Marinha da República Popular da China (PLAN)

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#76 Mensagem por PRick » Qua Out 10, 2007 1:58 pm

cabeça de martelo escreveu:Então não leram os Lusiadas de Luis Vaz de camões? O Adamastor é o actual Cabo da Boa Esperança.


O problema com o nome ADAMASTOR foi uma maldita novela da Rede Globo, não tem Camões ou Cabo que dê jeito, depois de cair na boca do povo. :twisted:

O pior foi com o Bráulio, fizeram um anúncio se referindo ao órgão sexual masculino como sendo um Bráulio, depois que viram a trapalhada já era tarde, quem se chamava Braúlio teve que mudar de nome! [018]

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#77 Mensagem por antoninho » Qua Out 10, 2007 4:27 pm

Para tirar duvidas do dito...

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#78 Mensagem por Junker » Qua Out 10, 2007 11:30 pm

Hsiung Feng III durante recente desfile militar em Taiwan

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A marinha chinesa que se cuide!




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#79 Mensagem por Carlos Mathias » Qui Out 11, 2007 12:11 am

Mas nesse caminhão de carregar poste?




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#80 Mensagem por P44 » Qui Out 11, 2007 7:34 am

Junker escreveu:Hsiung Feng III durante recente desfile militar em Taiwan

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A marinha chinesa que se cuide!


Isso é da Revell ou da Tamyia????? :lol: :lol:




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#81 Mensagem por P44 » Qua Abr 23, 2008 11:25 am

Secret Sanya - China's new nuclear naval base revealed

21 April 2008

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China is constructing a major underground nuclear submarine base near Sanya, on Hainan Island off its southern coast, Jane's can confirm. Although Asian military sources have disclosed this fact to Jane's since 2002, high-resolution commercially available satellite imagery from DigitalGlobe allows independent verification of the previous suggestions.

The extent of construction indicates the Sanya base (also known as Yulin) could become a key future base for People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) aircraft carriers and other power-projection ships. In December 2007, perhaps in concert with a major PLAN exercise the previous month, the PLA moved its first Type 094 second-generation nuclear ballistic missile submarine (SSBN) to Sanya.

An underground submarine base and the positioning of China's most advanced sub-surface combatants at Sanya would have implications for China's control of the South China Sea and the strategically vital straits in the area. Further satellite imagery suggests the construction of Sanya has been supported by a gradual military build-up in the Paracel Islands over the last 20 years, and the transformation of the Chinese-occupied features in the Spratly Island group into assets that could support a range of military operations.

China's nuclear and naval build-up at Sanya underlines Beijing's desire to assert tighter control over this region. China's increasing dependence on imported petroleum and mineral resources has contributed to an intensified Chinese concern about defending its access to vital sea lanes, particularly to its south. It is this concern that in large part is driving China's development of power-projection naval forces such as aircraft carriers and long-range nuclear submarines.

China has pursued this build-up at Sanya with little fanfare, offering no public explanations regarding its plan to base nuclear weapons or advanced naval platforms there.

For both regional and extra-regional powers, it will be difficult to ignore that China is now building a major naval base at Sanya and may be preparing to house and protect a large proportion of its nuclear forces here, and even operate them from this base. This development so close to the Southeast Asian sea lanes so vital to the economies of Asia can only cause concern far beyond these straits.

Image: Digital imagery has confirmed Sanya's place as a major future Chinese naval base. (DigitalGlobe)
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#82 Mensagem por soultrain » Ter Dez 09, 2008 3:10 pm






"O que se percebe hoje é que os idiotas perderam a modéstia. E nós temos de ter tolerância e compreensão também com os idiotas, que são exatamente aqueles que escrevem para o esquecimento" :!:


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#83 Mensagem por P44 » Qua Dez 10, 2008 7:39 am

no keypublisihng foruns dizem que aparentemente as fotos não mostram nada de novo, colocaram lá esta foto:
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que dizem ser datada de fevereiro de 2007 onde já se veêm essas "coisas" assinaladas...

por outro lado dizem que esse blog é de confiança...em que ficamos? :?




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#84 Mensagem por P44 » Qui Dez 18, 2008 8:34 am

de qq modo o Varyag deverá estar mm a andar, a avaliar por isto:

Ukraine to help train China's navy pilots

By Andrei Chang
Column: Military MightPublished: December 05, 2008

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Hong Kong, China — China has been sending military personnel to the Ukraine to learn how the country trains its aircraft carrier pilots, in preparation for the aircraft carrier battle group it eventually plans to build.
According to a source in the Ukrainian military industry, China first sent a large naval delegation, headed by the deputy chief of the PLA Navy, to visit the Ukrainian Navy Aviation Force training centers in the southern port cities of Odessa and Sevastopol in October, 2006.

The Chinese visited the Research Test and Flying Training Center at Nitka on the Crimean Peninsula, and the two sides discussed the possibility of Ukraine helping to train China’s navy aviation force and aircraft carrier pilots, the source said. Since then, Chinese engineers, pilots and naval technical experts have made frequent visits to Nitka.

The focus of much of China’s current military cooperation with Russia and Ukraine is on producing large aircraft and an aircraft carrier. Ukraine has provided China with a prototype of its T-10K shipborne fighter. By dissecting the T-10K – an earlier variant of the Su-33 fighter – China hopes to acquire the capability to independently develop its own shipborne fighters.

The single T-10K that China purchased from Ukraine was originally based at the Nitka center, which is equipped with a range of simulators to train pilots in jump take-offs, arresting landings and contingency responses. The training modules simulate the release of the arresting hook on take-off and its use on landing at a speed of 250 kilometers (155 miles) per hour.

The Nikta center previously trained a generation of Soviet pilots on the Su-33 and MiG-29K fighters. Now the 297th Fighter Regiment of the Russian Navy Aviation Force is undergoing training there.

As this author reported earlier, China has imported four sets of aircraft carrier landing assistance equipment and arresting hooks. The Chinese are in the process of building their own aircraft carrier training base, which is why they have been so keenly interested in Nitka’s simulators, training software, management procedures and technologies.

The training of aircraft carrier fighter pilots is a crucial step in putting together an aircraft carrier fleet. The training program is extremely harsh. According to the Ukrainian source, the most basic training for short-istance take-offs, landings and ski-jumps would take at least six months.

Ukraine was once the main training center for the Soviet Union’s aircraft carrier fighter pilots. It now intends to train navy pilots not only for China, but also for India and other countries that aspire to possess aircraft carriers, a source from Nitka says.

The Indian Navy is in the process of purchasing an aircraft carrier from Russia, as well as MiG-29K and MiG-29UBK fighters, the first batch of which is expected to be delivered to India by the end of the year – already a year later than scheduled. The pilots for those fighters will most likely be trained at Nitka.

China’s dealings with Ukraine reconfirm that the PLA Navy is moving forward on its aircraft carrier project. The Chinese carrier is apparently based on a Russian design; otherwise China would not be interested in Ukraine’s simulators. This means China’s aircraft carrier will very likely adopt the Russian methods of ski-jump take-off and landing.

China has also taken practical steps to build an aircraft carrier training base. The first step is to train shipborne fighter pilots at this base, followed by basic short distance take-off and landing training on the disabled Soviet aircraft carrier Varyag, which China purchased in 1998.

Sources from the Ukrainian military industry have confirmed on several occasions that the Varyag is unlikely to be restored to an operational fighter aircraft carrier, and will most likely only be used as a training platform.

Although the ship was purchased by a Hong Kong company ostensibly to be converted into a casino, Ukrainian sources say they were aware of China’s intentions from the beginning to use it for military purposes. The aircraft carrier, repainted with the colors of the PLA Navy, is now in the Chinese port city of Dalian.

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(Andrei Chang is editor-in-chief of Kanwa Defense Review Monthly, registered in Toronto, Canada.)

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#85 Mensagem por P44 » Qua Fev 04, 2009 2:38 pm

Tuesday, February 3, 2009
Chinese warships force Indian submarine to surface
Chinese navy sees off Indian sub

Chinese warships sent to fight piracy in waters off Somalia were stalked by an Indian attack submarine and the two sides became locked in a tense standoff for at least half an hour, mainland media reported yesterday.

After rounds of manoeuvring during which both sides tried to test for weaknesses in the other's sonar system, the two Chinese warships managed to force the Indian submarine to surface. The Indian vessel left without further confrontation.

The incident was reported by Qingdao Chenbao yesterday and was widely carried by major mainland websites such as Sina.com and QQ. Both Beijing and New Delhi were silent about the matter.

This is the first reported military standoff between China and India since a bitter border war in 1962.

The incident took place on January 15 in waters near the Bab Al-Mandab Strait, which separates Yemen and Djibouti, at the western end of the Gulf of Aden. The Chinese destroyers had picked up an unidentified submarine on their sonar, the report said.

The Chinese navy soon identified it as a 70-metre-long vessel armed with 20 torpedoes. Although the report did not directly specify the model, it provided a file photo of a Kilo-class submarine belonging to the Indian navy, which fit the description.

The submarine tried to evade the Chinese warships by diving deeper. But the warships continued the chase.

The report said the Chinese ships sent an anti-submarine helicopter to help track the submarine, which had tried to jam the Chinese warships' sonar system.

But the two destroyers eventually cornered the submarine and forced it to surface. The report said the submarine had been trailing the Chinese ships since they had entered the Indian Ocean on the way to Somalia.

It said that at one point the Chinese commander even ordered the helicopter to have its anti-submarine torpedoes ready.

The Indian submarine is believed to have been collecting electronic signals and sonar data from the Chinese warships. Such information would be crucial in naval conflicts.

The two destroyers China sent to Somalia are among its most advanced warships. One of the destroyers, Haikou, was commissioned in 2005.

It is rare for mainland media to report such a close encounter between the Chinese navy and foreign warships. Although deemed a provocative and unfriendly gesture, it was not unusual for one country to send submarines to collect other navies' information.

In 2006, a Chinese submarine was detected stalking the US aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk near the Japanese island of Okinawa. The Chinese submarine eventually surfaced close to the US battle group.

From South China morning post




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#86 Mensagem por cabeça de martelo » Qua Fev 04, 2009 3:42 pm

It is rare for mainland media to report such a close encounter between the Chinese navy and foreign warships. Although deemed a provocative and unfriendly gesture, it was not unusual for one country to send submarines to collect other navies' information.
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#87 Mensagem por Moccelin » Qua Fev 04, 2009 8:32 pm

Cara, esse tipo de "relação internacional" é muito engraçado de se ver... É igual imaginar aquela cena, em plena guerra fria um Bear carregado de armamento anti-navio com dois caças da OTAN voando em formação com ele em águas internacionais... Ou então uma coisa que eu nunca ví confirmações, mas que "dizem" que existia: os "pegas" entre caças Americanos e Soviéticos que terminavam quando um conseguia "travar" no outro, aí cada um seguia o seu caminho (bem ao estilo primeiros minutos de Top Gun)...




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#88 Mensagem por P44 » Seg Abr 20, 2009 7:52 am

COMEMORAÇÕES do 60º ANIVERSÁRIO DA PLAN

http://www.cctv.com/english/special/Chi ... ndex.shtml


(o Garcia d'Ávila G29 é um dos navios estrangeiros em visita)

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#89 Mensagem por P44 » Sáb Mai 02, 2009 7:41 am

China has high naval ambitions

By Michael Bristow
BBC News, Qingdao, China

The military parade to mark the 60th anniversary of China's navy is not just a chance for the Chinese to celebrate.

It is also a reminder that China is now an important naval power - and will become more important in the future.

Its military leaders openly admit that they want to build bigger, better warships for missions far away from the country's coastal waters.

But despite improvements in recent years, analysts say China's navy is still not able to compete with the world's leading powers.

"In no way is the Chinese navy on a par with the United States - or even Japan," said Bates Gill, an expert on the Chinese military.

Sovereignty claims

There is no doubt that China has been building up its navy to cope with new threats and a changing political landscape.

China used to focus its military spending on its land forces, to counter potential problems from Russia, India and Vietnam.

As those land-based threats have receded, new areas of possible conflict have emerged at sea.

China has become more assertive in its aim to establish its sovereignty claims over a string of islands to its east and south.

This has led to arguments with, among others, Japan and Taiwan, a self-governing island that China says must be reunited with the mainland.

China also has to consider the US, the region's pre-eminent naval power and Taiwan's main source of military and diplomatic support.

"This has placed huge demands on China to focus on its maritime capabilities in a way that it has not been asked to do before," said Mr Gill, director of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.

China is also keen to use its navy to project its power further abroad, particularly to protect the country's trade routes.

This is made clear in the country's latest report on its military forces, entitled China's National Defence and published at the end of last year.

Bigger warships

"The navy has been striving to gradually develop its capabilities of conducting co-operation in distant waters," the report says.

China despatched a small flotilla to the Gulf of Aden in December to join an international effect to combat piracy, particularly off Somalia.

Analysts see this as evidence of China's willingness to operate in waters far from home - and its ability to do so.

To carry out these missions China wants bigger and better warships, a point made by the navy's commander-in-chief, Admiral Wu Shengli, last week.

China seems particularly keen to have an aircraft carrier - a warship that has symbolic power as well as practical uses.

There has been intense speculation over recent months that Beijing will soon announce its intention to develop its first aircraft carrier.

It is an issue touched upon in the US Pentagon's annual report to Congress, published recently, about China's military capabilities.

The report says that China has an aircraft carrier research and design programme, and is interested in buying carrier-borne aircraft from Russia.

But at the moment China does not have such a vessel, despite the great strides made by the navy over the last 10-15 years.

The Chinese navy managed to circumnavigate the globe only in 2002, nearly 100 years after the US Great White Fleet completed the same task.

Andrew Yang, chairman of the Chinese Council for Advanced Policy Studies in Taiwan, said Chinese ships were mostly inferior to US ships.

He said China had just two advanced Type 051C destroyers, which are fitted with cutting-edge air defence missile systems.

Mr Yang added: "These ships are not combat proven. We don't know how capable the Chinese navy is, even if they have the weapons."

But perhaps all this misses the point of this week's naval parade.

As military analyst Dennis J Blasko makes clear in a recent article, this show of force will in itself act as a deterrent.

"The mission of the Chinese armed forces is not only to be prepared to fight wars, but also to deter or prevent their outbreak," he wrote.
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Published: 2009/04/23 02:02:16 GMT

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#90 Mensagem por saullo » Sáb Mai 02, 2009 1:01 pm

Legal essa comparação, mas foram esquecidos os cruzadores, onde a USN tem 22 Ticonderogas e a China nenhum.

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