F-16 e limitações operacionais

[Penguin]

AH e já me esquecia, a velocidade mais elevada atingida por um Raptor em testes com JDAM´s foi Mach 1,5 e não aparece em lado nenhum se foi com ou sem pós combustão.
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/wms/findP ... i=0&sc=400

Prezado Sintra,

O link acima diz que o Raptor lancou JDAM a Mach 1,5 e a 50.000ft, atingindo o alvo a 24 nm e que este foi o mais rapido e mais alto lancamento de JDAM pelo F-22 ate agora.

Se eh aceito que o F-22 atinge supercruzeiro sem pos-combustao com carga de armas internas, pouco importa se seja AIM-120, AIM-9, JDAM ou outras opcoes.


Sds,

Jacques

E aonde é que o nº de mach 1,73 sem pós combustão apareceu? Eu vou dar uma dica, foi num fórum, através de um senhor chamado "Dozer"... Com um avião em que o combustível estava a menos de meio...

Abraços

No google encontra-se muitas fontes que citam o EX-USAF Chief of Staff Gen. John P. Jumper que afirma que voo no F-22 a Mach 1,7 sem pos-combustao.

Um tal de Toan do F-16.net transcreve parte de um artigo que o Gen. Jumper cita o Mach 1,7 (infelizmente o link que ele postou nao funciona, mas ha muitas outras citacoes em distintos sites):

“Today I flew the Raptor at speeds exceeding Mach 1.7 without afterburners,” General Jumper said. “To be able to go that fast without afterburners means that nobody can get you in their sights or get a lock-on. The aircraft’s impressive stealth capability, combined with its super cruise (capability), will give any adversary a very hard time.” (Courtesy of Air Education and Training Command News Service).

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-5474.html

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[Sintra]

AH e já me esquecia, a velocidade mais elevada atingida por um Raptor em testes com JDAM´s foi Mach 1,5 e não aparece em lado nenhum se foi com ou sem pós combustão.
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/wms/findP ... i=0&sc=400

Prezado Sintra,

O link acima diz que o Raptor lancou JDAM a Mach 1,5 e a 50.000ft, atingindo o alvo a 24 nm e que este foi o mais rapido e mais alto lancamento de JDAM pelo F-22 ate agora.

Se eh aceito que o F-22 atinge supercruzeiro sem pos-combustao com carga de armas internas, pouco importa se seja AIM-120, AIM-9, JDAM ou outras opcoes.


Sds,

Jacques

E aonde é que o nº de mach 1,73 sem pós combustão apareceu? Eu vou dar uma dica, foi num fórum, através de um senhor chamado "Dozer"... Com um avião em que o combustível estava a menos de meio...

Abraços

No google encontra-se muitas fontes que citam o EX-USAF Chief of Staff Gen. John P. Jumper que afirma que voo no F-22 a Mach 1,7 sem pos-combustao.

Um tal de Toan do F-16.net transcreve parte de um artigo que o Gen. Jumper cita o Mach 1,7 (infelizmente o link que ele postou nao funciona, mas ha muitas outras citacoes em distintos sites):

“Today I flew the Raptor at speeds exceeding Mach 1.7 without afterburners,” General Jumper said. “To be able to go that fast without afterburners means that nobody can get you in their sights or get a lock-on. The aircraft’s impressive stealth capability, combined with its super cruise (capability), will give any adversary a very hard time.” (Courtesy of Air Education and Training Command News Service).

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-5474.html

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Obrigado

Abraços

[soultrain]

Last Update: Saturday, June 16, 2007. 6:17am (AEST)
F-16 crashes on Iraq mission
A US Air Force (USAF) F-16 fighter jet with one crew member aboard has crashed during a mission in Iraq.

A USAF statement said the plane "was flying on a close air support mission" but did not clarify the pilot's fate.

"The cause of the accident is under investigation," it said.

The plane was deployed to the 332nd Air Expeditionary Wing, whose headquarters are at an air base near Balad, 80 kilometres north of Baghdad.

At least nine helicopters have come down in Iraq in 2007, killing 30 people, mainly US soldiers, but military plane crashes have been rare.

In May 2005, two Marine Corps F/A-18 Hornet aircraft crashed in Iraq and officials said at the time they believed the warplanes may have collided in mid-air.

Shrine blown up

Assailants pretending to be a film crew blew up and destroyed a Sunni shrine near the southern Iraqi city of Basra as militants carried out more revenge attacks for the bombing of a Shiite shrine.

The US military, meanwhile, announced the deaths of five more soldiers taking its losses already this month to 36.

The shrine of Talha bin Obeidallah in the town of Zubair, west of overwhelmingly Shiite Basra, was destroyed at dawn, an Iraqi army officer told AFP.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki condemned what he described as a terrorist act and ordered an indefinite curfew imposed on British-patrolled Basra to prevent any further tit-for-tat violence.

Several Sunni mosques have been attacked in Iraq since Wednesday's bombing of the Shiite Al-Askari shrine in the city of Samarra, north of Baghdad.

Immediately after the bombing, at least four Sunni mosques were targeted, three south of Baghdad in the town of Iskandiriyah and one in the capital.

Three more were hit on Thursday and the US military said a Shiite mosque in the town of Mahmudiyah, south of Baghdad, was also attacked.

But the imposition of curfews in both Samarra and Baghdad helped prevent any wider outbreak of sectarian violence.

On Friday, the curfew in Baghdad which was to be lifted Saturday was further extended till Sunday morning, state television reported, quoting government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh.

Gates flies in

Meanwhile US Defence Secretary Robert Gates flew into Baghdad to urge Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to make stronger efforts at reconciliation amid fears that another round of mosque bombings will further inflame sectarian violence.

"Frankly, we're disappointed with the progress so far, and hope that this most recent bombing by Al Qaeda won't further disrupt or delay the process," Gates told reporters as he flew to Baghdad for an unannounced visit.

He follows close on the heels of US Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte and Admiral William Fallon, the US commander in the Middle East, who also warned Mr Maliki that he needs to show progress in reconciling the bitterly divided country.

Mr Gates told reporters he had full confidence in General David Petraeus, the top US commander in Iraq, who is supposed to report in September on whether a surge in US combat forces has succeeded in bringing down the violence.

Senator Harry Reid, the Senate Majority Leader, this week accused Gen Petraeus of being overly optimistic about conditions in Iraq in an unusual attack on a US military leader.

"He has not pulled his punches at all," Mr Gates said of Gen Petraeus. The general has been realistic about the difficulties of securing Baghdad and the obstacles to reconciliation, he said.

"I have every confidence in General Petraeus and also in his ability and willingness to call it like he sees it. And I think that will be an honest appraisal," Mr Gates said in reference to the September report.

-Reuters/AFP

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Segundo F-16 a cair no Iraque em menos de um mês.

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[Penguin]

Last Update: Saturday, June 16, 2007. 6:17am (AEST)
F-16 crashes on Iraq mission
A US Air Force (USAF) F-16 fighter jet with one crew member aboard has crashed during a mission in Iraq.

A USAF statement said the plane "was flying on a close air support mission" but did not clarify the pilot's fate.

"The cause of the accident is under investigation," it said.

The plane was deployed to the 332nd Air Expeditionary Wing, whose headquarters are at an air base near Balad, 80 kilometres north of Baghdad.

At least nine helicopters have come down in Iraq in 2007, killing 30 people, mainly US soldiers, but military plane crashes have been rare.

In May 2005, two Marine Corps F/A-18 Hornet aircraft crashed in Iraq and officials said at the time they believed the warplanes may have collided in mid-air.

Shrine blown up

Assailants pretending to be a film crew blew up and destroyed a Sunni shrine near the southern Iraqi city of Basra as militants carried out more revenge attacks for the bombing of a Shiite shrine.

The US military, meanwhile, announced the deaths of five more soldiers taking its losses already this month to 36.

The shrine of Talha bin Obeidallah in the town of Zubair, west of overwhelmingly Shiite Basra, was destroyed at dawn, an Iraqi army officer told AFP.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki condemned what he described as a terrorist act and ordered an indefinite curfew imposed on British-patrolled Basra to prevent any further tit-for-tat violence.

Several Sunni mosques have been attacked in Iraq since Wednesday's bombing of the Shiite Al-Askari shrine in the city of Samarra, north of Baghdad.

Immediately after the bombing, at least four Sunni mosques were targeted, three south of Baghdad in the town of Iskandiriyah and one in the capital.

Three more were hit on Thursday and the US military said a Shiite mosque in the town of Mahmudiyah, south of Baghdad, was also attacked.

But the imposition of curfews in both Samarra and Baghdad helped prevent any wider outbreak of sectarian violence.

On Friday, the curfew in Baghdad which was to be lifted Saturday was further extended till Sunday morning, state television reported, quoting government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh.

Gates flies in

Meanwhile US Defence Secretary Robert Gates flew into Baghdad to urge Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to make stronger efforts at reconciliation amid fears that another round of mosque bombings will further inflame sectarian violence.

"Frankly, we're disappointed with the progress so far, and hope that this most recent bombing by Al Qaeda won't further disrupt or delay the process," Gates told reporters as he flew to Baghdad for an unannounced visit.

He follows close on the heels of US Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte and Admiral William Fallon, the US commander in the Middle East, who also warned Mr Maliki that he needs to show progress in reconciling the bitterly divided country.

Mr Gates told reporters he had full confidence in General David Petraeus, the top US commander in Iraq, who is supposed to report in September on whether a surge in US combat forces has succeeded in bringing down the violence.

Senator Harry Reid, the Senate Majority Leader, this week accused Gen Petraeus of being overly optimistic about conditions in Iraq in an unusual attack on a US military leader.

"He has not pulled his punches at all," Mr Gates said of Gen Petraeus. The general has been realistic about the difficulties of securing Baghdad and the obstacles to reconciliation, he said.

"I have every confidence in General Petraeus and also in his ability and willingness to call it like he sees it. And I think that will be an honest appraisal," Mr Gates said in reference to the September report.

-Reuters/AFP

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Segundo F-16 a cair no Iraque em menos de um mês.

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Soultrain,

Vc tem informações sobre o histórico de acidentes dos F-16 da FAP?

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Jacques

[cabeça de martelo]

Até agora só caiu um único F-16 e foi num treino acrobático para uma comemoração qualquer. O piloto morreu a cair juntamente com o seu aparelho.

[Penguin]

Norwegian F-16s scramble to intercept Russian bombers

July 20, 2007 (by Lieven Dewitte) - Norway scrambled two of its F-16 fighter jets over the North Sea on Tuesday after Russian Tupolev Tu-95 "Bear" bombers got a little too close to their coast for comfort.


RNoAF F-16A block 10 #290 from 332 skv is intercepting a Russian Tu-22M2 'Backfire-B' in the early eighties. The aircraft crashed on September 15th, 1987. It wasn't clear whether the Russian flights were related to escalating diplomatic crisis between Russia and Great Britain, which also sent out jets of its own.

Hours after the Tu-95MS bombers turned back, two Russian Tu-160 "Blackjack" bombers were observed flying westwards, west of the Barents Sea, early this morning, again prompting the Norwegian military to dispatch F-16s. Those flights where in the region between Stavanger and Aberdeen, the heart of the British and Norwegian oil industry.

Although it has been since the end of the Cold War since there were such numerous sightings of Russian aircraft this far south, they didn't do anything wrong. Both times the Russian bombers stayed within international airspace the entire time. It would be pure speculation to guess why they did what they did.

Military officials downplayed the incident, calling the dispatch of Norwegian jets "routine" and the long flights a "natural part of Russian training".

Helge Blakkisrud, a Russian expert from the Norwegian Institute of International Affairs (NUPI), also played down theories the Russians are stoking tensions which have been running high with the British since Russia refused to extradite a key suspect in the poisoning of a Russian dissident living in London. The two countries have since resorted to expelling diplomats.

"It can be a signal that the Russians are rebuilding military might, but I don't think that's linked to the latest crisis," Blakkisrud said in an interview with Aftenposten.no. "As far as I've understood, this was part of a large training mission that's politically approved far in advance."

The British defense ministry confirmed that two of its Tornado jets were also dispatched because Russian bombers were in the area.

From Russian side, a military spokesman today accused British and Norwegian fighters of trying to intercept Russian bombers which were flying over neutral waters near European countries' coastlines.

"The crews of the Tupolev Tu-160 and Tu-95MS strategic bombers on planned flights over the neutral water area of the Atlantic and Arctic oceans reported that they witnessed Tornado and F-16 interceptors of the British and Norwegian air forces approaching them," Interfax news agency quoted Alexander Drobyshevsky as saying.

"British and Norwegian interceptors approached our strategic bombers four times," the Air Force spokesman said, noting those Russian planes will fly over the neutral water near the coastlines of Britain, Norway, Denmark and Iceland.

Two Tu-95MS strategic bombers and two Tu-160 armed with missiles, as well as two Il-78 refueling aircraft were on the flight, which took off on Friday, he said.

http://www.f-16.net/news_article2434.html