NOTÍCIAS DO RAFALE

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Ok, sigamos nos debates sobre o Rafale.

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Defence Ministry Awaiting CNC Report to Finalise Delayed Rafale Deal: Parrikar
(Source: Business Standard; published Feb 18, 2015)
BENGALURU, India --- Defence minister Manohar Parrikar on Wednesday said the [Contract] Negotiation Committee (CNC) is expected to give its final report on acquisition of French fighter plane Rafale either by end of February or early March. The decision was not being dragged by the National Democratic Alliance (NDA) government, he added.

"I have asked for the report but have not received yet. Until the detailed report is submitted, I will not be able to comment on the multi-billion dollar aircraft acquisition deal,” Parrikar told reporters at the Aero India 2015, here on Wednesday.

When asked about the three-year delay in modernisation of Indian Air Force and Rafale being an important part of it, he pointed out that the NDA government had come to power only ten months ago. “I have asked the CNC to speed up the process of completion of the report. The report is inevitable for the government to make a final decision on the deal,” he said.

"We are determined to strengthen our defence forces. But we will also focus on maximising the use of the current availability of war planes. This is also important," he added. He further said there was no delay in the finalisation of the deal.

The multi-role medium range combat aircraft (MMRCA) deal is valued at around $20 billion for supply of 126 fighter aircraft.

The defence minister also added the government is in the process of tweaking the defence procurement policy to enable small and medium sector enterprises get a better deal in the offset clauses. "We are aware of the problems faced by MSME sector. We also know that they can contribute handsomely to defence production and Make in India a bigger success," Parrikar said.


(EDITOR’S NOTE: Dassault CEO Eric Trappier expects to close the deal, and denied reports that that the life-cycle cost of the Rafale was higher than its competitors, India’s NDTV reported Feb 18 from Bengaluru.
"We are more than confident because it's a commitment that the life cycle cost of the Rafale is entirely in line with what we gave in the answer to the RFP (Request for Proposal) and we are totally compliant with the RFP of the government of India," NDTV quoted him as saying in an interview.
"Our pricing remains the same from day one of L1 (Lowest bidder). So there has been no change on that front," Trappier told the Press Trust of India in a separate interview at the show.
Asked about claims that Dassault is not willing to stand guarantee for the 108 jets to be made by state-run HAL here, Trappier denied there was any deviation from what the RFP said.
"We are exactly in line with our answer to (Request for Proposal (RFP). This answer led the government of India to select L1 which was Rafale. And we have stuck to the same commitment which is totally in line and compliant with the RFP," he told PTI.)

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http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... ister.html

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French defence minister in India to salvage Rafale deal

By Afp

Published: 12:47 GMT, 24 February 2015 | Updated: 12:47 GMT, 24 February 2015

French Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian held talks with his Indian counterpart on Tuesday on his second visit to New Delhi in as many months as he tries to salvage a deal to sell 126 Rafale fighter jets.

France is hoping to save the deal, which has been snagged for three years and now faces new questions over cost, before a visit to Paris by Prime Minister Narendra Modi in April.

"The two delegations met today for 45 minutes. The meeting went well," said Indian defence ministry spokesman Sitanshu Kar without giving further details.

French company Dassault Aviation won the right in January 2012 to enter exclusive negotiations with India to supply 126 Rafale fighters, with experts saying a final deal could be worth $12 billion.

The idea is for Dassault to supply 18 of the twin-engine fighters later this year while the remaining 108 would be made by state-run Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd under technology transfer agreements with India.

But negotiations have proved fraught, both under Modi's government and its Congress predecessor, while a committee looking into the deal has reportedly found that it was not the cheapest option.

Le Drian's visit comes a week after France signed an agreement with Egypt for the first foreign sale of its Rafale fighters, which it hopes will prompt others to snap up its premier combat jet.

Paris is also eyeing possible deals with Qatar and Malaysia, although the Rafale has lost out to foreign competitors in South Korea, Singapore, Morocco, Switzerland and Brazil.

France's defence ministry said before Le Drian's arrival late Monday that the talks would give the governments a chance to discuss "international affairs and defence industry issues", but there was little doubt the Rafale would dominate proceedings.

Modi's right-wing government, which won power in elections last May, has been blowing hot and cold about the progress of discussions.

While his government has pledged to push forward with purchases which stalled under Congress, Modi wants to end India's status as the world's number one defence importer and to have 70 percent of hardware manufactured domestically by the turn of the decade.

A defence ministry spokesman said during Le Drian's visit in December that outstanding differences "would be resolved in a fast-track manner".

But the government has also commissioned a report about the project costs, adding yet more uncertainty.

Speaking at an air show in Bangalore last week, India's Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar said he expected the contract negotiation committee (CNC) to submit its report within weeks.

"I have asked the CNC to speed up the process of completion of the report for us to take a decision on the acquisition of Rafale," he told reporters.

Le Drian arrived in New Delhi late Monday and left on Tuesday afternoon after meeting Parrikar.


India's Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar (left) shakes hands with French Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian ahead of a meeting in New Delhi on February 24, 2015 ©Vijay Kumar (DPR/AFP)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/ar ... -deal.html

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French Navy Rafale M Fighter Conducts Qualifications with USS Carl Vinson in the Gulf

In what seems to be becoming a tradition between the two allied navies, a French Navy (Marine Nationale) Rafale M fighter crossed deck with US Navy nuclear-powever aircraft carrier (CVN) USS Carl Vinson. The US aircraft carrier and the French Navy CVN Charles de Gaulle are currently deployed in the Persian Gulf to conduct strike operations in Iraq.


ARABIAN GULF (March 3, 2015) A French navy Rafale Marine aircraft from Squadron 11F embarked aboard the French navy nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle (R91) launches from U.S. Navy nuclear powered aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70). Carl Vinson is deployed as part of the Carl Vinson Carrier Strike Group supporting maritime security operations, strike operations in Iraq and Syria as directed, and theater security cooperation efforts in the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class John Philip Wagner, Jr./Released)

The goal of this "cross deck" was to qualify the Dassault Aviation Rafale M fighter with USS Carl Vinson. The French navy CSG started air operations above Iraq last week.

The Rafale M is fully compatible with US Navy aircraft carriers and some French Navy pilots have already qualified to fly the aircraft from US Navy flight decks. This marks the fourth time French navy Rafale M operates with a US Navy CVN:
- On 4 June 2010, during an exercise on USS Harry S. Truman, a French Rafale became the first jet fighter of a foreign navy to have its engine replaced on board an American aircraft carrier.
- In 2008 six Rafales from Flottille 12F integrated into the USS Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Air Wing interoperability exercise.
- In july 2007 two Rafale M conducted touch and go, traps, and catapult launch maneuvers with USS Enterprise off the French Riviera.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=2472

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Indian Navy Submitted an RFI to Dassault about the Rafale M Carrier Capable Variant

Dassault Aviation chief executive officer Eric Trappier announced yesterday during a press conference that the French company has replied to a request for information from the Indian Navy on the naval Rafale M single-seat carrier-capable variant of its fighter.




A Rafale M with an AM39 Exocet Anti-ship missile is launched from the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle. Archive picture: French Navy

India and France are in final negotiation for the procurement of 126 Rafale fighters for the Indian Air Force.

Indian Navy's current (INS Vikramaditya, INS Viraat) and near term (INS Vikrant) aircraft carriers are all fitted with a ramp for STOBAR type operations (Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery). While likely capable of STOBAR operations, the Rafale M capabilities would be maximized with a CATOBAR type aircraft carrier (Catapult Assisted Take-Off But Arrested Recovery) like the US Navy aircraft carriers or the French Navy aircraft carrier.

Indian Navy's future INS Vishal might be nuclear-powered carrier with CATOBAR system.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=2500

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Rafale para a Índia: MD indiano ‘bate o pé’ quanto a preço e condições do RFP

‘ELES TÊM QUE NOS DIZER SE PODEM OU NÃO CUMPRIR, NÃO PODEMOS FICAR ESPERANDO’, DISSE O MINISTRO MANOHAR PARRIKAR

Segundo reportagem publicada hoje (18 de março) pelo jornal indiano “The New Indian Express“, o ministro da Defesa da Índia, Manohar Parrikar, deixou claro ao Governo Francês e à empresa francesa Dassault que as condições de preço e do RFP (pedido de propostas) estabelecidas para a compra do caça Rafale não são negociáveis. O ministro respondeu, na terça-feira, a pergunta sobre o já bastante adiado contrato com a Dassault para a aquisição de 126 aeronaves, afirmando: “Nós transmitimos muito claramente nossa posição a eles (franceses). Simultaneamente, eles têm que nos dizer se podem ou não cumprir. Não podemos ficar esperando.”

Até o momento, segundo o jornal, o comitê de negociação de custos não chegou a um consenso, mesmo tendo iniciado os trabalhos sobre as modalidades do contrato em fevereiro de 2012. Fontes do Ministério da Defesa, ligadas ao assunto, disseram ao jornal indiano que o custo do projeto já ultrapassa 20 bilhões de dólares, frente aos 12 bilhões estimados quando a competição foi estabelecida em 2007.
http://www.aereo.jor.br/2015/03/18/rafa ... es-do-rfp/

Acredito que esse contrato não sai !

Os franceses negociam dessa forma ... apresentam preços somente do equipamento no RFP e depois que vencem a disputa querem "negociar" a ToT irretríta by gália.

Acontece que o RFP apresenta um pacote com ToT de tais tecnologias, fabricação sob licença, etc ... dito e feito ... apresentaram número de US$12 BI, foram eleitos o L1, e quando foram assinar contratos começaram a querer "negociar" a ToT requerido no RFP indiano, de US$ 12 "pulou" pra mais de US$ 20.

Cansei de cantar essa bola aqui no DB, quase me lincharam do fórum, no FX-2 é a mesma coisa, o precinho foi US$8 BI "sem nenhuma ToT", espero que aqueles que discutiam isso na época se lembrem do fato.

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entretanto, no mundo real


First three Egyptian Rafales (B352/353/354) in Bordeaux-Merignac (C) V.Massé




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[NovaTO]

Já desabilitaram os sistemas da OTAN/Capacidade de Ataque Nuclear já que esses era para a AdlA? Pela velocidade foi só adicionar ou retirar algumas linhas de código.

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[bcorreia]

Já desabilitaram os sistemas da OTAN/Capacidade de Ataque Nuclear já que esses era para a AdlA? Pela velocidade foi só adicionar ou retirar algumas linhas de código.

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Se for no esquema dos atuais softwares/firmwares foi só usar uma chave de ativação diferente das versões francesas

[mmatuso]

E remover o hardware compatível.

Enquanto outros projetos ainda nem realmente voaram.

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E remover o hardware compatível.

Enquanto outros projetos ainda nem realmente voaram.

mas esses TIE-Fighters é que serao bons

entretanto...


France ready to discuss technology transfer with Indonesia about Rafale jet fighter procurement

France asserted on Wednesday, March 25, that it was willing to provide an industrial cooperation with Indonesia should the Dassault Rafale jet fighter be selected to modernize the Indonesian Air Force. French Ambassador to Indonesia Corinne Breuzé said that France was open to all cooperation possibilities involving French aircraft maker Dassault Aviation and state-owned aircraft maker PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PT DI).


Two Dassault Rafale jet fighters arrived on Monday in Indonesia from the just-concluded LIMA '15 exhibition

“With the support of the French government, Dassault is open to any possibility of partnerships and transfer technology,” she said in a prepared statement.

Other than technology transfer, she said that being 100 percent French, the Rafale would allow its users independence. “It is designed with Safran/Snecma for the engine, Thales for the avionics and MBDA for the armament,” she said.

Breuzé was speaking at an event to introduce the French jet fighter to the Indonesian public, at the Halim Perdanakusuma Air Force Base in East Jakarta.

She said that the decision to bring the Rafale to Jakarta, despite a high level of operational engagement especially in Iraq, was made by the French defense minister and air force following a courtesy call from Indonesian Defense Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu, who met his French counterpart Jean-Yves Le Drian on March 10.

Ryamizard also visited the Rafale’s assembly line in Bordeaux-Merignac during the March visit.

Two Rafale jet fighters, a Rafale B double-seater and a Rafale C single-seater, arrived on Monday from the just-concluded 2015 Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace (LIMA) exhibition in Malaysia.

On Tuesday, the jet fighters performed three flights for Indonesian Air Force pilots who flew on the Rafale B, taking the back seat.

There was also a solo aerobatic display performed by Capt. Benoit Blanche of the French Air Force.

The Rafale is a latecomer in the competition to replace the aging American-made F-5 E/F Tiger II operated by the Indonesian Air Force.

The French jet fighter is facing tough competition, locking horns with a stable of other contenders including the Russian-made Sukhoi Su-35, American-made F-16 Block 60, Swedish-made Saab JAS-39 Gripen and the Eurofighter Typhoon, a collaboration between Germany, Italy, Spain and the UK.

The Indonesian Air Force has repeatedly said it prefers the Su-35, the latest iteration of the Flanker family of jet fighters, although the final decision will be made by the Defense Ministry.

Meanwhile, Dassault Aviation executive vice president for America, Africa and Asia military sales JPHP Chabriol told The Jakarta Post that the best example of French will to transfer technology was India, which selected the Rafale.

He said that from an order of 126 units, 18 were supposed to be produced in France and the rest to be produced locally by Indian industries through progressive transfer of technology.

“From French authorities’ point of view as well as from French industry, there is no limitation to transfer technologies of the Rafale to friendly foreign countries,” he said.

“The only constraints we have are linked to the budgetary aspect, good sense and cost efficiency.”

He said Dassault and all associated French companies were quite open to discussions with Indonesian actors to set up a program that suited Indonesian requirements.

“We are not imposing anything; we are ready for discussion to define what is the optimized scheme of transfer of technology in the framework of the Rafale bid,” Chabriol said.

Other than technology transfer, Chabriol emphasized that Indonesia would get total independence if it selected the Rafale because, as it is a 100-percent French product, Indonesia would not have to deal with a third party.

Another advantage of buying the Rafale, he added, was that it could be deployed with very minimal logistical support.

(Source: The Jakarta Post)

http://airrecognition.com/index.php?opt ... ew&id=1614

[Bolovo]

Parece que vai sair 63 Rafales para a Índia num acordo entre os governos francês e indiano. Junto com os 24 Rafales para o Egito, já serão 87 exportações. Quem diria heim... e ainda o chamavam de mico. Nada como um dia após o outro.

[NovaTO]

Agora não entendo os Indianos... Uma longa novela por causa de preço e ToT para chegar em 63 Rafales de prateleira.

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[Luís Henrique]

Agora não entendo os Indianos... Uma longa novela por causa de preço e ToT para chegar em 63 Rafales de prateleira.

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Algumas fontes dizem que estes 63 Rafale seriam uma opção das tratativas anteriores. Ou seja, um ADICIONAL.

Em breve saberemos, mas eu creio que serão 63 Rafale de prateleira para suprir as necessidades de substituição URGENTE de caças MiG-21 e MiG-27 e para poderem terminar as negociações do contrato principal SEM PRESSA, e neste contrato principal que constaria as 126 aeronaves (18 produzidas na França e 108 na Índia).

Ou seja, um total de 189 caças Rafale.
63 sendo encomendados de URGÊNCIA E DE PRATELEIRA para suprir necessidades da força aérea indiana. E o restante no contrato principal, com tot, produção local, etc.

[Luís Henrique]

da uma lida:

http://www.aereo.jor.br/2015/04/10/segu ... rateleira/