NOTÍCIAS DA FÓRMULA 1

[Juniorbombeiro]

É Honda. Só sabe fazer moto.

Meio brincando, mas sério. A F1 serviu para a Honda ser vista como fabricante de carros e não apenas de motos.

Mais sério. Não tô muito esperançoso com a McLaren-Honda. A Honda prometeu um moto novo. Pode até ser, mas parece não ter confiabilidade. Algo me diz que o projeto de volta da Honda para Formula 1 foi feito nas coxas. Talvez, planejado pelo mesmo pessoal que tocava a falecida equipe oficial. Tanto erro estratégico que dá um misto de raiva ou pena.

Capaz do casamento acabar logo. E a Honda dizer "obrigado e adeus".

Alguém já tinha postado um documentário aqui sobre a equipe de engenharia da Honda na F1. Tudo uma piazada recém saída da faculdade. Some-se a isso o fato de todo ano eles irem para uma abordagem diferente de projeto, fica difícil acertar. Mas torço por eles, eles tem vontade, paciência e dinheiro, e a F1 precisa de novos players.

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Ferrari amanha

[Juniorbombeiro]

Ferrari amanha

Eu tinha pensado nisso também, só não me liguei de postar. Pior que estão reclamando, mas a única equipe que testou sem barbatana e asa varal, foi a Mercedes, vai entender.

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Mais do mesmo?

'Naïve' 2017 rule changes have helped Mercedes - Ross Brawn

http://www.espn.co.uk/video/clip?id=18778280

F1's overhaul of the 2017 regulations has strengthened, not weakened, world champions Mercedes, according to the sport's new motorsport chief Ross Brawn.

This year's cars have been made wider and given more downforce, with the early days of winter testing suggesting a dramatic drop in lap times as promised. The scale of the changes led to speculation of a dramatic shake-up of the pecking order after three years of utter Mercedes dominance since the implementation of V6 turbo engines in 2014.

But the reigning world champions have looked stronger than ever at the start of winter testing, accumulating 320 laps in the first two days alone. Brawn, who has accused F1 of being short-sighted in recent years, thinks the rule change is a good example of where F1 has been going wrong in recent seasons.

"We expose ourselves whenever we make changes like this," Brawn told Sky Sports. "Fingers crossed, it is going to work out but l think it is a good example of where we didn't go through the right principles to begin with. And if this was a principle to stop Mercedes winning, you could argue the exact contrary.

"A team that strong and with that resource will relish change. It was naïve to think it would destabilise Mercedes. If anything it gave them an advantage."

Brawn's return to F1 coincided with the demise of Manor, who fell into bankruptcy ahead of the new season. Another key consideration for the Englishman in the early months of his new job is how to level the playing field for some of the sport's smaller teams.

"In the long run, we need to make sure more teams have the capability to compete. At the bottom of the grid, the commercial consideration of the driver is much stronger than it is at the front of the grid. If we can put the smaller teams on a sounder footing then l think the whole sport will improve and you will get more [Max] Verstappens coming through than you do now."

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MCLAREN CONSIDERING HONDA DIVORCE

McLaren is looking at the potential possibility of cutting ties with Honda before the start of the Formula 1 season, according to Spanish publication AS.

Many expected a lot from the McLaren-Honda partnership when it was announced in 2014 but after two lacklustre seasons in 2015 and 2016, failing to score one single podium, it appears the dream could be over.

The first two days of pre-season testing at the Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya have been curtailed with mechanical issues with the new Honda power unit leaving the team and star driver Fernando Alonso frustrated.

If McLaren was to divorce with Honda then one of the other three manufacturers would have to supply McLaren with a power unit in accordance with the new regulations, most likely a return to Mercedes.

As stated by AS, McLaren would have two problems. Its current chassis is built to the specification of the 2017 Honda engine thus a new chassis would have to be created meaning it would be near impossible to create a new one before the Australian Grand Prix on March 26.

Additionally, Honda is financially very good for McLaren and considering the lack of title sponsor, sticking with Honda makes sense financially even if the on-track performances are not what either party expects.

Realistically and the most likely outcome is that McLaren will remain with Honda for another season at least.

http://readmotorsport.com/2017/03/01/mc ... a-divorce/

[Bourne]

Olhe bem, sem Honda, A McLaren tem duas opções: Mercedes ou Renault.

Vai usar motor Ferrari? Duvido. Principalmente nunca fornece o motor usado na equipe principal.

Mercedes é motor cliente. Bom e só. Mas tem o problema que force para um monte de equipes e já disse não para redbull.

A Renault talvez seja mais amistosa. No entanto, será que continua assim se começar a disputar podem mudar de opinião rápido.

Outros problemas adjacentes são que os motores tem desenvolvimento continuo.

O que resta? BMW-McLaren.

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Sim, circulam muitos rumores por essa net fora acerca de um possivel acordo com a BMW, mas que seria para 2O18, nao acredito que a BMW faça um motor F1 assim do dia para a noite.

De qq modo, da maneira que as coisas estao, QUALQUER motor cliente deverá ser melhor que esta bosta da Honda (nunca pensei que depois dos anos gloriosos do Senna, a Honda caísse tanto!!!)

e os rumores intensificam-se:

McLaren look to ditch Honda ASAP
March 1, 2017 · by thejudge13 · in Breaking News. ·


A depressed looking Peter Pedromou (MCL32 designer) behind McLaren garage Barcelona
Having spent quite some time in the paddock over the years, at times the wild rumours that circulate at times among the F1 folk – really do beggar belief. And today’s is up there with the best of them.

There’s a whisper beginning to circulate late morning on day 3 of winter testing here in Barcelona which suggests McLaren have spoken with another engine manufacturer about a supply of power units for THIS YEAR.

In reality, the logistics of this kind of move are close to unthinkable – and there would have to be performance penalty release clauses in the deal McLaren have with Honda at present for this to even be possible. Yet in a way this rumour is hardly surprising given the woeful start to pre-season testing Honda have made again.

Interestingly, because of a recent rule change – were McLaren to ditch Honda, one of the other three engine manufacturers would be forced by the FIA to supply the Woking based team. There are though lead time clauses written into the regulation which mean the MacHonda would survive as a partnership for at least the first flyaway races.

Importing a new engine into the MCL32 would not be too physically problematic since the hybrid turbo power unit mountings are fixed by FIA regulations – specifically with a view to making engine supplies easily transferable.

However, the driveability of a MacMerc or Mac-Renault would most likely be ugly – but then again Ross Brawn pulled it off in 2009 with a late switch to Mercedes power when Honda pulled out of Formula One.

And we all remember how that turned out.

One reason an impending MacHonda divorce is unlikely before the end of the season, is due to the $100m or so sponsorship McLaren is presently receiving from Honda.

The rumour allegedly finds its source in one Fernando Alonso – and if THAT is true – its probably just the Spaniard venting his spleen in frustration at what may be for him another year of GP3 racing against other drivers in F1 machinery.

At the time of publication, McLaren have managed 25 laps this morning with a best time some 4 seconds off the pace of the Mercedes.

https://thejudge13.com/2017/03/01/mclar ... onda-asap/

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A comparative visual glance at all the 2017 cars



http://en.f1i.com/magazine/91206-compar ... ars.html/5

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Inside Line: Liberty Media ushers glasnost era in F1

What do Formula One and late eighties Soviet politics have in common? More than you might think…

A little over 30 years since Mikhail Gorbachev announced his policy of “glasnost”, F1 has started the transition away from its own dictatorial regime, and we’re already seeing the benefits of a similar policy of “openness”. Let’s just hope this too doesn’t end with a David Hasselhoff concert.

Like North Korean missile tests and where Red Bull buried Jaime Alguersuari, pre-season testing footage has long been a closely guarded secret, but the 2017 edition has seen that turned on its head.

Not only has the hunt for genuine footage of the on-track action been made easier thanks to the teams’ various social media feeds, F1 itself is actively encouraging such dissemination, posting their own content (like Bottas’ big moment from Tuesday) on twitter, and adopting a hands-off policy towards YouTube videos that would have Bernie Ecclestone spinning in his rejuvenation tank.

It’s no coincidence that all of this has happened the year Liberty Media completed their takeover, and it serves to show that a little openness goes a long way. And sure, the new regs have certainly helped heighten interest in this year’s testing, but us F1 fans have proven we’ll consume any scrap we’re given.

Having even this much access shows how misguided the old media approach was, and it should bode well for the season proper, when fans, teams and drivers alike can really dig-in to sharing their own experiences over the race weekend.

That said, there is still an expectation that this is just the beginning, not the endpoint, of F1 embracing new media.

If Formula 1 truly wants to regain its place in world sport, it would do well to follow the approach of American leagues like the NFL and NBA, both in opening up data for free, public use (even rudimentary telemetry would go a long way), and introducing the premium streaming service that it so sorely needs.

The goal for F1 shouldn’t be to just get more eyes on the racing, but to turn those casual fans into die-hards, and the deeper they can dive into all aspects of the sport, the easier that is to accomplish.

Certainly, it’s early days for the reign of new owners Liberty Media, but at least so far, they’ve delivered on their name. It may be hard to be optimistic about the quality of racing in 2017, but the same can’t be said for its coverage. Here’s to more testing footage, and a new era of openness in Formula One.

http://www.grandprix247.com/2017/03/01/ ... era-in-f1/

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How Formula 1 can learn from MotoGP

As Formula 1 embarks on a season of change, MotoGP is revelling in the success of a recent change in its rules...



MotoGP’s competitive landscape has been transformed since the introduction of unified software in 2016, which made MotoGP more feasible and attractive for new entries. A record nine different riders won races for four manufactures last season, with eight consecutive races seeing eight different winners.

Discussing the state of play in both sports with Mark Hughes in a feature for Motor Sport last month, Mat Oxley was full of praise for the sport’s (forced) embrace of change.

“Dorna has done an amazing job. They have managed to wrestle back control by bullying and fighting with the factories over years and years to try and reduce costs, make the grid tighter and to encourage new manufacturers to join with the unified software. The racing is fantastic at the moment, and that’s largely because of what they’ve done.

“Getting the teams to agree to the unified software was amazing. The Japanese teams want to play with their electronics, especially Honda who was not happy about it, but it was without a doubt the right thing to do. Most of the riders are much happier now they actually ride the bikes themselves.”

"Suzuki are now coming and they’ve done very well. I don’t know how large their race department is, but it’s probably something like 20 or 30, whilst Aprilia’s race department is just 7 engineers. By contrast HRC is about 120, and Ducati Corse is over 100.”

Aerodynamics have reached unprecedented levels of complexity in recent seasons of F1, to the extent that its relevance to the road car industry has become questionable. MotoGP has made revisions in this area too, banning winglets for the 2017 season.



“The wings offered a tiny, tiny performance increase, to the extent that not all riders ran them,” Mat Oxley explained. “If you were drafting, the bike in front would get all of the air force and because you’re in his draft you wouldn’t get that down force, so the bike in front would always have the advantage.”

Mark Hughes weighed up the feasibility of making similar revisions in F1.

“You could certainly make a good case for reducing the aero. It isn’t relevant anywhere outside of F1 and it doesn’t do anything in particular for the racing. If it were more about drag reduction than downforce generation, then it would have more relevance to the road car industry, through reduced fuel consumption and the likes.

“It would need an entire culture change though, all the way through root and branch of the sport. I guess then it would make F1 nervous about being compared to IndyCar too, which would de facto become massively faster”.

Like MotoGP’s adoption of unified software last season, interest in standardisation has increasingly been voiced in the F1 paddock too. In particular, interest surrounds standardising parts less visible to fans or those that do not add to the sport’s spectacle, such as suspension units.

Speaking to Motor Sport in 2016, former Ferrari president Luca di Montezemelo recognised the merits of this.

“We are in a very delicate situation with F1 at the moment but, despite that, it still has big, big potential if it is managed correctly.

“We have never properly looked at standardising parts that make no difference, which you cannot see but add enormously to the cost. Why not? I wouldn’t want it to be like IndyCar where all is the same, but somewhere in between.”

At the Abu Dhabi season finale in 2015, Red Bull team principal Christian Horner went further by proposing the standardisation of ERS. Mark Hughes weighed up the feasibility of this.

“Standardising the ERS would be taking away the R&D appeal of hybrid development for the manufacturers, but they surely cannot have it all ways. If their R&D is potentially going to bankrupt the sport, it’s a luxury the sport cannot afford.

“Current F1 budgets are cheap for manufacturers, but unaffordable for independents, so why not even out the playing field a little? Something needs to happen. Why not this?



“At the moment we are heading for a long-term possibility of just five teams, with at least two of them running uncompetitive engines. That spells disaster and collapse."

As a sport always viewing technology as progress, F1 is naturally reluctant to embrace standardisation. However regulatory overhaul in 2017 has promised a similar shakeup of the competitive order, with cars more challenging to drive allowing driver ability to return to the fore.

The visibility of different riding styles to fans has long been central to MotoGP’s appeal, Mat Oxley argues.

“Márquez and Lorenzo are the two extremes. Márquez looks like he’s out of control, all over the bike, twisting and reacting to it, making it all work. Lorenzo – you don’t even see him move. It’s to do with the bikes they ride, but also where they came from. Lorenzo came from 250cc, all about momentum and smoothness, whereas Marquez came from Moto2, where the racing was close and physical.”



Such distinctions are less evident in F1, Mark Hughes argues.

"The driver doesn’t have that same influence in F1; the traits are pretty much defined by the car. There are some drivers who have the knack or style to work a particular tyre or car characteristic better than another, but it’s never the defining thing that says ‘this guy will be faster than that guy’. It’s always car or tyre defined.”

The results of MotoGP’s recent reforms speak for themselves – a highly competitive 2016 season was a win for fans and a win for manufacturers. There is much that F1 can learn. Time will tell whether it is willing to listen.


http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opini ... arn-motogp

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F1 testing: Williams to miss final day of running after Stroll crash

By Jonathan Noble
Published on Thursday March 2nd 2017



Williams has been forced to abandon the final day of running in Formula 1's Barcelona test because of damage caused by Lance Stroll's crash on Wednesday.

Stroll spun into the barriers on the exit of Turn 5 late in the afternoon, damaging the front suspension and nose of the FW40.

The team had hoped that the car could be repaired in time for Thursday's wet test, but a detailed inspection revealed damage to the chassis.

"Following a thorough inspection overnight some damage to the FW40 chassis was discovered," the team said.

"Therefore, on safety grounds, the team will not run the car today.

"A second chassis will be prepared at [the] track this afternoon as originally planned, with the team aiming to be back on track for the second test next week starting on Tuesday 7 March."

Felipe Massa had been due to run on Thursday for Pirelli's allotted wet weather test, and Williams's absence will leave the team without valuable data of the new wider rain tyres.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... elona-test

[Bourne]

O Stroll é o mais rico, mas não é melhor e nem o mais preparado. Ele não tem noção do que é bater o carro e tomar bronca da equipe, ter cobrança ou não está na melhor equipe. Dizem o pai torrou US$ 50 milhões. Mas o custo que o Stroll gerou por bater o carro e atrasar o cronograma de teste foi incalculável.

Tem uns 50 gurizinhos da idade dele, bem patrocinados e bem treinados, que estão por vir. especialmente dos lados da Alemanha, Rússia e França. Esses aí só gastaram uns US$ 10 milhões. Boa parte pago por federações e empregas nacionais. Nessa linha que nasceram o Ricciardo, Vergner, Mad Max, Sainz, Vettel e Grosjean entre outros tiveram a carreira construída na década de 2010.

Nota importante. Esses guris acima eles treinam de 50 a 60 dias por ano para entrar em uma categoria como F4 ou F3. Isso quer dizer que eles vão para pistas europeias e fazem quilometragem com o treinador do lado orientado o que e como agir. Ou seja, aquele que vem de fora ou não tem dinheiro, não vão conseguir competir.

[Bolovo]

Gostei do som da Ferrari.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVVLnJw2KCQ

[Juniorbombeiro]

Puta que o pariu...a Williams se rebaixar a esse ponto!!! Agora entendo pq quiseram o Massa de volta, espero morder os dedos, mas esse piá vai fazer cagada a temporada inteira, é muito ruim, a Williams encheu os bolsos com a liberação o Bottas, mas a grana que o papai do playboizinho tá pagando, e parece que fez um carro certinho para esse ano. Eu estava estranhando o Massa só ter treinado no primeiro dia, botaram o pagante para "aprender" nos outros dois dias, além de perder a já rara oportunidade de desenvolver o carro (sim, pq o guri não consegue nem parar dentro da pista, imagina passar dados para a equipe) ainda me destrói o carro...deviam ter feito que nem a Mercedes, treina um de manhã e o outro a tarde, botava o Massa para pegar quilometragem com o carro pela manhã e deixa o guri brincar de tarde, teria tido menos prejuízo técnico. É muito amadorismo, a grana que esse piá tá pagando tem que ser muito grande, mas ele não tem como pagar o tempo precioso que a equipe perdeu, espero que o carro tenha saído muito certo para compensar isso. Vai ser equipe de um piloto só e ainda velho.