TÓPICO OFICIAL DO FX-2: GRIPEN NG

[FCarvalho]

Suponho que no pós 2024 com os esquadrões de Gripen E/F totalmente operacionais e com uma lista de verificação em mãos a SAAB vai poder definir mais claramente o que será feito em termos de road map.
Tanto a FAB quanto a força aérea sueca vão precisar desse tempo para saber até onde vai as capacidades reais do novo caça a partir da rampa.
Se nós não ficarmos apenas no lote inicial, é as exportações tiverem sucesso, vai haver muitos dados para serem analisados.
E o principal, uma demanda é mercado que justifiquem o investimento.

Abs

[knigh7]

link de uma das palestras que houve no Gripen Seminar 2019, ocorrida da India:


Avionics That Is Ready For Future

https://gripenblogs.com/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=2090

[knigh7]

[knigh7]

[knigh7]

Outro apresentação disponibilizada do Gripen Seminar 2019:

An Advanced Combat System For A Rapidly Changing World

https://gripenblogs.com/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=2094

[Frederico Vitor]

Interview with a Gripen pilot



Tiny, smart and capable, the Swedish Gripen C is a bantamweight fighter aircraft with a big punch. The Gripen E now in development is a bigger aircraft, close in weight to the F-16. We spoke to SAAB test pilot Jonas Jakobsson about flying a machine that emphasises brains over brawn.

Gripen is a fascinating aircraft, lambasted by the Swiss air force evaluation and loved by its pilots and operators, it does things in a different way. Connectivity, situational awareness and other boring sounding concepts are prioritised over power and speed, resulting in a machine that is cheap to operate and capable of delivering nasty surprises to opponents that underestimate it. Though only around 250 Gripens have been built since production begun in 1987 it has earned Saab an excellent reputation as one of the few aircraft manufacturers that stay close to running timely projects on budget (a key reason for Boeing choosing to partner with Saab for its winning T-X trainer). But is its good reputation just another example of Sweden’s slickness in public relations? Over to Jonas Jakobsson.



Qual o seu nome, posto, unidade e horas no Gripen C?

“Meu nome é Jonas Jakobsson e sou major (ret.) E atualmente sou piloto de testes experimental trabalhando na SAAB. Eu voei bem mais de 1000h no Gripen. ”

Quais outros tipos de aeronaves você voou?

“Durante o treinamento da Força Aérea eu voei Beagle Bulldog (SK61) e SAAB 105 (SK60). Minha primeira aeronave como piloto operacional foi a versão de ataque de Viggen (AJ-37) que mais tarde foi atualizada para o AJS-37, indicando que também tinha capacidade de reconhecimento. Eu também voei com Lansen, Draken e todas as outras versões do Viggen. Durante minha carreira como piloto de testes, também voei vários helicópteros, lutadores e treinadores ”.

Quais foram as primeiras impressões do Gripen?

“Aquilo era um avião de verdade. Eu realmente senti que lidar com a aeronave até a borda do envelope permitido foi facilitado pelo sistema de controle de vôo. A forma como a informação foi fundida e apresentada também foi muito intuitiva. Esta tem sido uma marca registrada das aeronaves SAAB por um longo tempo. Eu acho que muito devido ao fato de que os lutadores suecos são tradicionalmente sós. Uma boa Interface Homem-Máquina compensou o segundo piloto… ”



How would you rate the Gripen in the following categories:

A. Instantaneous Turn rates

B. Sustained turn rates

C. Acceleration

D. Climb rate

E. Range

“Without mentioning specific numbers since this would be classified I would like to expand the question a bit. We have built Gripen to achieve the highest possible operational effect in a number of scenarios defined by our customers. To do this we have to balance a number of factors such as platform performance, sensor performance, weapon performance, avionics, Human Machine Interface etc. The classic metaphor stating that a chain isn’t stronger than its weakest link is relevant for fighters as well! So the answer would be; platform performance is as good as or better than what is needed to reach the high overall operational effect demand of a future fighter.”

“Gripen is a bit of an unknown quantity against modern air superiority machines because it takes a fundamentally different approach to survivability. Whilst in traditional DACT exercises, Typhoon pilots have often referred to the Gripen as ‘cannon-fodder’ due to its inferior thrust-to-weight ratio, speed, agility and armament, in the few cases where the Gripen has ‘come to play’ with its full electronic warfare capabilities, it has given Typhoons very nasty shocks. Against the Su-35S, Gripen would rely on the cutting edge EW capabilities which Saab builds the Gripen (especially the new E/F) around to hide the aircraft from the sensors of the Russian jets in much the same way as the Raptor relies on x-band stealth. These EW capabilities are so highly classified that there is simply no way to assess their effectiveness in the public domain. Having said that, RAF pilots who I have talked to with experience of the Saab fighter’s EW teeth first hand say that the ability of the aircraft to get alarmingly close without detection thanks entirely to EW is very impressive.” The answer that modern air combat has greater emphasis on fighting at a distance is not just an avoidant answer, but if the Gripen was a very energetic aircraft Saab would be keen to share this, as Eurofighter is with the Typhoon. It is however understood that Gripen has a particularly good instantaneous turn rate. )

What are the best and worst aspects of the Gripen?

“I personally thoroughly enjoy the incredibly well designed HMI which makes it possible for me as a pilot to process enormous amounts of information and really interpret the tactical relevance of this information. The worst aspect of Gripen to me personally is that we are building such a fantastic and futuristic system but it is all on the inside so to speak. This makes it all a bit abstract and difficult to explain the full potential of the aircraft.”

How would a Gripen do in the following against a Block 52 F-16?

A. WVR combat

B. BVR combat

C. Situational awareness

E. maintainability- cost of ownership?

“Generally we stay away from direct comparisons but if I were to compare Gripen to other fighters in general I would say that I have already touched on one of the subjects you ask about. Situational awareness in Gripen E is outstanding! All the way from the sensor suite (radar, IRST, missile approach warner, radar warner etc), the local fusion of sensor data in every Gripen, the global fusion of data shared within the tactical air unit (and C2) and via the HMI with the elaborate symbology and wide area display. This information chain and the situational awareness it creates is rally the foundation that all fighting rests on. With this said it comes as no surprise that I think that Gripen helps me as a pilot to perform really well in both BVR and WVR.

The Swedish defense traditionally relied heavily on conscript personnel for tasks such as aircraft line maintenance. The operational doctrine of the Swedish air force also included operating from dispersed bases, basically a runway in the forest with no workshops or hangars. These two facts have been part of our design-genome for many years now. The result is that Gripen is very easy to maintain and also very fast to turn around between sorties. Generally we say that time for turnaround between two air-to-air sorties is done in 10 minutes and that is including both refueling and rearming! Ease of maintenance i.e. few hours to fix a potential problem and long mean time between failure add up to a high availability and low cost of ownership.”

Just how good is the Meteor-armed Gripen at BVR combat? Has it a big enough radar to take full advantage?

“Absolutely! The radar is well balanced with the weapon reach. But the radar is far from the only source of information we use to get target data…”

(By this I understand he is referring to the other sensors and information data-linked to the aircraft from off-board sources.)

What is your most memorable mission?



“A number of sorties comes to mind, my first display with the SwAF display team, my very first solo sortie at the air force academy, QRA sorties during the cold war when the Baltic was buzzing with activity or when I got to bring my children up in a jet trainer. But if I had to pick one sortie I think it would be something very different. About 10 years ago I was assigned to 2 Squadron in the South African Air force. My mission was to train the first South African group of pilots on Gripen. After a successful training and 18 months in the country I was about to move back to Sweden. One final sortie remained. It was a night flight and the weather was fantastic with stars everywhere. I spent that hour and a half cruising among the stars and contemplating what a fantastic job I have. When heading back to home base the mission controller greeted me with a cheerful “welcome back to earth sir”. I think the combination of a beautiful scenario and the end of a great mission all added up and made it a very emotional sortie.”

What is the biggest myth about Gripen?



“Actually haven’t heard so much negative. Maybe people are too polite to tell me. But I think one might be that a lot of people have the conception that Gripen E only is a slight upgrade to Gripen C because of their similarities in appearance. Nothing could more wrong! It is a totally new aircraft, albeit based on the same general aerodynamic design as Gripen C.”

One Typhoon pilot described Gripen as ‘easy meat’, how would Gripen perform in BFM against the following types? Typhoon, Rafale, Hornet, MiG-29 and F-22.

“Again no direct comparison but as I said above, the one with the best information wins the fight. It’s been a fact since world war one and still is. The only difference is how the information is gathered. In the old days looking with your eyes, today and in the future sensors and fusion of sensor data. The classic BFM I would say is no more and if you try it you die. In a world of high of boresight missiles, such as IRIS-T, data-link cueing and helmet mounted displays the within visual range fight looks more and more like a mini-BVR fight.”



What should I have asked you?

“What’s the best thing about being a Gripen test pilot?

The possibility to influence the future design and functionality of Gripen. I think all fighter pilots can relate to this. During training and operational use of the aircraft every pilot formulates his/her ideas of how to improve the design and functionality and now I really get to this. It’s also a huge responsibility. It’s important that I can meet fellow pilots in the air force and feel that we met their demands and built the most pilot friendly and operationally efficient aircraft possible.”



What equipment would you like to see integrated into Gripen?

“Weirdly enough I will answer more computer power and unlimited broad band data-links. I think this is the key to success in a future scenario. The things you can do with computational power and data sharing is astounding and we are a good way down that path with Gripen E but you always want more. Luckily some clever engineer foresaw this and designed the avionics to be basically plug and play with both new software and hardware!”



Thoughts on Gripen

Politics is the biggest decider in arms deals, so what are the political advantages of going Swedish? One may be that for some nations it is a less inflammatory move than purchasing from the US and Russia. But is the Gripen independent from the US? In the past the US has beat down potential rivals to its commercial dominance by refusing export licences (something it may have done in the 1990s with AMRAAM during the search for the next Finnish fighter). Though Gripen E will have European missiles (Meteor & IRIS-T) and radar — it has a US-licensed engine and will probably use US guided munitions (Paveway and JDAM) as well as a US or Israeli targeting pod. Also despite Saab’s streamline, unbloated, approach to manufacturing – can spare parts for an aircraft produced in tiny numbers in an expensive country be cheap?

Gripen E is likely to be far cheaper to operate than the F-35 and is likely to be the only aircraft offering comparable levels of situational awareness in the near term. This is a big plus, and this is combined with the already operational long range air-to-air Meteor missile. If Saab can keep the Gripen E price down, and a suitable political climate prevails, it should find more customers, even in a massively over-saturated market.

FONTE: https://hushkit.net/2019/03/18/intervie ... pen-pilot/

[Guilherme]

Assembly of first Brazilian Gripen NG advances

Victor Barreira, Rio de Janeiro - Jane's Defence Weekly
01 March 2019

The first of 36 Brazilian Gripen NG multirole jets (also known as the F-39 E/F Gripen in the Brazilian Air Force) is in final assembly at the Saab facility in Linköping, the company told Jane’s on 28 February.

The single-seat flight test instrumentation (FTI) aircraft will be delivered to start the flight test campaign in Linköping during 2019. The aircraft is currently undergoing installation of the avionics, auxiliary power unit, engine, radar, canards, canopy, and windshield.

The Commander of the Brazilian Air Force, Lieutenant-Brigadier Antonio Carlos Moretti Bermudez, was briefed on the FX-2 programme by Håkan Buskhe, president and CEO of Saab, on 26 February.

https://www.janes.com/article/86960/ass ... g-advances

[arcanjo]

29 de março de 2019
Saab pronta para acelerar o ritmo de testes do Gripen E
A Saab deve elevar significativamente o ritmo de seu programa de testes de voo para o caça Gripen E este ano, com a atividade a ser expandida de duas aeronaves atuais para cinco


Saab Gripen E 39-8

Dois protótipos, designados 39-8 e 39-9, já estão envolvidos na campanha do fabricante sueco. Um terceiro exemplar (39-10) vai voar antes do meio do ano, enquanto a Saab também deverá retomar o uso da estrutura do “Gripen Demo” – um aparelho de dois lugares especialmente adaptado – em apoio ao programa. Seu primeiro exemplar de produção também apoiará o programa a partir do final deste ano, antes que as primeiras entregas sejam feitas às forças aéreas sueca e brasileira até o final de 2019.

“O programa de testes está realmente aumentando este ano, já que estamos adquirindo mais aeronaves de teste on-line e também aeronaves de produção”, diz Eddy De La Motte, chefe da unidade de negócios Gripen E/F da Saab. Ele descreve a reintrodução da plataforma de demonstração 39-7 – cujo cockpit traseiro foi adaptado para representar o Gripen E – permitindo que a empresa empregue o avião como um “equipamento de simulação aérea”.

“Nós nos concentramos muito no envelope de voo com a primeira aeronave de teste – agora estamos nos movendo gradualmente mais e mais nos sistemas táticos e de sensores, e tudo isso engloba uma aeronave completa”, Jonas Hjelm, disse o chefe da área de negócios aeronáuticos da Saab, durante o seminário anual Gripen da empresa em Estocolmo, em 27 de março.

As atividades de voo no ano passado incluíram testes de transporte do míssil Meteor da MBDA, além de testes de separação de mísseis ar-ar de alcance visual Diehl Defense IRIS-T, e De La Motte diz que o trabalho atual envolve radar de varredura eletrônica ativa (AESA) Raven ES-05 e o sensor de busca e rastreamento por infravermelho (IRST) – ambos fornecidos pela Leonardo – e a suíte de guerra eletrônica da Saab.


O Gripen Demo voltará ao programa de testes com o cockpit traseiro configurado como um Gripen E

As quatro primeiras aeronaves de produção Gripen E estão atualmente em fase final de montagem nas instalações da Saab em Linkoping, com o trabalho tendo começado no início deste ano. “Estamos muito felizes com o progresso do programa de produção”, diz De La Motte, que confirmou estar “no cronograma”. Uma vez que seu novo sistema de produção esteja totalmente estabelecido, ele poderá fornecer até 24 aeronaves por ano, acrescentou ele.

De La Motte diz que o primeiro Gripen F biposto do programa está programado para fazer sua estreia em voo em 2023. O Brasil encomendou oito do modelo de dois assentos como parte de um contrato de 36 aeronaves. Cerca de 150 engenheiros – divididos igualmente entre a Saab e o pessoal brasileiro – estão atualmente trabalhando nas mudanças de projeto necessárias para o modelo F, e De La Motte diz que a variante continua “no cronograma”.


Gráfico apresentado no Seminário Gripen mostra os protótipos do Gripen E e a capacidade plena de produção de 24 unidades por ano

Enquanto isso, de olho em novas oportunidades de exportação, Hjelm confirma que a Saab participará de um processo de avaliação de voo planejado pela Suíça ainda este ano, tendo recentemente respondido ao requisito de caça de próxima geração do país.

“Vamos mostrar ao cliente suíço que temos uma base tecnológica comprovada em nossas aeronaves, e que quando e se eles nos escolherem, eles obterão um sistema maravilhoso que funcionará de acordo com suas especificações quando eles quiserem uma entrega em 2025”, completou.

A Saab no início deste ano apresentou propostas para fornecer à Força Aérea Suíça 30 ou 40 caças Gripen E, dependendo de suas eventuais necessidades de frota. A Suíça selecionou previamente o tipo para uma exigência de caça de 22 unidades, mas a aquisição foi posteriormente abandonada após o resultado de um referendo público realizado em maio de 2014.


Saab JAS 39E Gripen 39-8 com mísseis Meteor

FONTE: FlightGlobal
https://www.aereo.jor.br/2019/03/29/saa ... -gripen-e/

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arcanjo

[FCarvalho]

Está tudo bem, quando tudo está bem.
Agora é guardar notícias sobre um possível - e bem mais encorpado de preferência - segundo lote.
Depois que decidiram a CCT quando se esperava mais uma procrastinação, vide a balbúrdia econômica que vive o atual governo, há de se perceber que o Planalto parece ter uma agenda diferente do ministro da economia, pelo menos em relação a alguns projetos caros as ffaa's.
Vamos ver até onde isso vai.

abs

[Marcelo Ponciano]

O MD acabou de sofrer um corte de 5 bi. O segundo maior, atras apenas do MEC.

Temo muito o impacto desses cortes em todos os projetos militares, entre eles: MTC, MANSUP, PROSUB, Gripen, CCT, e etc....

[knigh7]

O Orçamento para a Defesa neste ano teve R$5,7 bilhões como reserva de contingência. Acredito que parte do corte R$5,1 bi seja sobre ela. Em anos passados a reserva de contingência era cerca de R$2 bi. Não tem sentido o Governo manter uma reserva tão alta com um corte desses.

Grande parte do projeto do GripenE é financiado com carência e no caso da Classe Tamandaré ainda vão negociar o contrato. Como foi decidido com atraso, início do pagamento mesmo só em 2020.

[FCarvalho]

Eu tenho cá comigo que com tanto oficiais generais no governo, é bem pouco provável que, pelo menos os principais projetos já em andamento, e aqueles de mais urgência em termos de reequipamento, devem ser poupados pela tesoura do Guedes, e ficar sob o guarda chuva do Planalto.
O presidente sabe onde os calos lhes aperta na hora que as coisas não vão como queira.

abs

[knigh7]

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