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#151 Mensagem por alcmartin » Qua Nov 12, 2008 5:02 pm

Valeu pela complementaçào e pelas fotos, Brig! :D

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#152 Mensagem por Poti Camarão » Qua Nov 12, 2008 11:07 pm

Não tenho maiores informações dessa barbeirada envolvendo o Falcon e o Caminhão. Queria saber qual dos dois foi o responsável, se o piloto ou o motorista do caminhão. Quem sabe, os dois... hehehe

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#153 Mensagem por Poti Camarão » Qua Nov 12, 2008 11:25 pm

F-22 voando com as "portas abertas"... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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#154 Mensagem por irlan » Qua Nov 12, 2008 11:28 pm

o f-35 tmabém tem essa capacidade de "esconder" as armas dentro do caça?




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#155 Mensagem por Carlos Lima » Qua Nov 12, 2008 11:39 pm

irlan escreveu:o f-35 tmabém tem essa capacidade de "esconder" as armas dentro do caça?
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o F-35 também carregará armas internamente. E se necessário externalmente também.

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#156 Mensagem por Skyway » Qui Nov 13, 2008 12:34 am

Poti Camarão escreveu:Não tenho maiores informações dessa barbeirada envolvendo o Falcon e o Caminhão. Queria saber qual dos dois foi o responsável, se o piloto ou o motorista do caminhão. Quem sabe, os dois... hehehe

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Poti, é um B-1 Lancer.
Mas esse acidente é bizarro mesmo, e não sei se o motorista saiu pouco machucado não. :?




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#157 Mensagem por Skyway » Qui Nov 13, 2008 12:37 am

cb_lima escreveu:
irlan escreveu:o f-35 tmabém tem essa capacidade de "esconder" as armas dentro do caça?
Sim...

o F-35 também carregará armas internamente. E se necessário externalmente também.

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Assim como o próprio F-22 pode carregar externamente.
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#158 Mensagem por Bolovo » Qui Nov 13, 2008 1:26 am

Skyway escreveu:Poti, é um B-1 Lancer.
Mas esse acidente é bizarro mesmo, e não sei se o motorista saiu pouco machucado não. :?
B-1 lancer desse tamanho, tá maluco? Olha bem e veja que é um Dassault Falcon mesmo.




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#159 Mensagem por Skyway » Qui Nov 13, 2008 1:30 am

Viajei na batatinha, é um falcon. :lol:




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#160 Mensagem por Alcantara » Qui Nov 13, 2008 11:43 am

Poti Camarão escreveu:Não tenho maiores informações dessa barbeirada envolvendo o Falcon e o Caminhão. Queria saber qual dos dois foi o responsável, se o piloto ou o motorista do caminhão. Quem sabe, os dois... hehehe
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Skyway escreveu:Poti, é um B-1 Lancer.
Mas esse acidente é bizarro mesmo, e não sei se o motorista saiu pouco machucado não. :?
B-1 lancer desse tamanho, tá maluco? Olha bem e veja que é um Dassault Falcon mesmo.
Complementando, é um Dassault Falcon (Mystere) 20ECM. Além da França, o modelo é usado também pela Noruega e pela Espanha.



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O acidente em questão ocorreu em Bergen - Flesland (BGO / ENBR), Noruega, em 12 de fevereiro de 2004.



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#161 Mensagem por Poti Camarão » Qui Nov 13, 2008 12:49 pm

Em agosto de 2006, um Tornado da RAF teve uma pane e foi obrigado a desviar para o aeroporto de Newcastle. A pista foi curta demais para o caça, que saiu dela por cerca de 15 metros e quebrando o trem de pouso dianteiro.

O piloto eo co-piloto foram levados para o hospital com cortes e contusões, enquanto um alerta de emergência em grande escala foi declarada ao local do acidente.

Fiquei intrigado com esses "cortes" e "contusões"... pela foto nota-se que o Tornado está inteiro. A não ser que os tripulantes se soltaram imaginando possível fogo na aterrisagem... e na quebra do trem de pouco, uma freada brusca deve ter jogado os caras contra os painéis...

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#162 Mensagem por Poti Camarão » Qui Nov 13, 2008 12:59 pm

Sessenta e cinco anos após um caça americano P-38 que combateu na Segunda Guerra Mundial apareceu numa praia no País de Gales. Alguém tem mais alguma informação a respeito desse achado?

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#163 Mensagem por Alcantara » Qui Nov 13, 2008 3:02 pm

Poti Camarão escreveu:Sessenta e cinco anos após um caça americano P-38 que combateu na Segunda Guerra Mundial apareceu numa praia no País de Gales. Alguém tem mais alguma informação a respeito desse achado?

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Lockheed Lightning P-38 rises from Wales beach grave
From correspondents in New York : The Australian : November 16, 2007 01:00am

Sixty-five years after it ran out of fuel and crash-landed on a beach in Wales, an American P-38 fighter plane has emerged from the surf and sand where it lay buried - a World War II relic long forgotten by the US government and unknown to the British public.
Beach strollers, sunbathers and swimmers were often within a few metres of the aircraft, utterly unaware of its existence just under the sand.
Only this past summer did it suddenly reappear when unusual conditions caused the sands to shift and erode.
The startling revelation of the Lockheed Lightning fighter, with its distinctive twin-boom design, has stirred considerable interest in British aviation circles and among officials of the country's aircraft museums, ready to reclaim yet another artefact from history's greatest armed conflict.
Ric Gillespie, head of US-based non-profit group the International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery, learned of the plane's existence in September from a British air history enthusiast andsent a seven-member team to survey the site last month.
It plans to collaborate with British museum experts in recovering the nearly intact but fragile aircraft next spring.
The Imperial War Museum Duxford and the Royal Air Force Museum are among the institutions expressing interest.
"The difficult part is to keep such a dramatic discovery secret. Looting of historic wrecks, aircraft or ships, is a major problem," Mr Gillespie said.
British aviation publications so far have been discreet about the exact location, and local Welsh authorities have agreed to keep the plane under surveillance.
"The fighter is arguably the oldest P-38 in existence, and the oldest surviving 8th Air Force combat aircraft of any type. In that respect it's a major find," Mr Gillespie said.
The twin-engine P-38, a radical design conceived by Lockheed design genius Clarence "Kelly" Johnson in the late 1930s, became one of the war's most successful fighter planes.
The Wales Lightning, built in 1941, reached Britain in early 1942 and flew combat missions along the Dutch-Belgian coast.
Second Lieutenant Robert F. "Fred" Elliott, 24, of North Carolina, was on a gunnery practice mission on September 27, 1942, when a fuel supply error forced him to make an emergency landing on the Welsh beach.
He escaped unhurt, but less than three months later was shot down over Tunisia, in North Africa.
His plane and body were never found.

:idea: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22 ... 01,00.html



P38F Lightning to be recovered from Welsh beach
November 5, 2007
We are delighted to be able to publish a complete transcript of the 'official' TIGHAR press release written by contributor Richard Gillespie.

In the summer of 2007, a WWII Lockheed P-38 Lightning fighter aircraft emerged from the sand of a beach in Wales where it crash landed in 1942. The aircraft is one of the most significant WWII– related archaeological discoveries in recent history and will be recovered in the spring of 2008 for preservation at a major national museum in the United Kingdom.

Upon learning of the discovery in September, Richard Gillespie, executive director of The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery (TIGHAR) alerted curators at the UK national aviation museums (Imperial War Museum, Royal Air Force Museum, and Fleet Air Arm Museum). Interest in the discovery was keen and, as a service to the national museums, Gillespie mobilized a seven person TIGHAR archaeological survey team to assess the aircraft's condition, describe and record the wreck site, and collect data that will be useful in recovery operations planned for the spring of 2008. TIGHAR also notified the United States Air Force Federal Preservation Officer.

Best known for its on-going investigation of the 1937 disappearance of Amelia Earhart and work with the United States Navy to recover a rare WWII TBD “Devastator” torpedo bomber from a lagoon in the Marshall Islands, TIGHAR (http://www.tighar.org) is a U.S.-based non-profit historical and educational foundation. TIGHAR serves the worldwide aviation historical community as a source of expertise and funding for responsible aviation historical research, archaeology and historic preservation. An international membership of 600 scholars, scientists, historians,
educators, archaeologists and enthusiasts supports the organization's research, educational programs and field work.

The TIGHAR archaeological survey of the P-38 was carried out over a four day period from October 8-11, 2007. Assisting and observing were representatives from the Imperial War Museum, Duxford; the Clwyd- Powys Archaeological Trust; the Underwater Archeology Department of the University of Wales, Lampeter; Gwynedd Council; Gwynedd Archaeological Trust; and Snowdonia National Park. A conservator from the Royal Air Force Museum also examined the wreck. The survey was carried out in full compliance with the UK 'Protection of Military Remains Act' of 1986.

The aircraft is believed to be P-38F USAAF serial number 41-7677 assigned to the 49th Squadron, 14th Fighter Group, 8th Air Force. On September 27, 1942, fuel exhaustion during a training mission forced 2nd Lt. Robert F. Elliot to land the large twin-engine fighter in shallow water near a beach in Wales. Lt Elliot survived the crash unharmed but was later killed in action in North Africa. Following the accident, 8th Air Force authorities disarmed, but did not salvage, the aircraft which was soon covered by the shifting sand beneath the surf. At the time of Lt. Elliot's mishap, few civilians in the local area were aware of the accident because the beaches in the United Kingdom were closed to the public during World War II and the press was not allowed to print stories about Allied wrecks. After the war, recreational use of the beaches resumed but the Lightning remained hidden only to re-emerge briefly sixty-five years later. The sands have once again shifted and, like the mythical village of Brigadoon or the Welsh legend of the Bells of Aberdyfi, the fighter has vanished – this time to await its recovery in the spring.

First delivered to the U.S. Army Air Corps in June 1941, the Lockheed P-38 was the only American fighter to remain in continuous production for the entire duration of the United States' involvement in the Second World War. A total of 10,037 examples were built. An estimated thirty-two complete or partial airframes survive in museums and private collections worldwide. Approximately ten aircraft are reportedly airworthy. A similar number are displayed as extensively restored non-flying aircraft. The remaining airframes exist only as wreckage or parts to be used in rebuilds. Only one Lightning, the Smithsonian National Air & Space Museum's P-38J 42-67762, a former training aircraft, survives as an original, unrestored example of the type.

The P-38F was the first model to see combat but no original example of the mark survives in any collection. Nearly all existing P-38s are late-production G, H, J and L models. In Papua New Guinea, components from four P-38F hulks (42-12647, 42-12652, 42-13084, and 42-13105) are reportedly being used to re-construct a single composite aircraft. Another P-38F, 41-7630, was recovered from under the Greenland icecap in 1992 and subsequently re-manufactured as “Glacier Girl” to create an airworthy P-38F. While attractive and evocative, the flyable aircraft is essentially a new P-38.

The recently discovered aircraft is arguably the oldest surviving P-38 and the only intact P-38F in original condition. Prior to the accident, the airplane participated in fighter sweeps over the Dutch and Belgian coasts, making it the only surviving 8th Air Force combat veteran P-38 and probably the oldest surviving 8th Air Force combat veteran of any type.

:idea: http://www.aeroplanemonthly.com/news/P3 ... 53710.html



US fighter plane found on beach
The site where the plane was found is being protected
The wreck of a rare American fighter plane which is thought to have crashed during World War II has appeared on a north Wales beach.


The Lockheed-P38 Lightning has surfaced after more than 60 years because of a change in the beach levels.
Experts from the US have visited the site and confirmed there are no other examples of the aircraft in Europe.
Gwynedd Council's maritime department is to protect the site of the plane while its restoration is arranged.
Barry Davies, maritime officer for the council, said he has known about the wreckage near Harlech for several weeks.
He said the plane was found by a member of the public who was walking on the beach.

High octane fuel
The plane is visible at certain stages of the tide and Mr Davies has visited the site himself and seen the wings.
He said: "It still has a lot of high octane fuel onboard, so it's important that the public doesn't go near it."
Mr Davies said it is probably the first time the aircraft has been seen since crashing.
"There's been a draw down of the beach level so it probably hasn't been exposed before," he added.
Experts from the US have been over to examine the wreckage but no decision has been made about how it will be recovered from the sand.
He said: "At the moment it's going to be a difficult and expensive process to salvage it because of its location."
Gwynedd council is not revealing the precise location of the wreckage in the interest of public safety and to protect the aircraft.
The Lockheed P-38 was designed in 1937. According to the US Air Force, 9,923 P-38s were built by 1945, but only 27 of the aircraft survive.

:idea: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/7076941.stm




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#164 Mensagem por deschamps » Qui Nov 13, 2008 3:11 pm

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#165 Mensagem por Alcantara » Qui Nov 13, 2008 3:39 pm

deschamps escreveu::shock:

detonou alcantara !!!
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