Royal Navy Será Reduzida à Metade

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Saiu no defesanet.com.br ..............não seria uma boa chance para compras de oportunidade????? Espero que a MB esteja atenta a isso.

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Saiu no defesanet.com.br ..............não seria uma boa chance para compras de oportunidade????? Espero que a MB esteja atenta a isso.

Caro Marcos,

Este tópico já estava aberto, e já era duplicado. A discussão sobre este assunto, está sendo tratada por este tópico: Nova aquisição a caminho!

Lá você vai achar as notícias originais, que foram repercutidas pelo Defesanet, diga-se de passagem foram unificadas e um pouco distorcidas.

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Skynews, 05.01.2007:

Navy to cut its fleet by half

By Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondent
Last Updated: 3:03am GMT 05/01/2007


Royal Navy commanders were in uproar yesterday after it was revealed that almost half of the Fleet's 44 warships are to be mothballed as part of a Ministry of Defence cost-cutting measure.




Senior officers have said the plans will turn Britain's once-proud Navy into nothing more than a coastal defence force.

The Government has admitted that 13 unnamed warships are in a state of reduced readiness, putting them around 18 months away from active service. Today The Daily Telegraph can name a further six destroyers and frigates that are being proposed for cuts.

A need to cut the defence budget by £250 million this year to meet spending requirements has forced ministers to look at drastic measures.

MoD sources have admitted it is possible that the Royal Navy will discontinue one of its major commitments around the world at a time when Sir Jonathon Band, the First Sea Lord, has said more ships are needed to protect the high seas against terrorism and piracy.

News of further cuts to what was once the world's most formidable fleet comes as critics say failings across the Services are becoming increasingly apparent.

More details are emerging of the near-squalor that soldiers are forced to tolerate in barracks when they return from six months of dangerous overseas operations.

Questions have also been raised about the poor pay for troops and equipment failures which continue to dog operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The six warships to be mothballed are the Type 22 frigates Cumberland, Chatham, Cornwall and Campbeltown and two Type 42 destroyers Southampton and Exeter.

It is likely that they will eventually be sold or scrapped. There are also fears in the Admiralty that two new aircraft carriers, promised in 1998, might never be built.

Meanwhile the French navy, which will be far superior to the Royal Navy after the cuts, will announce before the April presidential elections that a new carrier will be built.

Two of eight advanced air defence Type 45 destroyers on the Navy's order books will not be bought, defence sources said. The order is already six months behind schedule and £157 million over budget.

A senior officer, currently serving with the Fleet in Portsmouth, said: "What this means is that we are now no better than a coastal defence force or a fleet of dug-out canoes. The Dutch now have a better navy than us."

Defence sources said it would be unlikely that the Navy could now launch an armada of the kind that retook the Falkland Islands in 1982.

Steve Bush, editor of the monthly magazine Warship World, said the MoD was bankrupt following the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"After 10 years of Labour government, the Royal Navy is on its knees without immediate and proper funding. I cannot see how it can recover —especially if Mr Brown becomes the next prime minister," he said.

There are already reports that ships on operations are ignoring faults to weapons systems in order to save money but will spend cash if it is a health and safety issue.

The Navy is expected to lose one of its three carriers, Invincible, which has been laid up in Portsmouth. One of the three major ports is also under threat of closure. It is believed that the historic Navy headquarters of Portsmouth is most vulnerable.

Two unnamed mine counter-measure vessels and two Royal Fleet Auxiliary tankers, Brambleleaf and Oakleaf, are also under threat.

Adam Ingram, the defence minister, admitted in a Parliamentary answer last month that 13 ships were at sea with 18 in port at 48 hours notice to deploy. The decision to tie up another six frigates will mean the Navy has just 25 warships left. This would mean giving up a major commitment such as the anti-drugs and hurricane support role in the Caribbean.

To protect Britain from attack today, the country has the frigates Monmouth and Montrose available with the carrier Ark Royal about to re-enter service after a lengthy refit.

The MoD said yesterday that it had no plans to cut the destroyer and frigate fleet but it "routinely reviewed" defence capabilities "to ensure resources are directed where our front line Armed Forces need them most".

A spokesman said: "We are some way from any decisions and just because a proposal is looked at does not mean that it will be implemented"

A final decision on the cuts is expected next month.

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Royal Navy Fleet to be Cut in Half?

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Almost half the Royal Navy fleet of warships will be lost and officers' promotions frozen for five years in a cost-cutting measure. An official Navy document, 'Galaxy 36/06', passed to the Telegraph newspaper states that all promotions to the rank of Lieutenant Commander or above will be halted until 2012. The fleet will lose almost half its warships with 19 out of 44 laid up in port.

With billions being spent on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq the Ministry of Defence is desperate to make savings. If the warship cuts go ahead, 1,500 sailors will probably lose their jobs. It has also been proposed that the 2,900 sailors of the Royal Navy Reserve, which provides a backbone in many specialist areas, will be cut by as much as 20 per cent. There are going to be reductions too in the 1,000 sailors in the Full Time Reserve Service who are asked back to do specific jobs to fill gaps.

The leaked memo, from Vice-Admiral Adrian Johns, the Second Sea Lord, said: "In order to rebalance in favour of the front line we are focusing on officers of Lieutenant Commander and above. I anticipate a temporary reduction in promotion numbers primarily in the officer cadre for the period 2008 to 2010 and recovering to present levels in 2012."

A serving Lieutenant Commander, equivalent to an Army major, who is currently paid £45,000 a year, described the freeze as "an absolute outrage". "People who have worked extremely hard and given their careers to the Navy, have bled for the Navy are now being rewarded like this, he said. "It is also a real kick in the teeth for those commanders who will now probably never have the chance to captain a ship."
Some officers believe the promotion freeze is part of a plan to force them into early retirement. There are also fears that the promotion freeze will have a negative effect on recruiting bright young officers to a service suffering substantial manning problems. Details on the promotion freeze and RNR cuts are expected in March.

A Navy spokesman said the Service was working hard to be more efficient "so that we can focus more of our resources on the front line. As a result, we have warned our people that there may be a temporary reduction in a few promotion opportunities, particularly for senior officers in headquarters posts."

Original article by Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondant for http://www.telegraph.co.uk

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Controversy erupts over intended cuts in Royal Navy

Controversy erupted in Britain following reports in the London press that the Royal Navy will experience a drastic cut to its surface fleet and promotion for RN officers is to be frozen for five years as a result of cost cutting measures.


The Daily Telegraph revealed that according to an internal RN memo labeled Galaxy 36/06 all promotions to the rank of Lieutenant Commander or above will be halted until 2012. The temporary halt will be required to "rebalance in favor of the front line".

With billions being spent on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and on costly procurement programs, the Ministry of Defense is desperate to make savings and the RN has become the target for proposals to retire a further six frigates and destroyers “to bring budgets into line”.

If this goes ahead The Telegraph said the fleet will lose almost half its warships with 19 out of 44 laid up in port and 1,500 sailors will probably lose their jobs in a service that has already been reduced to 36,000 personnel in recent years.

The leaked memo, from Vice-Admiral Adrian Johns, the Second Sea Lord, said: "In order to rebalance in favor of the front line we are focusing on officers of Lieutenant Commander and above. I anticipate a temporary reduction in promotion numbers primarily in the officer cadre for the period 2008 to 2010 and recovering to present levels in 2012."

There are also fears that the promotion freeze will have a negative effect on recruiting bright young officers to a service suffering substantial manning problems. The details on the promotion freeze and RN Reserve cuts are expected in March.

But Lewis Page, a former Navy officer who wrote Lions, Donkeys and Dinosaurs, an acclaimed book about MoD overspending, said cuts were necessary for the 1,100 Lt Commanders in the Navy because a "staggering" 17 of the rank were based ashore for every one at sea.

"It is becoming increasingly difficult to find even vaguely relevant employment for them all," he said.

A Navy spokesman said the Service was working hard to be more efficient "so that we can focus more of our resources on the front line". "As a result, we have warned our people that there may be a temporary reduction in a few promotion opportunities, particularly for senior officers in headquarters posts."

The Tories accused the Government of "destroying" the Navy over the past decade and refusing to accept its responsibility to defend the nation by slashing the number of ships to pay for Iraq and Afghanistan.

Julian Lewis, the Tory defence spokesman, said: "You can`t mortgage the future of the Armed Forces by cutting them to pieces in order to pay for a current campaign".

However the Ministry of Defence said no decisions had been made on the future of Royal Navy resources. The six warships allegedly to be mothballed include the Type 22 frigates Cumberland, Chatham, Cornwall and Campbeltown and two Type 42 destroyers Southampton and Exeter.

Armed Forces Minister Adam Ingram last month revealed that 13 of the Royal Navy`s 44 main vessels were already in a state of reduced readiness - known as mothballing - to save cash. A decision to mothball another eight ships would mean that almost half the Fleet - 21 of 44 warships - would not be available. Mothballing plans are intended to save an estimated £ 250 million in defence budget cuts.

It also reported that the Navy was expected to lose one of its three carriers, Invincible, and that one of three major ports was under threat of closure - with Portsmouth the most vulnerable.

However, a spokesman for the MoD insisted: "We currently have no plans to cut ship numbers. We routinely review whether resources are allocated where our frontline forces need them most. No decisions have been taken in this case."

He pointed out that the MoD was building new destroyers, attack submarines, and support ships for the Royal Navy and planned to sign the production contract this year for two new aircraft carriers.

The spokesman branded reports that Portsmouth will close as "complete speculation" and added: "We are reviewing our bases, and have undertaken to make savings, but no decisions have been taken."

[kiev]

Muito Triste esta notícia.

[Sniper]

Muito Triste esta notícia.

Triste? Você é doido?!

As marinhas 3ºmundistas agradecem ao senhor Tony Blair por encher o mercado com equipamentos semi-novos e baratos!

Abraço!

[PRick]

Muito Triste esta notícia.

Triste? Você é doido?!

As marinhas 3ºmundistas agradecem ao senhor Tony Blair por encher o mercado com equipamentos semi-novos e baratos!

Abraço!

Na próxima eleição vou votar em UK, só para apoiar o Sr. Blair. Este é o melhor amigo da MB.

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Mas com essa alegria toda, vcs já compraram a Royal Navy toda?

Olhem que o Chile chega lá, bota o $$$$ em cima da mesa e leva tudo

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Mas com essa alegria toda, vcs já compraram a Royal Navy toda?

Olhem que o Chile chega lá, bota o $$$$ em cima da mesa e leva tudo

A os Chilenos !

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Nem tanto P-44...

4 Type-22 B3
2 Type-42 B3
Sir Galahad
1 Albion

Só isso! O resto os Chilenos e os Tugas podem levar...

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Pode ser que vendam o "Bulwark" á tuga-lândia



Lógico que os 3 Invencible vão para o Chile

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Lógico que os 3 Invencible vão para o Chile

Não me diga que MP estava de olho em um Invencible também?!?!

A se os Chilenos ficam sabendo... HAUHAHA!

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Muito Triste esta notícia.

Todas las marinas Europeas se estan reduciendo drasticamente.

Eso si, un solo nuevo Type 45 casi sera mas poderoso que toda la actual flota junta

Saludos

[Sniper]

Muito Triste esta notícia.

Todas las marinas Europeas se estan reduciendo drasticamente.

Nem todas... nem todas...

Muito pelo contrario ! Algumas estão a aumentar exponencialmente, não só em número, mas principalmente em capacida ofensiva !

Abraços!

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No tópico da Marinha Francesa, o comodoro Luis F. Silva, do alto das suas longas barbas brancas, escreveu que estes navios não serviriam á MP:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandown_class_minehunter

Gostava de saber mais o "porquê"