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Re: O REGRESSO DA GRANDE RÚSSIA?

#421 Mensagem por vmonteiro » Qui Set 18, 2008 7:59 pm

Carlos Mathias escreveu::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: O REGRESSO DA GRANDE RÚSSIA?

#422 Mensagem por Guillermo Muñoz » Qui Set 18, 2008 9:35 pm

"má comportamento" de um pais???? O meu deus, esa mulher fala como sem estivese se dirigendo uma criança :oops: :oops:
"ameaças autoritarias"??? E eles com Koreia do Norte, com Irã, com Zindbawe, com Sudã, com Siria, com China, etc, etc, etc. O qué são esas atitudes dele então??? :? :? Ou a acão violenta e sanginaria real em Servia, Iraq, Afganistão, Sudã, etc nos últimos 10 anos; o qué é :?: :?:
Fala serio, mulher imbecil!!!




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#423 Mensagem por P44 » Sex Set 19, 2008 4:57 am

a estupidez, ignorância e arrogância dessa fulana não tem limites

pkp, nunca mais chega o dia de acabar esta admnistração asquerosa.

Só falta colocar "SS" nessa mulher, já que ela já se veste totalmente de preto :mrgreen:




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#424 Mensagem por Oziris » Sex Set 19, 2008 8:25 am

Mais que mulher escrota! :evil:

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#425 Mensagem por cabeça de martelo » Sáb Set 20, 2008 7:59 am

Xiiiiiiiiiiiii tanta maldizente..




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Re: O REGRESSO DA GRANDE RÚSSIA?

#426 Mensagem por pt » Sáb Set 20, 2008 4:27 pm

As verdades custam a engolir ... :twisted:




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Re: O REGRESSO DA GRANDE RÚSSIA?

#427 Mensagem por soultrain » Sáb Set 20, 2008 4:48 pm

Os Russos são uns sacanas, nazistas e o resto mau que não me lembro;

Os Americanos são uns ignorantes, gordos, Red Neck, racistas e mascam tabaco;

Os Brasileiros só querem samba, cerveja e bunda grande;

E o PT é atarracado, gordinho com farto bigode, bebe vinho tinto e é preguiçoso:

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Re: O REGRESSO DA GRANDE RÚSSIA?

#428 Mensagem por pt » Sáb Set 20, 2008 7:12 pm

Estou de acordo quanto aos dirigentes russos serem uma mistura de comunista, nazista e bandido.
Também estou de acordo que os americanos são na maioria uns ignorantes gordos, incapazes de escolher um vice-presidente que não faça o mundo rir.
Desgraçadamente, não conheço nenhum brasileiro que goste de Samba, porque vejo o Brasil a partir de São Paulo... :)

Mas que o pt é gordo tem bigode e bebe tintol ? :shock: :shock:
E preguiçoso ? :evil: :evil: :evil:

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Who's afraid of a new cold war?

By Paul du Quenoy, historian and analyst

Dmitrii Medvedev, the Russian president, says he is not afraid of a new cold war.

Should anyone be?

The recent conflict in Georgia and the surging rhetorical battle between Moscow and Western leaderships have revived ugly twentieth-century memories.

But it is perhaps worth recalling German unification chancellor Otto von Bismarck's warning that Russia is never as strong or as weak as it looks. As we approach the spectre of a new cold war, however, we can rest confident that Russia's strength is of the exaggerated quality.

Last week, Russian bombers landed in Venezuela. After mauling its former colony of Georgia, Russia is now reaching out to a Latin American well-wisher, whose leader spoke positively of its actions and just severed diplomatic relations with Washington.

Ugly shadows of the Cuban Missile Crisis, we are told, loom over the tranquil Caribbean.

One would have to read far into most news stories, however, to learn that Russia's "power projection" consists of just two Tu-160 bombers, which were entered into service in 1987.

Almost as old as the classic film Top Gun, their stated purpose is to train over neutral waters for a few days and then return to Russia.

Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan president and a former air force general himself, plans to fly "one of those monsters," as he calls them, and excitedly announced that "Yankee hegemony is finished."

Pale reflection

Obviously, this is no Cuban Missile Crisis. In 1962 Nikita Khrushchev, the Soviet leader, secretly sent nuclear missiles to communist Cuba. American U-2 spy planes discovered the deployment.

In a tense moment, the US blockaded Cuba to prevent more missiles from arriving and presented solid evidence of the existing missiles to the United Nations.

Within a few days the Soviets backed down and withdrew their weapons in exchange for a US promise to remove outmoded missiles from Turkey.

Two years later Khrushchev's colleagues removed him from power, blaming him for having both brought their country to the brink of nuclear war and backed down in what they called "a humiliation".

Last week's flight to Venezuela is a pale reflection of that cold war flashpoint.

It falls more safely into the "stunt" category potentially dramatic, but lacking both substance and lasting effect. In a few days the twin Tu-160s will be back in Russia.

Given Russia's current military potential, stunts of this type and invading small neighbours will likely remain the limit of its activity.

Seventy per cent of Russian military personnel are still terribly underpaid conscripts. Forcibly enlisted new soldiers are subjected to violent hazing (a harassing initiation ritual), which kills hundreds of them every year (292 in 2006) and seriously injures thousands more.

Faltering Russian hardware

Soviet-era equipment will not be phased out of use until 2020. Most of Russia's navy has rotted in port since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Only 26 of Russia's 50 remaining submarines (compare to 170 in 1991) are currently operational, and the Russian Navy plans to reduce that number to 20.

Like the Tu-160s in Venezuela, Russia's combat aircraft are for the most part decades old.

Only 15 of Russia's latest and most sophisticated fighter jets, the Sukhoi-35s, are in active service. Russia's tank arsenal is still dominated by the antiquated T-72, which entered production in 1971 and was the backbone of Iraq's ill-fated army in 1991 and 2003.

Despite significant increases, Russia's defence budget is less than one-tenth the amount of annual US military spending.

According to a Russian Defense Ministry spokesman, the Tu-160s that just flew across the Atlantic were even "escorted" by NATO fighter jets.

Nato supporting Georgia

Closer to home, Medvedev and Vladimir Putin, the prime minister, face the reality of US and Nato support pouring into Georgia even as their own forces complete their withdrawal from Georgian territory.

Their warnings to Western powers to steer clear of the crisis have been dismissed. The Caucasus pipeline continues to pump oil outside the Russian state monopoly that once controlled all former Soviet energy exports to the West.

Mikhail Saakashvili, the Georgian president, who is pro-Western and George Washington University-educated, remains firmly in power, more than a month after Russia's foreign minister bluntly said "he has to go".

Medvedev and Putin will soon have to live with deployments of anti-missile defence systems in Poland and the Czech Republic - deployments accelerated by the Georgia crisis.

They know that a majority of Ukrainians now favour Nato membership, whereas only a few weeks ago the issue was divisive in that country. They can be reasonably certain that their evolving peaceful relationship with Nato and the civilian nuclear-sharing agreement with the US are now, effectively, dead.

Financial upheaval

So is their long coveted inclusion in the World Trade Organisation, from which they have withdrawn their membership bid rather than face the humiliation of having it vetoed.

They must wonder about the nature of their relationships with China and the ex-Soviet Central Asian republics, which, despite Medvedev's begging at an emergency meeting of Shanghai Cooperation Organisation last month refused to support Russian policy and instead backed the French-sponsored ceasefire.

Finally, Russia's leaders will have to deal with the $500 billion drop in market values following their attack on Georgia, most of which represents hastily withdrawn foreign investments and domestic capital flight abroad.

These figures were current before the catastrophic economic news of earlier this week, when high energy price-dependent Russian markets fell even further and registered their worst losses since the financial crisis of 1998.

Trading had to be suspended on Monday and Wednesday, and the biggest losers were government-controlled energy companies, Russia's only serious hard currency earners.

The Kremlin may secretly wonder whether more than half a trillion dollars is the right price to pay to be able to call the shots in Tskhinvali (pre-conflict population: 30,000), but so far its major move has been for Medvedev to announce increased military spending while trying to reassure a roomful of nervous oligarchs who know better that there is no financial crisis.

A history repeat?

In Venezuela, Chavez will soon be back to worrying about his precarious domestic position. Less than a year ago he lost his own referendum, which would have amended Venezuela's constitution to eliminate term limits on his presidency and vastly expand his government's economic powers to control banking and expropriate private property.

He plans to leave office in 2013 in accordance with the pre-referendum requirement. Like Putin, he may try to replace himself with a hand-picked successor who, like Medvedev, will have to campaign for election.

Karl Marx famously wrote that "history repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce."

The last cold war was tragic for much of the globe. If there is another one, it will almost certainly be a farce for Russia, which, in addition to the problems outlined above, has tried to replace its lost ideology with a grasping obsession with the "order" and "security" that its ex-KGB functionaries imagine to have been benefits of their Soviet experience.

Whether or not a new cold war comes, Medvedev already has a lot to fear within his borders.

Just across the border, Condoleezza Rice, the US secretary of state, and Radek Sikorski, the Polish foreign minister, recently celebrated the signing of a bilateral missile defense agreement by drinking Georgian wine over dinner. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Paul du Quenoy is a professor in the Department of History and Archaeology at the American University of Beirut. He lived in Russia every summer from 1999 to 2007 and was a Fulbright scholar there in 2003-2004.
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Re: O REGRESSO DA GRANDE RÚSSIA?

#429 Mensagem por WalterGaudério » Sáb Set 20, 2008 7:44 pm

P44 escreveu:a estupidez, ignorância e arrogância dessa fulana não tem limites

pkp, nunca mais chega o dia de acabar esta admnistração asquerosa.

Só falta colocar "SS" nessa mulher, já que ela já se veste totalmente de preto :mrgreen:

O grau de cinismo dessa mulher ~bateu todos os records nesta declaração. E olha que não sou anti-americano.




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Re: O REGRESSO DA GRANDE RÚSSIA?

#430 Mensagem por Penguin » Dom Set 21, 2008 10:27 am

Russia’s armed forces

Advancing, blindly
Sep 18th 2008
From The Economist print edition

A more aggressive Russian army is still no match for NATO, but is strong enough to scare some neighbours

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WHEN Russian armoured columns rumbled into Georgia last month, an early casualty was General Anatoly Khrulyov, the head of the 58th Army, who was wounded by shrapnel and evacuated. The Russians lost their most senior commander in the field because, by their own accounts, they did not know where Georgian units were. Russian forces lacked surveillance drones and night-vision equipment. Radios worked poorly, and commanders resorted to using mobile phones. Troops barely co-ordinated with the air force, which lost several jets (among them a Tu-22 strategic bomber) and dropped mostly old “dumb” bombs rather than modern smart ones. The wonder is how the Russians routed the Georgians so swiftly.

The Kremlin had been displaying a new military assertiveness even before its “August war” with Georgia, sending cold-war bombers buzzing close to European and American airspace, holding high-profile naval exercises, announcing ambitious plans to build new aircraft carriers and testing new ballistic missiles. What Vladimir Putin, Russia’s prime minister, has called a “punch in the face” for Georgia may have been an attempt to demonstrate the restoration of Russia’s military power. But it also exposed the poor results from Russia’s recent surge in defence spending.

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This has doubled in nominal rouble terms since 2004. Yet much of the extra money has been eaten away by inflation. In any case, Russia’s defence spending is a fraction of America’s (see chart).

Russian commanders have spoken bluntly about shortcomings. President Dmitry Medvedev says that reforming and re-equipping the armed forces will be a top priority. On September 16th, Mr Putin announced a 27% increase in spending next year on “national defence and security”.

Yet much of that money goes on maintaining Russia’s nuclear deterrent. During the cold war it was the West that relied on nuclear weapons to offset the Soviet Union’s conventional superiority; now it is the other way around. Although in better shape than the rest of Russia’s military units, the nuclear forces have not escaped the post-Soviet rot. The first of its new Borey-class nuclear submarines launched last year is useless because its planned intercontinental ballistic missile, the Bulava, designed to outwit anti-missile defences, has been plagued by test failures (Western officials say it has problems with its range too).

Outside experts estimate that one-third of defence spending is embezzled or otherwise mis-spent. Anatoly Serdyukov, the defence minister, has tried to curb corruption among the top brass. Yet Alexander Golts, a Moscow-based defence expert, says “the Russian army is a black hole” into which money simply disappears. The result is a military fantasy in which Russia sends barely functional bombers and warships on long-range missions.

Take the Admiral Kuznetsov, Russia’s only aircraft-carrier (once named after the Georgian capital, Tbilisi). It has undergone interminable repairs since being commissioned in 1985. It took part in rare exercises in the Atlantic and the Mediterranean between December 2007 and February this year. In the view of Western experts, the Russians did well simply to avoid its breaking down. Russia’s announcement in July that it will build five or six more aircraft carriers has been met with derision. Russia does not have shipyards able to build such vessels; the Admiral Kuznetsov was built in a shipyard that is now in Ukraine.

That said, Russia makes some good equipment, such as air-defence systems. The infusion of money helps it exercise its atrophied military muscles. A growing proportion of soldiers are volunteers (known as kontraktniki), who are more disciplined than much-abused conscripts. The slow move to a smaller, all-professional army in place of the million-strong, largely conscript force is made more urgent by Russia’s demographic decline.

The forces that invaded Georgia were largely made up of professionals. Despite problems in keeping them supplied, they were for the most part better behaved than the South Ossetian militiamen who looted and destroyed Georgian villages. The Russian army seems to have fought better in Georgia than it did in either of the post-Soviet wars in Chechnya, the now-subdued breakaway province across the border from Georgia. Indeed, the forces sent into Georgia included the Vostok battalion, made up of pro-Kremlin Chechens. Russia’s ability quickly to deploy 20,000-odd soldiers in Georgia (rehearsed in exercises during the summer) showed some skill.

“Russian forces are not modern. Some of their weapons date back to the 1960s and 1970s. But that does not mean they cannot kill you,” says Pavel Felgenhauer, a Russian defence writer for Novaya Gazeta, a newspaper. The Russians may not be a match for even a medium-sized Western army, say experts, but they are good enough to scare the poor, post-Soviet states in the “near abroad”.

In the words of a senior American official, “the war in Georgia does not show the Russians have greater military capability, but it demonstrates a greater willingness to use force.” NATO will have to reassess its assumptions about Russia, albeit cautiously to “avoid creating a self-fulfilling prophecy”, as the official puts it.

The main threats to the West now are Russia’s manipulation of oil and gas exports, its diplomatic spoiling tactics, and its dalliances with Iran, Syria and Venezuela. The danger of a direct attack by Russia is remote. But the indirect threat of its more advanced weapons being sold to such potential Western foes is a growing worry.




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Re: O REGRESSO DA GRANDE RÚSSIA?

#431 Mensagem por Carlos Mathias » Dom Set 21, 2008 11:51 am

Uma hora os americanos mostram a Rússia como perigo comunista. Noutra hora dizem que é um país falido sem nenhuma importância militar, que nem combustível para seus navios consegue alocar.

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#432 Mensagem por Penguin » Dom Set 21, 2008 12:44 pm

Carlos Mathias escreveu:Uma hora os americanos mostram a Rússia como perigo comunista. Noutra hora dizem que é um país falido sem nenhuma importância militar, que nem combustível para seus navios consegue alocar.

BÚÚÚÚÚÚÚÚÚÚÚÚÚÚÚU´! Os brumeilhos estão a chegaire!
As opinioes sao plurais e vem de muitas fontes em muitos paises. Nao espere uniformidade entre elas.

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#433 Mensagem por Bolovo » Seg Set 22, 2008 5:38 pm

Todos esses posts... e hoje passo numa livraria e vejo tal livro:

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A Era dos Assassinos
Felshtinsky, Yuri

Todos os métodos (lícitos e ilícitos) do russo mais poderoso neste século estão nessa instigante biografia de Vladimir Putin. Baseado em uma meticulosa pesquisa de cinco anos, Felshtinsky conta como uma implacável corporação secreta reivindicou a Rússia e cometeu atrocidades sob a tutela de Putin, durante os oito anos de sua presidência.


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#434 Mensagem por Guilhermerb » Ter Set 23, 2008 12:14 am

Bolovo escreveu:Todos esses posts... e hoje passo numa livraria e vejo tal livro:

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A Era dos Assassinos
Felshtinsky, Yuri

Todos os métodos (lícitos e ilícitos) do russo mais poderoso neste século estão nessa instigante biografia de Vladimir Putin. Baseado em uma meticulosa pesquisa de cinco anos, Felshtinsky conta como uma implacável corporação secreta reivindicou a Rússia e cometeu atrocidades sob a tutela de Putin, durante os oito anos de sua presidência.


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acho que vou comprar hahaha :mrgreen:

deve ser a escritura sagrada do PT




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#435 Mensagem por P44 » Ter Set 23, 2008 4:53 am

eu acho que o Putin tb está metido nisto:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 767971.ece

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meanwhile....
Russian strategic bombers to join military drills with Belarus
16:25 | 22/ 09/ 2008



MOSCOW, September 22 (RIA Novosti) - Russian strategic bombers will conduct practice launches of various types of missiles on October 6-12 during large-scale Russia-Belarus military exercises which started Monday, the Air Force commander said. (Russian strategic bombers - Image gallery)

The Stability-2008 exercises will last until October 21 in various regions of Russia and Belarus with the goal of practicing strategic deployment of the Armed Forces, including the nuclear triad, to counter potential threats near the Russian border. "The exercise will involve the majority of personnel and strategic aircraft in service with strategic aviation," Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said. "The crews will deploy the entire range of on-board weaponry."

According to various sources, the Russian Air Force currently has in service at least 141 Tu-22M3 Backfire-C, 40 Tu-95 Bear-H and 16 modernized Tu-160 Blackjack strategic bombers.

The bombers carry long-range cruise missiles and short-range nuclear missiles as primary weaponry.

Moscow has repeatedly stressed the need to continue the development of Russia's Strategic Nuclear Forces, including its airborne component, and said they should be able to respond promptly and effectively to any aggression.

The Russian Air Force combat training program has scheduled more than 200 exercises with 350 live firing drills for the second half of 2008.

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