NOTÍCIAS DO RAFALE

[Degan]

¿Sabes que significa "al vorde"...?...

Pues significa CASI, que solo falta un paso...

[Sintra]

¿Sabes que significa "al vorde"...?...

Pues significa CASI, que solo falta un paso...

Eu não minto Degan, eu posso enganar-me como outra pessoa qualquer... Estamos entendidos?

[Degan]

Relajate Sintra...

NUNCA he dicho que mientas...y lo que dices tiene mucho sentido.

[Sintra]

Relajate Sintra...

NUNCA he dicho que mientas...y lo que dices tiene mucho sentido.

Ok

[AlbertoRJ]

France in Rafale update talks
By Peter La Franchi

France's DGA procurement agency is in talks with Dassault, MBDA and Thales on a package of future enhancements for the nation's Dassault Rafale fighters. To initially cover the period from 2009-11, the development roadmap includes a new-generation front sector optronics (FSO) suite, an active electronically scanned array radar, new missile warning systems and additional laser-guided weapons.

To offer longer-range detection capabilities, the new FSO system will replace an existing design that is undergoing an obsolescence upgrade as part of the Rafale F3 configuration to be implemented over the next two years. The F3 software standard will also clear the aircraft to carry MBDA's ASMP-A nuclear missile, AM39 Exocet anti-ship missile and Thales Land and Joint Systems' Reco NG reconnaissance pod.

The current FSO design made its combat debut with navy Rafale F2 fighters deployed over Afghanistan earlier this year (Flight International, 13-19 March), and was also used by air force Rafales during a NATO exercise in Norway late last year.

Thales currently produces two FSO units a month for the air force, with the suite providing air-to-air infrared search and track and air-to-surface identification and targeting support modes and also featuring an integrated laser rangefinder.

The replacement would extend sensor range and potentially incorporate a change from long-wave IR spectrum hardware to mid-wave technologies, says Marc Brousse, Thales's optronics programme manager for the Rafale.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/05/08/213750/france-in-rafale-update-talks.html

Nova geração do OSF com ainda mais alcance e novo sensor IR.

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[piratadabaixada]

Senhores,

Abaixo um boa correção que o Brigadeiro Danilo fez sobre uma afirmação minha, editei a afirmação pois se mantivesse o texto original ela ficaria distorcida:

Oi Heronim,

VC escreveu:

"A vida útil do airframe do Rafale era estimada inicialmente em 5000 horas, após testes foi certificada para 7000 horas"
Permita-me uma pequena consideração a respeito de vida útil:
Vida Útil, como o próprio nome indica, abrange todo o ciclo de vida da aeronave que pode ser:

a) células descartáveis, com revisões intermediárias (filosofia americana);
b) células totalmente recondicionadas e repostas para novo ciclo (filosofia europeia).

A célula do RAFALE (europeu/francês) a cada 7.000 horas "sofre" uma inspeção de manutenção chamada de Revisão Geral (Entretien Majeur) e o potencial da célula ganha mais 7.000 hs com, evidentemente, inspeções cíclicas intermediárias. Teoricamente, a celula terá uma vida util indeterminada e poderá voar quantos ciclos de 7.000 hs seu proprietário e fornecedores conseguirem.
Num novo projeto, os fabricantes são obrigados a fazerem inúmeros ensaios que levam um tempo considerável. Inicialmente, para o RAFALE, seu fabricante estimou um entre-ciclos de 5.000 hs que foi expandido para 7.000 após o término dos ensaios. Pelo que me lembro......

Abs.

Danilo

[Benke]

France seen sealing jets sale to Morocco-report

Tue May 22, 2007 12:02PM EDT
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PARIS, May 22 (Reuters) - The sale to Morocco of 14 French Rafale combat aircraft from Dassault Aviation (AVMD.PA: Quote, Profile, Research has been finalised on the French side but is still awaiting the approval of Morocco, a French weekly newspaper reported on Tuesday.
"Prepared during the (President Jacques) Chirac era, the dossier has been, as one says, 'finalised'," Le Canard Enchaine said. "It received technical and financial green lights and only lacks one signature, that of Morocco's king. French authorities have no reason to doubt the imminence of this royal signature."
Reuters got an advanced copy of the publication due for release on Wednesday.

French defence ministry officials could not be immediately reached for comment. Dassault Aviation declined to comment, repeating that the negotiations took place between the two governments.

((Writing by Dominique Vidalon; editing by Paul Bolding; Reuters Messaging

http://www.reuters.com/article/tnBas...56015320070522

mp.net

[Jacobs]

France seen sealing jets sale to Morocco-report

Tue May 22, 2007 12:02PM EDT
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PARIS, May 22 (Reuters) - The sale to Morocco of 14 French Rafale combat aircraft from Dassault Aviation (AVMD.PA: Quote, Profile, Research has been finalised on the French side but is still awaiting the approval of Morocco, a French weekly newspaper reported on Tuesday.
"Prepared during the (President Jacques) Chirac era, the dossier has been, as one says, 'finalised'," Le Canard Enchaine said. "It received technical and financial green lights and only lacks one signature, that of Morocco's king. French authorities have no reason to doubt the imminence of this royal signature."
Reuters got an advanced copy of the publication due for release on Wednesday.

French defence ministry officials could not be immediately reached for comment. Dassault Aviation declined to comment, repeating that the negotiations took place between the two governments.

((Writing by Dominique Vidalon; editing by Paul Bolding; Reuters Messaging

http://www.reuters.com/article/tnBas...56015320070522

mp.net

Será que agora vai?

[Sintra]

France seen sealing jets sale to Morocco-report

Tue May 22, 2007 12:02PM EDT
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PARIS, May 22 (Reuters) - The sale to Morocco of 14 French Rafale combat aircraft from Dassault Aviation (AVMD.PA: Quote, Profile, Research has been finalised on the French side but is still awaiting the approval of Morocco, a French weekly newspaper reported on Tuesday.
"Prepared during the (President Jacques) Chirac era, the dossier has been, as one says, 'finalised'," Le Canard Enchaine said. "It received technical and financial green lights and only lacks one signature, that of Morocco's king. French authorities have no reason to doubt the imminence of this royal signature."
Reuters got an advanced copy of the publication due for release on Wednesday.

French defence ministry officials could not be immediately reached for comment. Dassault Aviation declined to comment, repeating that the negotiations took place between the two governments.

((Writing by Dominique Vidalon; editing by Paul Bolding; Reuters Messaging

http://www.reuters.com/article/tnBas...56015320070522

mp.net

Será que agora vai?

Esperemos que sim.

[nestor]

France seen sealing jets sale to Morocco-report

Tue May 22, 2007 12:02PM EDT
var storyKeywords = "";
PARIS, May 22 (Reuters) - The sale to Morocco of 14 French Rafale combat aircraft from Dassault Aviation (AVMD.PA: Quote, Profile, Research has been finalised on the French side but is still awaiting the approval of Morocco, a French weekly newspaper reported on Tuesday.
"Prepared during the (President Jacques) Chirac era, the dossier has been, as one says, 'finalised'," Le Canard Enchaine said. "It received technical and financial green lights and only lacks one signature, that of Morocco's king. French authorities have no reason to doubt the imminence of this royal signature."
Reuters got an advanced copy of the publication due for release on Wednesday.

French defence ministry officials could not be immediately reached for comment. Dassault Aviation declined to comment, repeating that the negotiations took place between the two governments.

((Writing by Dominique Vidalon; editing by Paul Bolding; Reuters Messaging

http://www.reuters.com/article/tnBas...56015320070522

mp.net

Será que agora vai?

Esperemos que sim.

Pues yo espero que no

Saludos

[Einsamkeit]

Nestor, mas a questao é, que quanto mais armamentos para o Marrocos nao é melhor para a Espanha?

Pode vir mais F-100, Mais EF-2000

[nestor]

Nestor, mas a questao é, que quanto mais armamentos para o Marrocos nao é melhor para a Espanha?

Pode vir mais F-100, Mais EF-2000

Bueno, 14 Rafales no suponen mucha amenaza para España, pero 0 Rafales supone aun menos

Saludos.

[Einsamkeit]

Nestor, mas a questao é, que quanto mais armamentos para o Marrocos nao é melhor para a Espanha?

Pode vir mais F-100, Mais EF-2000

Bueno, 14 Rafales no suponen mucha amenaza para España, pero 0 Rafales supone aun menos

Saludos.

Pelo menos justifica as compras atuais, e possibilita ainda mais

[Sintra]

Nestor, mas a questao é, que quanto mais armamentos para o Marrocos nao é melhor para a Espanha?

Pode vir mais F-100, Mais EF-2000

Bueno, 14 Rafales no suponen mucha amenaza para España, pero 0 Rafales supone aun menos

Saludos.

Pelo menos justifica as compras atuais, e possibilita ainda mais

Exacto

E de qualquer forma prefiro que exista algum equilibrio militar no Norte de África, a Argélia está a comprar armas como se o seu orçamento fosse de primeiro mundo, o que não é nada bom, nem para os Argelinos nem para ninguém. Se os Marroquinos se mantiverem impávidos e serenos e não responderem a esta "mini corrida" armamentista Argelina ainda vamos ter confusão para aqueles lados, os tipos já se pegaram anteriormente.

Abraços

[Sintra]

Nestor, mas a questao é, que quanto mais armamentos para o Marrocos nao é melhor para a Espanha?

Pode vir mais F-100, Mais EF-2000

Bueno, 14 Rafales no suponen mucha amenaza para España, pero 0 Rafales supone aun menos

Saludos.

E já agora, aproveito para fazer uma pergunta. Desde sempre me pareceu que se existia um país do consórcio EUROFIGHTER que ia encomendar as opções após o final das entregas da "Tranche 3", ia ser a Espanha, isto pelo nº de aviões contratualizados e pelo nº de esquadrões planeados, que davam mesmo à justa, não existindo assim nenhuma reserva de "airframes".
Sabe-se alguma coisa daquelas 16 opções após a "tranche 3"?

Abraços