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Lembrar que este mesmo sistema RCH 155 também possui versão montada sobre caminhão, que pode ser qualquer veículo na classe de 10 ton para cima. No caso, eu já vi fotos dele montado em um Iveco Trakker 8x8 blindado.
Mais um candidato interessante para a VBC OAP 155
E tem também o HX-3 para quem pode.
Mais um candidato interessante para a VBC OAP 155
E tem também o HX-3 para quem pode.
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Bem ao nosso estilo. Bom, nem tão bonito assim, e essencialmente barato.
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Israel testing prototype of 10x10 Roem Sigma as successor of its M109 self-propelled howitzers
Israel Defensa tweeted on November 12 that images were broadcasted showing tests carried on with one of the prototypes of Elbit Systems’ 155mm 10x10 Roem (Sigma), the vehicle that will replace the hundreds of M109s in the Israel Artillery Corps in the coming years. Each Roem will have the fire capacity of four M109s.
The Roem/Sigma 155 mm self-propelled howitzer is based on a modified American-made Oshkosh 10x10 military truck chassis with an armored cabin at the front that can provide ballistic and mine protection for the crew. (Picture source: screenshot tweeted by Israel Defensa)
On January 9, 2022, Army Recognition published that the first picture of the Israeli-made Sigma 155mm 10x10 wheeled self-propelled howitzer has been released on the Twitter account of Caesar (@Ninja998998). The Sigma is a new generation of 155mm 10x10 wheeled self-propelled howitzer designed and developed by the Israeli company Elbit Systems.
In August 2021, Army Recognition reported that Elbit Systems had developed a new truck-mounted 155mm self-propelled howitzer to meet a need of the Israeli army. Nowadays, wheeled howitzers become very popular for all armies in the world offering the advantage of being lighter and more easily deployable by fast reaction units using military transport aircraft. It also offers a high level of mobility and simplified logistics.
The Roem/Sigma 155 mm self-propelled howitzer is based on a modified American-made Oshkosh 10x10 military truck chassis with an armored cabin at the front that can provide ballistic and mine protection for the crew.
The rear part of the Sigma is fitted with a turret-mounted artillery system consisting of a 155 mm/52 caliber barrel with a fully automatic loading system.
According to Janes, the Sigma is equipped with a remotely-controlled automatic loading system that sets the fuze and loads the projectile; the Uni-Modular Artillery Charge System (UMACS) with the primers will then be automatically loaded via a separate magazine.
The vehicle has a crew of three. Depending on the mission, SIGMA is capable of automatically selecting and loading the required projectile, propellant and fuze and laying the gun to optimally engage targets. According to Janes' website, the Sigma is equipped with a remotely-controlled weapon station including an automatic loading system that sets the fuze, and loads the projectile; the Uni-Modular Artillery Charge System (UMACS) with the primers will be automatically loaded via a separate magazine.
In November 2021, Elbit Systems announced a contract valued at approximately $106 million to supply Sigmas to an undisclosed country in Asia-Pacific.
Roem/Sigma 155 mm self-propelled howitzer is based on a modified American-made Oshkosh 10x10 military truck chassis with an armored cabin at the front that can provide ballistic and mine protection for the crew. (Picture source: screenshot tweeted by Israel Defensa)
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense ... tzers.html
Israel Defensa tweeted on November 12 that images were broadcasted showing tests carried on with one of the prototypes of Elbit Systems’ 155mm 10x10 Roem (Sigma), the vehicle that will replace the hundreds of M109s in the Israel Artillery Corps in the coming years. Each Roem will have the fire capacity of four M109s.
The Roem/Sigma 155 mm self-propelled howitzer is based on a modified American-made Oshkosh 10x10 military truck chassis with an armored cabin at the front that can provide ballistic and mine protection for the crew. (Picture source: screenshot tweeted by Israel Defensa)
On January 9, 2022, Army Recognition published that the first picture of the Israeli-made Sigma 155mm 10x10 wheeled self-propelled howitzer has been released on the Twitter account of Caesar (@Ninja998998). The Sigma is a new generation of 155mm 10x10 wheeled self-propelled howitzer designed and developed by the Israeli company Elbit Systems.
In August 2021, Army Recognition reported that Elbit Systems had developed a new truck-mounted 155mm self-propelled howitzer to meet a need of the Israeli army. Nowadays, wheeled howitzers become very popular for all armies in the world offering the advantage of being lighter and more easily deployable by fast reaction units using military transport aircraft. It also offers a high level of mobility and simplified logistics.
The Roem/Sigma 155 mm self-propelled howitzer is based on a modified American-made Oshkosh 10x10 military truck chassis with an armored cabin at the front that can provide ballistic and mine protection for the crew.
The rear part of the Sigma is fitted with a turret-mounted artillery system consisting of a 155 mm/52 caliber barrel with a fully automatic loading system.
According to Janes, the Sigma is equipped with a remotely-controlled automatic loading system that sets the fuze and loads the projectile; the Uni-Modular Artillery Charge System (UMACS) with the primers will then be automatically loaded via a separate magazine.
The vehicle has a crew of three. Depending on the mission, SIGMA is capable of automatically selecting and loading the required projectile, propellant and fuze and laying the gun to optimally engage targets. According to Janes' website, the Sigma is equipped with a remotely-controlled weapon station including an automatic loading system that sets the fuze, and loads the projectile; the Uni-Modular Artillery Charge System (UMACS) with the primers will be automatically loaded via a separate magazine.
In November 2021, Elbit Systems announced a contract valued at approximately $106 million to supply Sigmas to an undisclosed country in Asia-Pacific.
Roem/Sigma 155 mm self-propelled howitzer is based on a modified American-made Oshkosh 10x10 military truck chassis with an armored cabin at the front that can provide ballistic and mine protection for the crew. (Picture source: screenshot tweeted by Israel Defensa)
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense ... tzers.html
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Dando uma olhada mais de perto no MORANA.
Não sei se os colegas notaram, mas, a miríade de sistemas AP SR com carregamento automático está em plena expansão nos últimos anos.
Vários projetos, dentre novos e modernizados, tem mostrado detalhes como a diminuição da tripulação de 5 ou 6 efetivos para apenas 3 e até 2 efetivos para a operação completa destes sistemas.
A ver se não é o caso de uma mero modismo ou se é é de fato a evolução definitiva para a artilharia AR SR, que nasceu décadas atrás mas só alcançou importância e destaque apenas recentemente.
E tais sistemas automáticos, creio, devem deixar para trás outros que operam ainda sob prismas mais antigos.
Será que o EB se empolga com tantas novidades para a sua VBCOAP SR ou vamos continuar apostando no velho e bom princípio do bom, nem tão bonito assim e essencialmente barato
Não sei se os colegas notaram, mas, a miríade de sistemas AP SR com carregamento automático está em plena expansão nos últimos anos.
Vários projetos, dentre novos e modernizados, tem mostrado detalhes como a diminuição da tripulação de 5 ou 6 efetivos para apenas 3 e até 2 efetivos para a operação completa destes sistemas.
A ver se não é o caso de uma mero modismo ou se é é de fato a evolução definitiva para a artilharia AR SR, que nasceu décadas atrás mas só alcançou importância e destaque apenas recentemente.
E tais sistemas automáticos, creio, devem deixar para trás outros que operam ainda sob prismas mais antigos.
Será que o EB se empolga com tantas novidades para a sua VBCOAP SR ou vamos continuar apostando no velho e bom princípio do bom, nem tão bonito assim e essencialmente barato
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A ver se toda essa automatização dos novos obuseiros AP SR é apenas mais um modismo ou se veio para ficar.cabeça de martelo escreveu: ↑Qui Nov 17, 2022 9:40 am Israel testing prototype of 10x10 Roem Sigma as successor of its M109 self-propelled howitzers
Israel Defensa tweeted on November 12 that images were broadcasted showing tests carried on with one of the prototypes of Elbit Systems’ 155mm 10x10 Roem (Sigma), the vehicle that will replace the hundreds of M109s in the Israel Artillery Corps in the coming years. Each Roem will have the fire capacity of four M109s.
E no caso do SIGMA, além do carregamento automático, que mais ele se destaca do ATMOS para fazer os israelenses gastarem tufas de dinheiro para substituir objetivamente os M-109
Até o momento, o projeto ainda está muito cru para podermos dizer se ele é uma bom investimento ou não.
Mas já começa quebrando paradigmas, que é substituir um obuseiro sobre lagartas por um baseado em pneus.
Deve ter gente no EB muito excitada, e outros crentes que isso é uma tremenda bisonhice dos israelenses.
Mas por cá, a artilharia divisionária aparentemente está em vista de ter seus M-114 ou M-109 substituídos pelos futuros VBCOAP SR.
Que será que os artilheiros andam pensando...
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Não é o único país a descartar os M109 em favor de uma solução a rodas.
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Quais seriam os outros meu caro @cabeça de martelocabeça de martelo escreveu: ↑Sex Nov 18, 2022 11:56 am Não é o único país a descartar os M109 em favor de uma solução a rodas.
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Notar a velocidade de trabalho do carregador automático do Roem\SIGMA da Elbit.
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Everything you need to know about “SH-15 Howitzer”
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KMW and Elbit Systems intensify Rocket Artillery Cooperation
After having signed an MoU (Memorandum of Understanding in June this year, Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW), Ulm based defence company Elbit Systems Deutschland and Elbit Systems Land have agreed to intensify their strategic cooperation.
Background is the modernisation and the capability extension of the European Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS / MARS II). Elbit provides a modern effector portfolio, to fully comply with the MLRS-User demands from extended range rockets to new training ammunition which will enable the user to “train as you fight” on national proving grounds.
KMW and Elbit have established the concept “Euro-PULS” for the next generation European Long Range Rocket Artillery as the successor system for the MLRS. This concept has already been offered to the first European customers. The Euro-PULS system is based on Elbit Systems’ operational and in-service Multi-Purpose Universal Launching System (PULS) and a range of precision guided munitions. KMW complements the Euro-PULS with decades of know-how as system house and vast experience in building and customizing (rocket) artillery systems complying European standards. This provides the capability to integrate every rocket according to User’s requirements. Both companies envision a local rocket production to ensure Europe’s independence.
This means a Future Rocket Artillery System made in Europe.
Yehuda (Udi) Vered, General Manager of Elbit System Land, commented: “I am confident that the Euro-PULS will provide effective and timely solution for both the operational and industrial needs of European countries. I am encouraged by the level of interest this initiative is already drawing from European and NATO countries.”
“I welcome the cooperation with Elbit. In this partnership, we see a chance to underline the potential of our artillery capabilities. The potential opportunities allow KMW to become one of the most modern system houses for rocket artillery”, comments Ralf Ketzel, Chairman of the KMW Management Board.
Elbit Systems Deutschland is a leading system provider of sensor technology, radio communication, guidance systems, Electronic Warfare systems, unmanned systems and cyber security. Elbit Systems Deutschland product portfolio, from development to production and support in the field, meets the current and future requirements of the German Armed Forces and German security authorities. The company operates in Ulm, Koblenz and Berlin. More information is available at www.elbitsystems-de.com.
Krauss-Maffei Wegmann, a member of the German-French defense technology group KNDS, leads the European market for highly protected wheeled and tracked vehicles. At locations in Germany, Brazil, Greece, Hungary, Singapore, the United Kingdom and the USA more than 4.000 employees develop, manufacture and support a product portfolio ranging from air-transportable, highly protected wheeled vehicles through reconnaissance, anti-aircraft and artillery systems to main battle tanks, infantry fighting vehicles* and bridge-laying systems. In addition, KMW has wide-ranging system competence in the area of civil and military simulation, as well as in command and information systems and remote-controlled weapon stations with reconnaissance and observation equipment. The armed forces of more than 50 nations worldwide rely on tactical systems by KMW.
*Joint Venture with national and international partners.
Unless otherwise indicated, all products are registered trademarks of Krauss-Maffei Wegmann GmbH & Co. KG
https://elbitsystems.com/pr-new/kmw-and ... operation/
After having signed an MoU (Memorandum of Understanding in June this year, Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW), Ulm based defence company Elbit Systems Deutschland and Elbit Systems Land have agreed to intensify their strategic cooperation.
Background is the modernisation and the capability extension of the European Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS / MARS II). Elbit provides a modern effector portfolio, to fully comply with the MLRS-User demands from extended range rockets to new training ammunition which will enable the user to “train as you fight” on national proving grounds.
KMW and Elbit have established the concept “Euro-PULS” for the next generation European Long Range Rocket Artillery as the successor system for the MLRS. This concept has already been offered to the first European customers. The Euro-PULS system is based on Elbit Systems’ operational and in-service Multi-Purpose Universal Launching System (PULS) and a range of precision guided munitions. KMW complements the Euro-PULS with decades of know-how as system house and vast experience in building and customizing (rocket) artillery systems complying European standards. This provides the capability to integrate every rocket according to User’s requirements. Both companies envision a local rocket production to ensure Europe’s independence.
This means a Future Rocket Artillery System made in Europe.
Yehuda (Udi) Vered, General Manager of Elbit System Land, commented: “I am confident that the Euro-PULS will provide effective and timely solution for both the operational and industrial needs of European countries. I am encouraged by the level of interest this initiative is already drawing from European and NATO countries.”
“I welcome the cooperation with Elbit. In this partnership, we see a chance to underline the potential of our artillery capabilities. The potential opportunities allow KMW to become one of the most modern system houses for rocket artillery”, comments Ralf Ketzel, Chairman of the KMW Management Board.
Elbit Systems Deutschland is a leading system provider of sensor technology, radio communication, guidance systems, Electronic Warfare systems, unmanned systems and cyber security. Elbit Systems Deutschland product portfolio, from development to production and support in the field, meets the current and future requirements of the German Armed Forces and German security authorities. The company operates in Ulm, Koblenz and Berlin. More information is available at www.elbitsystems-de.com.
Krauss-Maffei Wegmann, a member of the German-French defense technology group KNDS, leads the European market for highly protected wheeled and tracked vehicles. At locations in Germany, Brazil, Greece, Hungary, Singapore, the United Kingdom and the USA more than 4.000 employees develop, manufacture and support a product portfolio ranging from air-transportable, highly protected wheeled vehicles through reconnaissance, anti-aircraft and artillery systems to main battle tanks, infantry fighting vehicles* and bridge-laying systems. In addition, KMW has wide-ranging system competence in the area of civil and military simulation, as well as in command and information systems and remote-controlled weapon stations with reconnaissance and observation equipment. The armed forces of more than 50 nations worldwide rely on tactical systems by KMW.
*Joint Venture with national and international partners.
Unless otherwise indicated, all products are registered trademarks of Krauss-Maffei Wegmann GmbH & Co. KG
https://elbitsystems.com/pr-new/kmw-and ... operation/
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Colocar torres automáticas no teto de caminhões tem se tornado recorrente na Europa e USA. No Brasil essa moda ainda demora a chegar. Até porque, nem blindados os caminhões por aqui são, a não ser a família do Astros 2020.
Que aliás, poderia ser uma boa forma de darmos um pontapé inicial a esta alternativa. Afinal, o valor de um único caminhão do ASTROS 2020 paga várias centenas de Remax IV que se ponha nele.
Só acho que o modelo da ARES é grande demais, como visto nos LMV. Talvez um modelo menor e mais leve com uma metralhadora 7,62 pudesse ser mais flexível.
O DPF comprou um modelo espanhol para colocar nos seus novos bldos.
Por outro lado, a própria ARES poderia desenvolver um reparo menor, mais barato e mais simples de operar para dispor ao mercado de mais esta alternativa. Os israelenses na verdade já possuem tal modelo. Seria o caso de casar o útil com o agradável.
Que aliás, poderia ser uma boa forma de darmos um pontapé inicial a esta alternativa. Afinal, o valor de um único caminhão do ASTROS 2020 paga várias centenas de Remax IV que se ponha nele.
Só acho que o modelo da ARES é grande demais, como visto nos LMV. Talvez um modelo menor e mais leve com uma metralhadora 7,62 pudesse ser mais flexível.
O DPF comprou um modelo espanhol para colocar nos seus novos bldos.
Por outro lado, a própria ARES poderia desenvolver um reparo menor, mais barato e mais simples de operar para dispor ao mercado de mais esta alternativa. Os israelenses na verdade já possuem tal modelo. Seria o caso de casar o útil com o agradável.
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The best in its class: BORAN 105mm Towed Howitzer
BORAN Fire Control System qualification tests have been successfully completed.
The qualification tests of the BORAN 105mm Air Portable Light Towed Howitzer Fire Control System were successfully completed with the shots made in Konya Karapınar. BORAN Fire Control System is a fire control system developed for use in a lightweight, high firepower 105mm BORAN howitzer that can be transported from air by helicopter, towed by road.
https://en.defenceturk.net/the-best-in- ... -howitzer/
A pergunta que fica é: por quê não
O que se vai gastar hoje em modernizações de veículos antigos e que não oferecem a melhor relação custo x benefício poderia ser investido em sistemas realmente modernos e que agregariam soluções para as OM de artilharia e para a BID conjuntamente. Investir no longo prazo é hoje a melhor escolha, e não ficar olhando para trás.
BORAN Fire Control System qualification tests have been successfully completed.
The qualification tests of the BORAN 105mm Air Portable Light Towed Howitzer Fire Control System were successfully completed with the shots made in Konya Karapınar. BORAN Fire Control System is a fire control system developed for use in a lightweight, high firepower 105mm BORAN howitzer that can be transported from air by helicopter, towed by road.
https://en.defenceturk.net/the-best-in- ... -howitzer/
A pergunta que fica é: por quê não
O que se vai gastar hoje em modernizações de veículos antigos e que não oferecem a melhor relação custo x benefício poderia ser investido em sistemas realmente modernos e que agregariam soluções para as OM de artilharia e para a BID conjuntamente. Investir no longo prazo é hoje a melhor escolha, e não ficar olhando para trás.
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França, Dinamarca e penso que outros, mas estou a escrever de memória.FCarvalho escreveu: ↑Sex Nov 18, 2022 3:32 pmQuais seriam os outros meu caro @cabeça de martelocabeça de martelo escreveu: ↑Sex Nov 18, 2022 11:56 am Não é o único país a descartar os "M109" em favor de uma solução a rodas.