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Creio que não me expressei de forma correta.
O que quero dizer é aproveitar o conceito do sistema e não ele em si. Tanto a Remax como a proposta daquela nova empresa oferecem soluções simples e baratas para ser adaptadas a qualquer tipo de bldos hoje operados por nós. Tudo bem não é a melhor solução mas é algo adequado e que cobre uma lacuna da nossa inexpressiva defesa AAe, além de oferecer alguma auto proteção a undes que de outra forma talvez nunca venham a dispor disso no nosso caso.
Já para undes de combate eu acredito que as duas torres que temos aqui podem servir como um bom primeiro passo para um sistema AAe baseado no Guarani.
Como? Honestamente eu não sei. Mas pelo que elas oferecem de versatilidade e opcionais, não creio que seja tão difícil dar a elas essa função.
O problema é: quem vai pagar por isso?
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O que quero dizer é aproveitar o conceito do sistema e não ele em si. Tanto a Remax como a proposta daquela nova empresa oferecem soluções simples e baratas para ser adaptadas a qualquer tipo de bldos hoje operados por nós. Tudo bem não é a melhor solução mas é algo adequado e que cobre uma lacuna da nossa inexpressiva defesa AAe, além de oferecer alguma auto proteção a undes que de outra forma talvez nunca venham a dispor disso no nosso caso.
Já para undes de combate eu acredito que as duas torres que temos aqui podem servir como um bom primeiro passo para um sistema AAe baseado no Guarani.
Como? Honestamente eu não sei. Mas pelo que elas oferecem de versatilidade e opcionais, não creio que seja tão difícil dar a elas essa função.
O problema é: quem vai pagar por isso?
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Agora chegamos á um entendimento, embora esse "conceito" já existe e vem desde o Tunguska, passando pelos análogos Europeus (Gepard, Marksman, Roland...). A diferença é que agora as ameaças são mísseis anti-PGM e VANTS, além dos Helicópteros.
Os Russos notaram isso e desenvolveram o Pantsir, alguns europeus foram atrás do Iris-T e ou mesmo ASRAD (seja RBS, Stinger ou LFK-NG). Enquanto isso a US Army parou no tempo, só voltou agora com a ameaça de vants (essa gambiarra é própria pra isso).
Já eu não vejo necessidade do desenvolvimento disso, foi-se falado em nacionalização/produção de partes do sistema do Pantsir, seria uma mão na luva para Bda Mec e Blind.
Já para Lvs, um 4x4 com algo semelhante ao ASRAD-R (já que usamos RBS 70NG) seria ideal e pode ser nacionalizado.
Se resgatar a oferta dos Russos e conseguir manter as relações com a SAAB (não ache que foi á toa a SAAB utilizar o LMV como plataforma do ASRAD-R para o RBS 70NG), podemos nacionalizar ambos os sistemas e produzir nacionalmente.
Seria mais barato, talvez, que desenvolver coisa parecida. Mas hoje precisamos de um armamento que não só lide com VANT's, mas como anti-PGM e anti-heli.
Principalmente Anti-PGM, devido á proliferação de sistemas NLOS (Spike, ALAS...).
Os Russos notaram isso e desenvolveram o Pantsir, alguns europeus foram atrás do Iris-T e ou mesmo ASRAD (seja RBS, Stinger ou LFK-NG). Enquanto isso a US Army parou no tempo, só voltou agora com a ameaça de vants (essa gambiarra é própria pra isso).
Já eu não vejo necessidade do desenvolvimento disso, foi-se falado em nacionalização/produção de partes do sistema do Pantsir, seria uma mão na luva para Bda Mec e Blind.
Já para Lvs, um 4x4 com algo semelhante ao ASRAD-R (já que usamos RBS 70NG) seria ideal e pode ser nacionalizado.
Se resgatar a oferta dos Russos e conseguir manter as relações com a SAAB (não ache que foi á toa a SAAB utilizar o LMV como plataforma do ASRAD-R para o RBS 70NG), podemos nacionalizar ambos os sistemas e produzir nacionalmente.
Seria mais barato, talvez, que desenvolver coisa parecida. Mas hoje precisamos de um armamento que não só lide com VANT's, mas como anti-PGM e anti-heli.
Principalmente Anti-PGM, devido á proliferação de sistemas NLOS (Spike, ALAS...).
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Acho que quando mudar a atual doutrina AAe no Brasil vamos poder saber mais claramente o que e como resolver o problema. Já que hoje a FAB praticamente quer mandar em tudo e todos em relação a AAe.
Sem um entendimento entre as ffaa's e o avanço para um sistema de NCW realmente funcional por aqui, duvido que saia algo de bom.
Então é esperar e ver pra crer.
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Sem um entendimento entre as ffaa's e o avanço para um sistema de NCW realmente funcional por aqui, duvido que saia algo de bom.
Então é esperar e ver pra crer.
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Nem acho que é uma questão de "se mudar" mas sim TEM que mudar.
O EB considera o Pantsir como média altura, chega a ser ridículo.
Aliás o Pantsir chegou a interceptar foguetes de Pick-ups na Síria, segundo informes (provavelmente 80 mm). Sua capacidade anti-PGM é excelente e cairia como uma luva pra nós, junto com a família Barak-MX.
O EB considera o Pantsir como média altura, chega a ser ridículo.
Aliás o Pantsir chegou a interceptar foguetes de Pick-ups na Síria, segundo informes (provavelmente 80 mm). Sua capacidade anti-PGM é excelente e cairia como uma luva pra nós, junto com a família Barak-MX.
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Mudar a mentalidade dos militares brasileiros...
É mais fácil vender a Embraer toda para a Boeing.
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É mais fácil vender a Embraer toda para a Boeing.
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Macron signs French military budget into law. Here’s what the armed forces are getting.
By: Pierre Tran
PARIS — French President Emmanuel Macron has formally signed into law a new multiyear defense budget, clearing the way for a funding boost for procurement for the Air Force, Army and Navy.
Macron signed the 2019-2025 military budget law on July 13 at Brienne House, just before the garden party held on the eve of the Bastille Day military parade on the Champs Elysées.
This was a “military budget law of growth,” he said in a speech to the officers and personnel who would take part in the parade the next day. The spending would be at a level unseen for decades, hitting the defense spending target of 2 percent of gross domestic product by 2025, he added, and the move comes at a time when the domestic budget was under strain.
The budget would allow the acquisition of more than 1,700 armored vehicles for the Army as well as five frigates, four nuclear-powered attack submarines and nine offshore patrol vessels for the Navy, he said. The Air Force would receive 12 in-flight refueling tankers, 28 Rafale fighter jets and 55 upgraded Mirage 2000 fighters, he added.
This year will see a €1.8 billion increase (U.S. $2.1 billion) in the annual defense budget to €34.2 billion, of which €650 million is earmarked for overseas deployment of combat troops, he said.
The French Senate and lower house National Assembly had previously examined the draft law, and both had voted in favor of the bill. One of the amendments added to the bill was an annual parliamentary review of spending, intended as a rebuff to the Economy and Finance Ministry, which looks to hold onto the funds.
The budget sets a target of €295 billion over seven years, with one-third of the funds released after 2023, after a general election held in 2022 and a new government enters power. That delay in spending has sparked some political concern.
Besides equipment, the budget law increased spending for the intelligence services, and Macron called for a military space strategy to be drawn up next year, with France working nationally and with European allies.
The budget would allow modernization of equipment for the three services, plug capability gaps and speed up delivery of the gear, he added. Much equipment was worn out, having been heavily used in the field, while funding shortage had delayed programs, he noted.
“It is a question of credibility,” he said.
The modernization strategy should not be just about numbers, as performance should be pursued and the equipment should meet the requirement, he said, calling for “balanced” cooperation between the services and the Direction Générale de l’Armement procurement office.
Company CEOs and the chiefs of staff of the services were also at the garden party, where Macron called for a “partnership with industry,” as industrial and technological capacity should be maintained and developed to support sovereignty. The head of state thanked defense companies for the speed of their work, which allowed France to sign two firm agreements with Germany to work on a new fighter jet and future tank.
The U.S is a “strategic partner” for France, where there is a “reciprocal and exceptional confidence in the military domain,” he said.
There was “another privileged relationship” with the U.K, he said.
“Brexit or not, this relationship is strategic, deep and will continue to deepen,” he added, referring to Britain’s impending exit from the European Union.
France presently commits 1.78 percent of GDP to the military, with spending due to rise to 1.91 percent in 2023 and reaching 2 percent by 2025. The planned annual increase will be €1.7 billion from 2019 to 2022, with an annual €3 billion increase in the succeeding years.
The military budget law went in the right direction, but there were “fragilities,” Christian Cambon, chairman of the Senate Committee for Foreign Affairs, Defense and Armed Forces, said May 29. A large part of the funds would only be released in 2024 and 2025, after a budgetary review in 2021.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/euro ... e-getting/
By: Pierre Tran
PARIS — French President Emmanuel Macron has formally signed into law a new multiyear defense budget, clearing the way for a funding boost for procurement for the Air Force, Army and Navy.
Macron signed the 2019-2025 military budget law on July 13 at Brienne House, just before the garden party held on the eve of the Bastille Day military parade on the Champs Elysées.
This was a “military budget law of growth,” he said in a speech to the officers and personnel who would take part in the parade the next day. The spending would be at a level unseen for decades, hitting the defense spending target of 2 percent of gross domestic product by 2025, he added, and the move comes at a time when the domestic budget was under strain.
The budget would allow the acquisition of more than 1,700 armored vehicles for the Army as well as five frigates, four nuclear-powered attack submarines and nine offshore patrol vessels for the Navy, he said. The Air Force would receive 12 in-flight refueling tankers, 28 Rafale fighter jets and 55 upgraded Mirage 2000 fighters, he added.
This year will see a €1.8 billion increase (U.S. $2.1 billion) in the annual defense budget to €34.2 billion, of which €650 million is earmarked for overseas deployment of combat troops, he said.
The French Senate and lower house National Assembly had previously examined the draft law, and both had voted in favor of the bill. One of the amendments added to the bill was an annual parliamentary review of spending, intended as a rebuff to the Economy and Finance Ministry, which looks to hold onto the funds.
The budget sets a target of €295 billion over seven years, with one-third of the funds released after 2023, after a general election held in 2022 and a new government enters power. That delay in spending has sparked some political concern.
Besides equipment, the budget law increased spending for the intelligence services, and Macron called for a military space strategy to be drawn up next year, with France working nationally and with European allies.
The budget would allow modernization of equipment for the three services, plug capability gaps and speed up delivery of the gear, he added. Much equipment was worn out, having been heavily used in the field, while funding shortage had delayed programs, he noted.
“It is a question of credibility,” he said.
The modernization strategy should not be just about numbers, as performance should be pursued and the equipment should meet the requirement, he said, calling for “balanced” cooperation between the services and the Direction Générale de l’Armement procurement office.
Company CEOs and the chiefs of staff of the services were also at the garden party, where Macron called for a “partnership with industry,” as industrial and technological capacity should be maintained and developed to support sovereignty. The head of state thanked defense companies for the speed of their work, which allowed France to sign two firm agreements with Germany to work on a new fighter jet and future tank.
The U.S is a “strategic partner” for France, where there is a “reciprocal and exceptional confidence in the military domain,” he said.
There was “another privileged relationship” with the U.K, he said.
“Brexit or not, this relationship is strategic, deep and will continue to deepen,” he added, referring to Britain’s impending exit from the European Union.
France presently commits 1.78 percent of GDP to the military, with spending due to rise to 1.91 percent in 2023 and reaching 2 percent by 2025. The planned annual increase will be €1.7 billion from 2019 to 2022, with an annual €3 billion increase in the succeeding years.
The military budget law went in the right direction, but there were “fragilities,” Christian Cambon, chairman of the Senate Committee for Foreign Affairs, Defense and Armed Forces, said May 29. A large part of the funds would only be released in 2024 and 2025, after a budgetary review in 2021.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/euro ... e-getting/
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Bolivian Army receives new Chinese military aid package
Jonathan R Olguin, La Paz - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
01 August 2018
The Bolivian Army received a new military aid package from the China on 30 July under the framework of a 2011 military technical co-operation agreement.
The accord, which is negotiated and renewed annually, has so far provided the Bolivian armed forces with a regular influx of new, albeit modest, quantities of military equipment.
In this iteration, the army received 10 Shaanxi Baoji ‘China Tiger’ 4×4 light armoured tactical vehicles, which join an existing inventory of 19 vehicles received in 2016.
The Tiger 4×4 vehicle, which can carry a squad of nine soldiers in addition to a crew of two, is armoured against 7.62 mm munitions and can be fitted with additional protective plates.
https://www.janes.com/article/82132/bol ... id-package
Jonathan R Olguin, La Paz - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
01 August 2018
The Bolivian Army received a new military aid package from the China on 30 July under the framework of a 2011 military technical co-operation agreement.
The accord, which is negotiated and renewed annually, has so far provided the Bolivian armed forces with a regular influx of new, albeit modest, quantities of military equipment.
In this iteration, the army received 10 Shaanxi Baoji ‘China Tiger’ 4×4 light armoured tactical vehicles, which join an existing inventory of 19 vehicles received in 2016.
The Tiger 4×4 vehicle, which can carry a squad of nine soldiers in addition to a crew of two, is armoured against 7.62 mm munitions and can be fitted with additional protective plates.
https://www.janes.com/article/82132/bol ... id-package
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O 8o Bis recebeu uma lancha Guardian junto com outros insumos e suprimentos.
A ver se realmente estas lanchas deslancham no EB ou se vai ser mais do mesmo.
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O 8o Bis recebeu uma lancha Guardian junto com outros insumos e suprimentos.
A ver se realmente estas lanchas deslancham no EB ou se vai ser mais do mesmo.
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"É pra formar doutrina."™
I know the weakness, I know the pain. I know the fear you do not name. And the one who comes to find me when my time is through. I know you, yeah I know you.
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o tráfico de armas é um dos ramos de "negócio" mais sofisticados do mundo. capaz de coisas que até o capeta duvida.
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Isso não tem nada de tráfico de armas.
Um armamento desses, usado apenas pelos amigos do rei (EUA), obviamente foi introduzido na Síria via CIA.
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Presente da CIA aos decaptadores moderados.
I know the weakness, I know the pain. I know the fear you do not name. And the one who comes to find me when my time is through. I know you, yeah I know you.
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Com certeza o carteiro da FedEx é que não entregou isso aí na porta de alguém por lá.
E sim, a CIA é uma das maiores traficantes de armas do mundo.
Só não escrevem isso no New York Times.
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