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Russia to test launch troubled Bulava missile from new sub

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Russia will this year use the Yury Dolgoruky nuclear powered submarine for the first time to carry out test launches of the troubled Bulava missile, a Defense Ministry official said on Wednesday.

"Tests will be conducted in the summer - most likely in June, from the White Sea, when it is free of ice," he said.

So far all test launches have been conducted from the Dmitry Donskoy nuclear powered submarine.

The Yury Dolgoruky is the newest of Russia's Borey-class strategic nuclear submarines, which have been exclusively designed for the Bulava, and is currently undergoing sea trials.

The future development of the Bulava sea-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) has been questioned by some lawmakers and defense industry officials, who have suggested that all efforts should be focused on the existing Sineva SLBM.

MOSCOW, February 24 (RIA Novosti)

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20100224/157990298.html




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Moscow continues talks with Paris on warship deal

19:16 26/02/2010


Moscow and Paris have yet to clinch a deal on the purchase of a French warship and it will not be signed during the Russian president's visit to France on March 1-3, a source in the Russian Defense Ministry said Friday.

The official said Russia would like to buy one Mistral-class ship and that "subsequently, we would like to use their know-how, jointly with France, to build another three."

"We would like to buy such a helicopter carrier and continue cooperation... and continue building [such ships] here [in Russia]," he said.

The Russian military earlier announced that it was considering buying one of the Mistral-class amphibious assault ships, worth 400-500 million euros (around $540-$675 million), and potentially building three or four vessels of the same class in partnership with the French naval shipbuilder DCNS. The French government has approved the sale but Russia has not yet made a final decision.

The Defense Ministry source said earlier in the day that if Moscow buys a Mistral-class carrier from France, it will be used principally as an amphibious command ship. He said the Mistral was basically a "force projection" command ship for various task groups or combined-arms forces operating at sea.

He stressed that from the Russian Navy's perspective, the ship's capability for amphibious assault operations is an important but not the principal function.

There are concerns that Russia could use the warship for amphibious assault operations against Georgia, and the Russian military has said such a vessel would have allowed the Russian Navy to conduct a more efficient operation in the Black Sea during the August 2008 Russia-Georgia war

Speaking in London on February 18, Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili criticized the French authorities for approving the possible sale to Russia.

A Mistral-class ship is capable of transporting and deploying 16 helicopters, four landing barges, up to 70 armored vehicles including 13 battle tanks, and 450 personnel.

Many Russian military and industry experts have questioned the financial and military sense of the purchase, and some believe that Russia simply wants to gain access to advanced naval technology that could be used in the future in potential conflicts with NATO and its allies.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20100226/158019914.html
Russia to use Mistral-class carrier as command ship - source


13:24 26/02/2010


If Moscow buys a Mistral-class helicopter carrier from France, it will be used principally as an amphibious command ship, a Russian Defense Ministry source said on Friday.

The official said the Mistral was basically a "force projection" command ship for various task groups or combined-arms forces operating at sea.

He stressed that from the Russian Navy's perspective, the ship's capability for amphibious assault operations is an important but not principal function.

The Russian military earlier announced that it was considering buying one of the Mistral-class amphibious assault ships, worth 400-500 million euros (around $540-$675 million), and potentially building three or four vessels of the same class in partnership with the French naval shipbuilder DCNS. The French government has approved the sale but Russia has not yet made a final decision.

There are concerns that Russia could use the warship for amphibious assault operations against Georgia, and the Russian military has said such a vessel would have allowed the Russian Navy to conduct a more efficient operation in the Black Sea during the August 2008 Russia-Georgia war

Speaking in London on February 18, Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili criticized the French authorities for approving the possible sale to Russia.

A Mistral-class ship is capable of transporting and deploying 16 helicopters, four landing barges, up to 70 armored vehicles including 13 battle tanks, and 450 personnel.

Many Russian military and industry experts have questioned the financial and military sense of the purchase, and some believe that Russia simply wants to gain access to advanced naval technology that could be used in the future in potential conflicts with NATO and its allies.

MOSCOW, February 26 (RIA Novosti)

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20100226/158015225.html




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Re: Marinha da Federação Russa

#799 Mensagem por alexmabastos » Seg Mar 01, 2010 10:39 am

É off e é para os russófilos:

http://esportes.terra.com.br/vancouver2 ... tml#tvideo

Sem dúvida o hino mais bonito e a mulher mais linda que já ví ( russa ).
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#800 Mensagem por Carlos Mathias » Seg Mar 01, 2010 10:54 am

Muito bacana mesmo.
A melodia do hino russo realmente é linda. :)




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#801 Mensagem por P44 » Seg Mar 01, 2010 2:48 pm

Gostava de conseguir ver esse video :cry: mas não consigo :x deve haver aqui algum bloqueio fascizoide [006]

entretanto, descobri no mp.net

Russia at work on a new Aircraft Carrier

this was kind of a surprise.

http://lenta.ru/news/2010/02/26/carrier/

Technical design of Russia's aircraft carrier will be developed by the end of 2010. This RIA Novosti reported with reference to the statement made by Chief of the Navy Vladimir Vysotsky. According to him, after the will identify key tactical and technical characteristics of the spacecraft, will begin development of working documents.

Vladimir Vysotsky said that development work on the creation of Russia's aircraft carrier already started. "In favorable circumstances, I think that by 2020, the ship could be launched," - declared Commander of the Navy. He also stressed that to build an aircraft carrier in the financing of the state defense order will be very difficult. According to Vysotsky, to achieve this task requires federal target program.

In February 2009 the Head of the state defense order the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC), Anatoly helmets said that Russia's new-generation aircraft carrier will be atomic. He also clarified that the ship will have a displacement of up to 60 thousand tons. According Shlemova, with plans to build three to six aircraft carriers.

In June, Vladimir Vysotsky said that the establishment of standard ships of this type has become bleak. That is why Russia will not build conventional aircraft carriers and naval aviation systems. According to the Commander in Chief of the Navy, they would include "space component, air, sea and advanced technologies in other areas."




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Russia, France open 'exclusive talks' on sale of 4 Mistral warships

Russia and France have started "exclusive talks" on the purchase of four French Mistral-class amphibious-assault ships, President Nicolas Sarkozy said after talks with his Russian counterpart, Dmitry Medvedev.

A source in the Russian Defense Ministry said Friday that Moscow and Paris have yet to clinch a deal on the purchase of the French warship, adding that nothing would be signed during the Russian president's three-day visit to France, which began on Monday.

"Starting from today, exclusive talks on the issue of four Mistral helicopter carriers will be held," Sarkozy told a press conference. "The Mistral is a helicopter carrier we will create for Russia without military equipment."

Sarkozy linked the Mistral sale to Russia to mutual trust between the two states, and Medvedev said: "I hope the talks will end in success."

The French president said two of the four Mistral-class ships under discussion could be built in Russia. "Two plus two seems a rather equal, balanced decision to me," he said.

The Russian military earlier announced that it was considering buying one of the Mistral-class amphibious assault ships, worth 400-500 million euros (around $540-$675 million), and potentially building three or four vessels of the same class in partnership with the French naval shipbuilder DCNS.

A Mistral-class ship is capable of transporting and deploying 16 helicopters, four landing barges, up to 70 armored vehicles including 13 battle tanks, and 450 personnel.

Many Russian military and industry experts have questioned the financial and military sense of the purchase, and some believe that Russia simply wants to gain access to advanced naval technology that could be used in the future in potential conflicts with NATO and its allies.

PARIS, March 1 (RIA Novosti)
http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20100301/158057156.html

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Re: Marinha da Federação Russa

#803 Mensagem por Rui Elias Maltez » Ter Mar 02, 2010 9:52 am

entre 400 e 500 milhões... o custo de um submarino.




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#804 Mensagem por P44 » Ter Mar 02, 2010 9:55 am

Rui Elias Maltez escreveu:entre 400 e 500 milhões... o custo de um submarino.

atenção que isso é por UM Mistral :wink:




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#805 Mensagem por Rui Elias Maltez » Ter Mar 02, 2010 10:05 am

Exacto, o que significa que não é nada de muito transcendente a construção, ou compra de um bom navio de projecção, e o recheio, já nós o temos.

Falta a vontade política, de há anos a esta parte, e a falta de visão estratégica para uma marinha polivalente, como se pretende. As minhas reservas anteriores acerca dos submarinos já as retirei, e agora que estão na fase de estarem prontos, que venham.

Os meus receios na altura era que tinhamos a optar por uma boa marinha de superfície, ou os submarinos.

No final ficamos com uma marinha de superfície menos boa, e se calhar nem com os submarinos ficaremos.




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#806 Mensagem por P44 » Ter Mar 02, 2010 12:11 pm

Há algum tempo falava-se que o Mistral 140 seria uma possibilidade para o NavPol :wink:
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#807 Mensagem por P44 » Ter Mar 02, 2010 12:58 pm

France and Spain Fight to Sell Amphibious Warfare Ships to Russia

02.03.2010 Source: Pravda.Ru URL: http://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/1 ... a_france-0

France is not the only country Russia can buy a helicopter landing platform from. El Pais reports that Spain is also being considered as a potential supplier. According to the Spanish newspaper, Paris and Madrid are conducting a tough competitive battle. While the Spanish ship is better than the French one in a number of ways, France is more influential, and is trying to use its influence to obtain a profitable contract with Moscow.

The newspaper reports that Russia is choosing between French BPC (The Mistral-class landing platform dock ships) and Spanish BPE (a strategic projection vessel) Juan Carlos I. A delegation of high-ranking Russian Navy officials has recently visited Ferrol shipyards of Navantia, manufacturing company, located in La Coruna.


In addition to better technical features (the Spanish vessel is larger and has a bigger capacity than the French one), Juan Carlos I once won a battle with Mistral in the sea. It happened in 2007, during the only international competition held by the Australian Navy. At the end of the competition Australia decided to purchase two ships similar to the Spanish one, El Pais reports.

Yet, France resorted to its political influence to obtain the contract, and its President Nicolas Sarkozy intends to discuss this issue with Dmitry Medvedev who came to Paris with a visit on Monday.

Russia’s defense Minister Serdyukov said that the probability of Russia purchasing French ships was “very high.” Yet, a delegation was sent to Dutch shipyard Damen, and Navantia was asked to submit a proposal, the newspaper reports.

The article also cites the opinion of specialists who believe that Russia’s desire to purchase ships from European suppliers shows how outdated Russian naval equipment is.

At the end of last year, Vladimir Vysotsky, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, stated that the country may announce a tender for a purchase of a landing platform dock ship. The admiral said that France, Spain and the Netherlands were potential participants.

Juan Carlos I

Juan Carlos I is a multipurpose amphibious warfare ship employed to conduct amphibious and air operations, transportation of armed forces divisions, relief operations and evacuations. The ship can be used as a replacement for an aircraft carrier, ARMS-TASS reports.

Juan Carlos I is 230.82 meters long and 32 meters wide. Displacement of the LHD for amphibious operations is 27,079t. The maximum sustained speed is 21kt. Juan Carlos I is capable of transporting equipment and personnel at the distance of 9,000 nautical miles (16,000 km) with the speed of 15kt (28 kilometers an hour).

The ship has a capacity to carry 243 personnel members, and is capable of transporting up to 902 equipped soldiers and up to 46 Leopard tanks.

The vessel has a flight deck of 202 meters (660 ft) long and 32 meters wide. When used as an aircraft carrier , the ship has eight points for helicopters and planes. She can carry up to 30 NH90 aircraft in the aircraft carrier mode, or 19 AV-8 Harrier or 12 helicopters CH-47 Chinook or 12 NH-90 and 11 AV-8 Harrier.

Her flooding deck of 69.3x16.8 meters can carry four LCM or SUPERCAT or one LCAC.

Mistral

Mistral is a multipurpose amphibious assault ship with standard displacement of 156.5 thousand tons, full load displacement of 21.3 thousand tons, and displacement with full dock of 32.3 thousand tons. She is 199 meters long and 32 meters wide. Full speed is 18.8kt. Cruising endurance is up to 19.8 thousand miles.

The ship’s helicopter group includes 16 aircrafts (8 amphibious and 8 battle attack helicopters). The flight deck can accommodate 6 helicopters simultaneously . She can carry four assault boats or two cushion crafts, up to 13 tanks and up to 70 cars, as well as up to 470 soldiers (900 short-term).

Mistral is designed for transporting troops and cargo, landing, and can be used as a command communication ship.

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Madrid y París compiten para vender su primer buque de guerra a Rusia

MIGUEL GONZÁLEZ - Madrid - 01/03/2010

España y Francia mantienen una dura competición por convertirse en el primer país occidental que suministra un barco de guerra a Rusia. La Marina rusa quiere adquirir un buque portahelicópteros con capacidad para el transporte de tropas y ha puesto sus ojos en el Mistral francés y en el Buque de Proyección Estratégica (BPE) español. El proyecto, cuyo montante total no se ha precisado, incluiría la compra de un primer buque y la transferencia de la tecnología necesaria para construir otros tres en astilleros rusos. Sólo el coste del primero ascendería al menos a 600 millones de euros.

Una delegación de alto nivel de la Armada rusa visitó recientemente los astilleros de Ferrol (A Coruña) para conocer el buque Juan Carlos I, que la empresa pública Navantia entregará a la Armada española antes del verano; mientras que el Mistral, construido por los astilleros franceses DCNS, estuvo en noviembre pasado en el puerto ruso de San Petersburgo.

En teoría, el BPE español tendría ventaja, ya que ganó al Mistral en el único concurso internacional en el que ambos han competido: el celebrado en 2007 por la Marina australiana. Australia decidió comprar dos buques LHD, similares al Juan Carlos I, por un montante total de unos 1.500 millones de euros.
El español es más grande

Entre otras ventajas, el BPE español es mayor que el Mistral (más de 27.000 toneladas frente a 22.000) lo que permite que el primero tenga más capacidad y pueda transportar mayor número de helicópteros (hasta 30) y de tropas (un batallón de 900 efectivos con todo su equipo).

Sin embargo, Francia ha puesto su peso político en juego para llevarse el contrato. Está previsto que el presidente francés, Nicolas Sarkozy aborde el asunto con su homólogo ruso, Dmitri Medvédev, en la visita que este inicia hoy a París. El ministro de Defensa ruso, Anatoli Serdiukov, aseguró que las posibilidades de que se compre el portahelicópteros francés son "muy grandes". Pese a ello, la Armada rusa, tras la visita a Ferrol, ha pedido a Navantia que presente una oferta y también se ha dirigido a los astilleros holandeses Damen, aunque estos tienen menos posibilidades porque nunca han construido un buque de este tipo.

La operación ha levantado suspicacias en algunos socios de la OTAN, y las autoridades de París han tenido que dar garantías a los países bálticos de que, si Francia firma el contrato, entregará el buque sin armamento, lo que a efectos operativos carece de relevancia.

Según los expertos, el hecho de que la Armada rusa acuda a suministradores europeos para adquirir un buque revela hasta qué punto ha quedado desfasada militarmente, al menos en algunos segmentos de la tecnología naval.
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#808 Mensagem por P44 » Ter Mar 02, 2010 1:27 pm

Second Project 20380 corvette to be launched by end of March

DATELINE: MOSCOW Feb 27

Severnaya Verf shipyard is completing preparations for launching the Soobrazitelny corvette of Project 20380, the shipyard told Interfax-AVN on Saturday.

“Severnaya Verf will launch the first serially made corvette of Project 20380, Soobrazitelny, at the end of March,” a spokesman said.

He said this is one of the four corvettes that the shipyard is building on orders from the Russian Navy. Soobrazitelny is the second vessel of the project to be ordered after Steregushchy, the lead ship of the project. It was laid down in May 2003. The third corvette, Boiky, was laid down in July 2005 and the fourth, Stoiky, in November 2006.

“The Soobrazitelny is most likely to join the Baltic Fleet,” the spokesman said.

There are several orders from the Russian Navy in the Severnaya Verf portfolio, among them corvettes of Project 20380, the Admiral Gorshkov frigate of Project 22350, liaison vessel Yury Ivanov of Project 18280 and the service boat of Project 21270.
http://www.russiandefenseblog.org/?p=920

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Comprimento : 105m
Boca: 13m
Deslocamento: 2.000t
Propulsão : CODAG
Potência: 27,500kWt
Velocidade: 27 nós
Autonomia : 4.000 milhas a 14 nós
Armamento: Um canhão A190 100mm, CADS-N-1 Kashtan CIWS, mísseis antinavio 3M24 Uran (SS-N-25) e um helicóptero Ka-27




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#809 Mensagem por Carlos Mathias » Ter Mar 02, 2010 8:11 pm

Coisinha mal armada hein!? :roll: :lol:




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#810 Mensagem por WalterGaudério » Ter Mar 02, 2010 9:04 pm

Carlos Mathias escreveu:Coisinha mal armada hein!? :roll: :lol:
E ainda faltou relacionar os torpedos UGST-1...




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