Collins x Kilo

[Penguin]

Indonesia sub plans no sweat for navy Font Size: Cameron Stewart and Stephen Fitzpatrick | September 06, 2007
INDONESIA'S plans to buy Russian Kilo-class submarines will notcause Australian navy submariners to break out into a coldsweat.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st ... 77,00.html

Although the two navies are unlikely ever to find themselves fighting each other, submarine experts say that if they did, Australia's Collins-class submarines would be likely to send the Kilos to the bottom of the ocean.

"The Kilos are less technically advanced than the Collins-class, and the Kilo does not match up in either capability or performance," one submariner, who asked not to be named, told The Australian yesterday.

"In their day, the Kilos were a leap forward in technology, but best of luck to them if they tried to match it with the Collins today. I think they would lose."

Indonesia has reportedly agreed to buy two Kilo-class submarines from Russia, and hopes to purchase up to eight more. If so, it would be the first time a significant, potentially rival, submarine fleet was based on Australia's doorstep.

The Kilo and the Collins are of similar size and share a similar range, although the Collins has greater firepower and usually carries more torpedoes and mines than the Kilo.

The Kilos are showing signs of age, having been first commissioned in 1982.

The greatest advantage the Collins would have over an Indonesian navy Kilo is that the Indonesians are not familiar with modern submarine warfare and would probably be a relatively easy target for their better-trained and better-resourced counterparts in the Australian navy.

Indonesian Defence Minister Juwono Sudarsono yesterday hailed increased military and business ties with Russia, telling the world to expect similarly strengthened links between Jakarta and neighbouring giant China.

Russian President Vladimir Putin will spend today in Jakarta with a business and military delegation expected to sign deals worth up to $US10 billion ($12billion). These include a $US1 billion line of credit to be used on Russian military hardware, including tanks, helicopters and submarines.

Dr Sudarsono, who is overseeing a rebuilding of Indonesia's weakened defence forces, said this week that he would travel to China next month to seal electronics and radar deals.

Russia is flexing its muscles in the region, so the first visit of a Russian president to Jakarta was regarded by Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono as being important enough to delay his departure to the APEC summit in Sydney.

[WalterGaudério]

É..., os Aussies estão sob pressão. Com Kilos na Indonésia e China, não precisa de mais nada...

Não é à toa que eles estarão nos próximos anos construindo novos subs da Classe Collins advanced.

sds

Walter

[dron_pizdec]

Tudo que o submarinista Australiano disse e verdade, mas tem uma differencia:
Os submarinos da classe Collins sao os meios offansivos, e os submarinos da classe Kilo sao os meios defansivos.