TÓPICO OFICIAL DO FX-2: GRIPEN NG

[Boss]

A proposta americana ainda seria essa ?

Today the Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) notified
Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Brazil of 28 F/A-18E Super Hornet Aircraft, eight F/A-18F Super Hornet Aircraft, 72 F414-GE-400 installed engines, a host of spare parts and munitions at an estimated value of $7.0 billion.

The Government of Brazil has requested proposals from several foreign suppliers, including the United States, to provide the next generation fighter for the Brazilian Air Force. In this “FX-2” competition, the Government of Brazil has yet to select the United States Navy-Boeing proposal.

This notification is being made in advance of receipt of a letter of request so that, in the event that the US Navy-Boeing proposal is selected, the United States might move as quickly as possible to implement the sale. If the Government of Brazil selects the U.S. Navy-Boeing proposal, the Government of Brazil will request a possible sale of 28 F/A-18E Super Hornet Aircraft, eight F/A-18F Super Hornet Aircraft, 72 F414-GE-400 installed engines, four F414-GE-400 spare engines, 36 AN/APG-79 Radar Systems, 36 M61A2 20mm Gun Systems, 36 AN/ALR-67(V) three Radar Warning Receivers, 144 LAU-127 Launchers, 44 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS), 28 AIM-120C-7 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM), 28 AIM-9M SIDEWINDER Missiles, 60 GBU-31/32 Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM), 36 AGM-154 Joint Standoff Weapons (JSOW), 10 AGM-88B HARM Missiles, and 36 AN/ASQ-228 (V2) Advanced Targeting Forward-Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) Pods. Also included are 36 AN/ALQ-214 Radio Frequency Countermeasures. 40 AN/ALE-47 Electronic Warfare Countermeasures Systems, 112 AN/ALE-50 Towed Decoys, Joint Mission Planning System, support equipment, spare and repair parts, personnel training and training equipment, ferry and tanker support, flight test, software support, publications and technical documents, U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics and program support.

This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that has been, and continues to be, an important force for political stability and economic progress in South America.

Brazil needs these aircraft to meet current and future threats. The proposed sale of F/A-18E/F aircraft will enhance Brazil’s tactical aviation capabilities. An increase in capability will be accrued primarily due to the larger number of aircraft and the larger range and endurance of the F/A-18E/F. Brazil will have no difficulty absorbing these aircraft into its aircraft inventory.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

The principal contractors will be:
The Boeing Company St. Louis, Mo.
General Electric Aircraft Engines Lynn, Mass.
Northrup Grumman Corporation El Segundo, Calif.
Raytheon Corporation El Segundo, Calif.
Lockheed Martin Bethesda, Md.

Offsets agreements associated with this proposed sale are expected; however, specific agreements are undetermined and will be defined during negotiations between the purchaser and contractor.

Implementation of this sale will require approximately eight contractor representatives to provide technical and logistics support in Brazil for two years. U.S. Government and contractor representatives will also participate in program management and technical reviews for one-week intervals twice semi-annually.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law and does not mean the sale has been concluded.

[knigh7]

O Governo vem pedindo que as propostas sejam renovadas. Mas devido a grande demora da decisão (são propostas de 4 anos atrás!!!!!), é possível que itens sejam substituídos por mais avançados de comum acordo. É muito provável que a FAB exija isso para fechar com algum dos concorrentes.

[faterra]

Esta proposta já deve estar caducada! Depois desta já prometeram mundos e fundos para o Brasil. Resta saber se vão cumprir!

[rodrigo]

28 F/A-18E Super Hornet Aircraft, eight F/A-18F Super Hornet Aircraft, 72 F414-GE-400 installed engines, four F414-GE-400 spare engines, 36 AN/APG-79 Radar Systems, 36 M61A2 20mm Gun Systems, 36 AN/ALR-67(V) three Radar Warning Receivers, 144 LAU-127 Launchers, 44 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS), 28 AIM-120C-7 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM), 28 AIM-9M SIDEWINDER Missiles, 60 GBU-31/32 Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM), 36 AGM-154 Joint Standoff Weapons (JSOW), 10 AGM-88B HARM Missiles, and 36 AN/ASQ-228 (V2) Advanced Targeting Forward-Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) Pods. Also included are 36 AN/ALQ-214 Radio Frequency Countermeasures. 40 AN/ALE-47 Electronic Warfare Countermeasures Systems, 112 AN/ALE-50 Towed Decoys, Joint Mission Planning System, support equipment, spare and repair parts, personnel training and training equipment, ferry and tanker support, flight test, software support, publications and technical documents, U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics and program support

Se vier isso tudo, a maior vantagem desse contrato é a engenharia reversa nas aeronaves e equipamentos. Se a Embraer, com o AMX, entrou de sola na era do jato, imagina com um F-18 e esses armamentos na mão!

[NettoBR]

É um pacotão completo. Com equipamentos não tem do que reclamar.

[P44]

Australia: F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and EA-18G Growler Aircraft


(Source: Defense Security Cooperation Agency; issued February 28, 2013)



WASHINGTON --- The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress Feb. 27 of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Australia for up to 12 F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet aircraft and 12 EA-18G Growler aircraft and associated equipment, parts, training and logistical support for an estimated cost of $ 3.7 billion.

The Government of Australia has requested a possible sale of up to 12 F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet aircraft, 12 EA-18G Growler aircraft, 54 F414-GE-402 engines (48 installed and 6 spares), 2 engine inlet devices, 35 AN/APG-79 Radar Systems, 70 AN/USQ-140 Multifunctional Informational Distribution System Low Volume Terminals (MIDS-LVT) or RT-1957(C)/USQ-190(V) Joint Tactical Radio Systems, 40 AN/ALQ-214 Integrated Countermeasures Systems, 24 AN/ALR-67(V)3 Electronic Warfare Countermeasures Receiving Sets, 72 LAU-127 Guided Missile Launchers, 15 M61A2 Vulcan Cannons, 32AN/AVS-9 Night Vision Goggles or Night Vision Cueing Device System, 40 AN/APX-111 Combined Interrogator Transponders, 80 AN/ARC-210/RT-1990A(C) Communication Systems, 100 Digital Management Devices with KG-60’s, 36 Accurate Navigation Systems, 30 AN/AYK-29(V) Distributed Targeting Systems (DTS), 4 AN/PYQ-21 DTS Mission Planning Transit Cases, 24 AN/ASQ-228 Advance Targeting Forward Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) Pods, 40 AN/PYQ-10 Simple Key Loaders (SKL), 80 KIV-78 Mode 4/5 Module, 48 COMSEC Management Workstations (CMWS), 24 AN/ALE-47 Electronic Warfare Countermeasures Systems, 80 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS), and 400 AN/ALE-55 Fiber Optic Towed Decoys.

Also included are system integration and testing, tools and test equipment, support equipment, spare and repair parts, publications and technical documents, personnel training and training equipment, aircraft ferry and refueling support, U.S. Government and contractor technical assistance, and other related elements of logistics and program support.

The estimated cost is $3.7 billion.

Australia is an important ally in the Western Pacific that contributes significantly to ensuring peace and economic stability in the region. Australia’s efforts in peacekeeping and humanitarian operations have made a significant impact on regional political and economic stability and have served U.S. national security interests.

This proposed sale is consistent with those objectives and facilitates burden sharing with our allies.

The proposed sale will improve Australia’s capability in current and future coalition efforts. Australia will use the enhanced capability as a deterrent to regional threats and to strengthen its homeland defense. Australia will have no difficulty absorbing these additional aircraft into its armed forces.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

The prime contractors will be The Boeing Corporation in St. Louis, Missouri; General Electric Aircraft Engines in Lynn, Massachusetts; Data Link Solutions in Chesterfield, Missouri; BAE Systems in Rockville, Maryland; Northrop Grumman Corporation in Falls Church, VA; Raytheon Corporation in Waltham, MA; and Visions Systems International in San Jose, California.

There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.

Implementation of this proposed sale may require the assignment of additional U.S. Government or contractor representatives to Australia.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law and does not mean the sale has been concluded.


(EDITOR’S NOTE: The above Congressional notification is the answer to the Letter of Request (LOR) Australia sent to the United States seeking cost and availability information for up to an additional 24 Super Hornet aircraft through the Foreign Military Sales program. The LOR was publicly announced Dec. 13, 2012.

At the time, Australia’s DoD noted that “The Australian Government has not made a decision to purchase more Super Hornets. The sending of this LOR does not commit Australia to purchase more Super Hornets. It is being sent so that the Australian Government can further consider all options in 2013 with the latest and best cost and availability information. This has been made clear to both US officials and to the Defence industry.”

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[kekosam]

28 AIM-120 e 28 AIM-9... tá certo que vai integrar armamento nacional, mas não é pouco?

[denilson]

28 AIM-120 e 28 AIM-9... tá certo que vai integrar armamento nacional, mas não é pouco?

Não da 1 míssil de cada tipo por avião, e os 10 AGM-88B HARM e 28 AIM-9M SIDEWINDER (notar que não se trata do AIM-9X) só se for para engenharia reversa, ou nem isso, pois temos nossos "próprios" mísseis equivalentes e pelo que já vi aqui mesmo no fórum, os nossos são melhores.

[denilson]

Só da p fazer isso com 2,8 aviões.

[rodrigo]

28 AIM-120 e 28 AIM-9... tá certo que vai integrar armamento nacional, mas não é pouco?

De acordo com os defensores del chaco, os mísseis vão ficar estocados nos EUA mesmo, tanto faz

[Bolovo]

Ahhhhhhhhhh a LAAD... vai vir junto o F-16BRI?

[Bourne]

Não!!!! F16 é caça de país capacho.

[Bolovo]

Ah, tá. Sabe como é, né? Se levarmos em conta todos os 'boatos' das últimas LAAD, o Brasil tem as Forças Armadas mais poderosas do planeta, quem sabe até do universo...

SÓ QUE NÃO!

[Francisco Carlos Dutzig]

Putz com misseis estocados nos EUA é ruim hein, e a marinha sai algo pro A-12? Meu sonho do SU35 cada vez mais longe.Mas também todos esses anos sonhando e nada cade meu cardenal.

[Luiz Bastos]

Será que eles seriam capazes de vender os caças e prender/estocar os misseis nos USA? Só sendo muito patetas para aceitarem uma idiotice destas. Fui