defense Ministry decided to acquire the vessels for technical reasons and based on the requirements set forth by the National Navy itself, such as the need for armament, a heliport, as well as other conditions for the fulfillment of the mission of caring for natural resources and the repression of illegal fishing.
The vessels were acquired through funds set aside in the National Corporation for Development (CND) and General Revenue and will be delivered by 2025.
The Spanish shipyard's offer was the lowest cost, out of a total of eight international bids. It was also the one with the fastest delivery date compared to its competitors.
The OPVs are modern and economical multipurpose vessels, which have a high degree of flexibility to carry out tasks at sea.
MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Uruguay signs green hydrogen deal with EU
Lacalle Pou urges swift action on EU-Mercosur Agreement: “Enough of 25 years of negotiations”
EU to invest € 45 billion in Latin America and Caribbean
Uruguay to purchase brand new OPVs from Spanish shipyard
Tuesday, July 18th 2023 - 09:16 UTCFull article0 comments
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García explained
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García explained
Uruguayan authorities Monday announced they had placed an order for the purchase of two brand-new Ocean Patrol Vessels (OPV) from the Spanish shipyard Cardama for € 82 million, it was reported in Montevideo.
Defense Minister Javier García said that with this new acquisition, the Uruguayan Navy will have six new ships, the largest modernization of the force in many years.
García recalled that three ships were brought from the United States, and “what we are going to receive from the Republic of Korea, plus the two ocean patrol vessels, you have to go back to 91, where five ships entered the Navy to have, in this case, it is even greater, there are 6 ships, which are going to fulfill what we announced, we committed ourselves in the government program and announced on the first day here, which is the modernization of the National Navy.”
The three Marine Protector ships, purchased by the government from the United States, were added to the Uruguayan Navy in 2022. The government invested about US$5 million in these three vessels, including refit, spare parts package, equipment, and crew training.
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García also explained. They have a maximum speed of 24 knots and a capacity for about 80 crew members.
“Today the control of the maritime space was limited by the deterioration and age of the existing vessels in the country,” the minister added.
The Defense Ministry decided to acquire the vessels for technical reasons and based on the requirements set forth by the National Navy itself, such as the need for armament, a heliport, as well as other conditions for the fulfillment of the mission of caring for natural resources and the repression of illegal fishing.
The vessels were acquired through funds set aside in the National Corporation for Development (CND) and General Revenue and will be delivered by 2025.
The Spanish shipyard's offer was the lowest cost, out of a total of eight international bids. It was also the one with the fastest delivery date compared to its competitors.
The OPVs are modern and economical multipurpose vessels, which have a high degree of flexibility to carry out tasks at sea.
https://en.mercopress.com/2023/07/18/ur ... h-shipyard
Tuesday, July 18th 2023 - 09:16 UTC
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García explained
Uruguay to purchase brand new OPVs from Spanish shipyard
Tuesday, July 18th 2023 - 09:16 UTCFull article0 comments
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García explained
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García explained
Uruguayan authorities Monday announced they had placed an order for the purchase of two brand-new Ocean Patrol Vessels (OPV) from the Spanish shipyard Cardama for € 82 million, it was reported in Montevideo.
Defense Minister Javier García said that with this new acquisition, the Uruguayan Navy will have six new ships, the largest modernization of the force in many years.
García recalled that three ships were brought from the United States, and “what we are going to receive from the Republic of Korea, plus the two ocean patrol vessels, you have to go back to 91, where five ships entered the Navy to have, in this case, it is even greater, there are 6 ships, which are going to fulfill what we announced, we committed ourselves in the government program and announced on the first day here, which is the modernization of the National Navy.”
MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Uruguay signs green hydrogen deal with EU
Lacalle Pou urges swift action on EU-Mercosur Agreement: “Enough of 25 years of negotiations”
EU to invest € 45 billion in Latin America and Caribbean
Uruguay to purchase brand new OPVs from Spanish shipyard
Tuesday, July 18th 2023 - 09:16 UTCFull article0 comments
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García explained
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García explained
Uruguayan authorities Monday announced they had placed an order for the purchase of two brand-new Ocean Patrol Vessels (OPV) from the Spanish shipyard Cardama for € 82 million, it was reported in Montevideo.
Defense Minister Javier García said that with this new acquisition, the Uruguayan Navy will have six new ships, the largest modernization of the force in many years.
García recalled that three ships were brought from the United States, and “what we are going to receive from the Republic of Korea, plus the two ocean patrol vessels, you have to go back to 91, where five ships entered the Navy to have, in this case, it is even greater, there are 6 ships, which are going to fulfill what we announced, we committed ourselves in the government program and announced on the first day here, which is the modernization of the National Navy.”
The three Marine Protector ships, purchased by the government from the United States, were added to the Uruguayan Navy in 2022. The government invested about US$5 million in these three vessels, including refit, spare parts package, equipment, and crew training.
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García also explained. They have a maximum speed of 24 knots and a capacity for about 80 crew members.
“Today the control of the maritime space was limited by the deterioration and age of the existing vessels in the country,” the minister added.
The Defense Ministry decided to acquire the vessels for technical reasons and based on the requirements set forth by the National Navy itself, such as the need for armament, a heliport, as well as other conditions for the fulfillment of the mission of caring for natural resources and the repression of illegal fishing.
The vessels were acquired through funds set aside in the National Corporation for Development (CND) and General Revenue and will be delivered by 2025.
The Spanish shipyard's offer was the lowest cost, out of a total of eight international bids. It was also the one with the fastest delivery date compared to its competitors.
The OPVs are modern and economical multipurpose vessels, which have a high degree of flexibility to carry out tasks at sea.
MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Uruguay signs green hydrogen deal with EU
Lacalle Pou urges swift action on EU-Mercosur Agreement: “Enough of 25 years of negotiations”
EU to invest € 45 billion in Latin America and Caribbean
Uruguay to purchase brand new OPVs from Spanish shipyard
Tuesday, July 18th 2023 - 09:16 UTCFull article0 comments
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García explained
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García explained
Uruguayan authorities Monday announced they had placed an order for the purchase of two brand-new Ocean Patrol Vessels (OPV) from the Spanish shipyard Cardama for € 82 million, it was reported in Montevideo.
Defense Minister Javier García said that with this new acquisition, the Uruguayan Navy will have six new ships, the largest modernization of the force in many years.
García recalled that three ships were brought from the United States, and “what we are going to receive from the Republic of Korea, plus the two ocean patrol vessels, you have to go back to 91, where five ships entered the Navy to have, in this case, it is even greater, there are 6 ships, which are going to fulfill what we announced, we committed ourselves in the government program and announced on the first day here, which is the modernization of the National Navy.”
The three Marine Protector ships, purchased by the government from the United States, were added to the Uruguayan Navy in 2022. The government invested about US$5 million in these three vessels, including refit, spare parts package, equipment, and crew training.
The Spanish-built OPVs “will have the mission of recovering control of the maritime space,” García also explained. They have a maximum speed of 24 knots and a capacity for about 80 crew members.
“Today the control of the maritime space was limited by the deterioration and age of the existing vessels in the country,” the minister added.
The Defense Ministry decided to acquire the vessels for technical reasons and based on the requirements set forth by the National Navy itself, such as the need for armament, a heliport, as well as other conditions for the fulfillment of the mission of caring for natural resources and the repression of illegal fishing.
The vessels were acquired through funds set aside in the National Corporation for Development (CND) and General Revenue and will be delivered by 2025.
The Spanish shipyard's offer was the lowest cost, out of a total of eight international bids. It was also the one with the fastest delivery date compared to its competitors.
The OPVs are modern and economical multipurpose vessels, which have a high degree of flexibility to carry out tasks at sea.
https://en.mercopress.com/2023/07/18/ur ... h-shipyard
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Re: Marinha do Uruguai
Prezados colegas, saudações.
Peço a gentileza de analisarem as capacidades dos OPV's em referência x investimento de aquisição. Comento este fato porque na apresentação do projeto NAPA 5OO BR pela EMGEPRON foi mencionado um valor em torno de USD 35 milhões para cada navio.
Uruguai comprará dois novos OPVs de estaleiro espanhol por € 82 milhões
https://www.naval.com.br/blog/2023/07/1 ... 2-milhoes/
Sds
Peço a gentileza de analisarem as capacidades dos OPV's em referência x investimento de aquisição. Comento este fato porque na apresentação do projeto NAPA 5OO BR pela EMGEPRON foi mencionado um valor em torno de USD 35 milhões para cada navio.
Uruguai comprará dois novos OPVs de estaleiro espanhol por € 82 milhões
https://www.naval.com.br/blog/2023/07/1 ... 2-milhoes/
Sds
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Uruguay y el astillero español Cardama firmaron el contrato de compra por dos nuevos patrulleros oceánicos para la Armada Nacional
https://www.zona-militar.com/2023/12/15 ... -nacional/
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