LPD 100% Mexicano, um exemplo a ser seguido

[Alitson]

Mas as Niteroi não são "primas" das Type-21 inglesas, as Amazon?

O desenho das Niteroi é da Vosper, e o das Amazon Tipo 21 é da Yarrow. Embora sejam contemporâneas e de desenho algo semelhante, considero os dois projectos diferentes.

internamente... e até externamente... no resto...

A eletronica dos dois navios é completamente diferente.

Só o visual que é parecido.

os paquistaneses naum modernizaram suas Type 21 comprardas daRN?????????

[Bolovo]

Mas as Niteroi não são "primas" das Type-21 inglesas, as Amazon?

O desenho das Niteroi é da Vosper, e o das Amazon Tipo 21 é da Yarrow. Embora sejam contemporâneas e de desenho algo semelhante, considero os dois projectos diferentes.

internamente... e até externamente... no resto...

A eletronica dos dois navios é completamente diferente.

Só o visual que é parecido.

os paquistaneses naum modernizaram suas Type 21 comprardas daRN?????????

Sim, e depende de navio pra navio.

As Type 21 paquistanesas:

HMS Ambuscade decommissioned and was sold to Pakistan on 28 July 1993, being renamed Tariq. Exocet was not transferred to Pakistan and Tariq had her obsolete Sea Cat launcher removed. A quadruple Harpoon missile launcher was fitted in place of the Exocet launchers and a Phalanx CIWS was fitted in place of the Sea Cat launcher. SRBOC chaff launchers and 20 mm and 30 mm guns were fitted.

HMS Amazon decommissioned and was sold to Pakistan on 30 September 1993, being renamed Babur. Exocet was not transferred to Pakistan and Babur had her obsolete Sea Cat launcher removed. A Chinese LY 60N missile launcher was fitted in place of the Exocet launchers. Signaal DA08 air search radar replaced the Type 992 and SRBOC chaff launchers and 20mm and 30mm guns were fitted.

HMS Active decommssioned and was sold to Pakistan on 23 September 1994, being renamed Shah Jahan. Exocet was not transferred to Pakistan and Shah Jahan had her obsolete Sea Cat launcher removed. A Chinese LY 60N missile launcher was fitted in place of the Exocet launchers. Signaal DA08 air search radar replaced the Type 992 and SRBOC chaff launchers and 20 mm and 30 mm guns were fitted.

HMS Arrow decommissioned and was transferred to Pakistan on 1 March 1994, being renamed Kaibar. Exocet was not transferred to Pakistan and Kaibar had her obsolete Sea Cat missile launcher removed. A quadruple Harpoon missile launcher was fitted in place of the Exocet launchers and a Phalanx CIWS was fitted in place of the Sea Cat launcher. SRBOC chaff launchers and 20mm and 30mm guns were fitted.

HMS Alacrity was decommissioned and transferred to Pakistan on 1 March 1994, being renamed Badr. Exocet was not transferred to Pakistan and Badr had her obsolete Sea Cat launcher removed. A Chinese LY 60N missile launcher was fitted in place of the Exocet launchers. Signaal DA08 air search radar replaced the Type 992 and SRBOC chaff launchers and 20 mm and 30 mm guns were fitted.

HMS Avenger decommissioned and was sold to Pakistan on 23 September 1994, being renamed Tippu Sultan. Exocet was not transferred to Pakistan and Tippu Sultan had her obsolete Sea Cat launcher removed. A quadruple Harpoon missile launcher was fitted in place of the Exocet launchers and a Phalanx CIWS was fitted in place of the Sea Cat launcher. SRBOC chaff launchers and 20 mm and 30 mm guns were fitted.

[Alitson]

Mas as Niteroi não são "primas" das Type-21 inglesas, as Amazon?

O desenho das Niteroi é da Vosper, e o das Amazon Tipo 21 é da Yarrow. Embora sejam contemporâneas e de desenho algo semelhante, considero os dois projectos diferentes.

internamente... e até externamente... no resto...

A eletronica dos dois navios é completamente diferente.

Só o visual que é parecido.

os paquistaneses naum modernizaram suas Type 21 comprardas daRN?????????

Sim, e depende de navio pra navio.

As Type 21 paquistanesas:

HMS Ambuscade decommissioned and was sold to Pakistan on 28 July 1993, being renamed Tariq. Exocet was not transferred to Pakistan and Tariq had her obsolete Sea Cat launcher removed. A quadruple Harpoon missile launcher was fitted in place of the Exocet launchers and a Phalanx CIWS was fitted in place of the Sea Cat launcher. SRBOC chaff launchers and 20 mm and 30 mm guns were fitted.

HMS Amazon decommissioned and was sold to Pakistan on 30 September 1993, being renamed Babur. Exocet was not transferred to Pakistan and Babur had her obsolete Sea Cat launcher removed. A Chinese LY 60N missile launcher was fitted in place of the Exocet launchers. Signaal DA08 air search radar replaced the Type 992 and SRBOC chaff launchers and 20mm and 30mm guns were fitted.

HMS Active decommssioned and was sold to Pakistan on 23 September 1994, being renamed Shah Jahan. Exocet was not transferred to Pakistan and Shah Jahan had her obsolete Sea Cat launcher removed. A Chinese LY 60N missile launcher was fitted in place of the Exocet launchers. Signaal DA08 air search radar replaced the Type 992 and SRBOC chaff launchers and 20 mm and 30 mm guns were fitted.

HMS Arrow decommissioned and was transferred to Pakistan on 1 March 1994, being renamed Kaibar. Exocet was not transferred to Pakistan and Kaibar had her obsolete Sea Cat missile launcher removed. A quadruple Harpoon missile launcher was fitted in place of the Exocet launchers and a Phalanx CIWS was fitted in place of the Sea Cat launcher. SRBOC chaff launchers and 20mm and 30mm guns were fitted.

HMS Alacrity was decommissioned and transferred to Pakistan on 1 March 1994, being renamed Badr. Exocet was not transferred to Pakistan and Badr had her obsolete Sea Cat launcher removed. A Chinese LY 60N missile launcher was fitted in place of the Exocet launchers. Signaal DA08 air search radar replaced the Type 992 and SRBOC chaff launchers and 20 mm and 30 mm guns were fitted.

HMS Avenger decommissioned and was sold to Pakistan on 23 September 1994, being renamed Tippu Sultan. Exocet was not transferred to Pakistan and Tippu Sultan had her obsolete Sea Cat launcher removed. A quadruple Harpoon missile launcher was fitted in place of the Exocet launchers and a Phalanx CIWS was fitted in place of the Sea Cat launcher. SRBOC chaff launchers and 20 mm and 30 mm guns were fitted.

valeu... muito obrigado pelas informações... mas que virou uma salada "chilena", isso virou...

[Bolovo]

valeu... muito obrigado pelas informações... mas que virou uma salada "chilena", isso virou...

Nem os navios da mesma classe tem equipamentos padronizados, então imagina o resto da Marinha...

Nisso a Niteroi MODFRAG dá de mil a zero.

[Alitson]

valeu... muito obrigado pelas informações... mas que virou uma salada "chilena", isso virou...

Nem os navios da mesma classe tem equipamentos padronizados, então imagina o resto da Marinha...

Nisso a Niteroi MODFRAG dá de mil a zero.

menos na baianada que fizeram no sonar... de profundidade variavel...

[BrasileiroBR]

essa foto ele quis dar apenas como exemplo... do que possivelmente irá se parecer o projeto BULOM que eles ainda estão desenvolvendo...




Velocidad máxima: 17+ nudos
Transporte: 111 elementos
Capacidad de carga: 2,000 Ton de carga diversa.
Hasta 18 vehículos anfibios o
vehículos tipo Comando.
800 Ton de combustible diesel.
Dos cubiertas de anaveaje

mas ainda nao saiu do papel............

[P44]

Luís:

Mas as Niteroi não são "primas" das Type-21 inglesas, as Amazon?

Muito parecidas com as que o Paquistão opera, ou operava até há pouco tempo na sua marinha?

correção: as do Paquistão SÃO AS AMAZON (ex-Britânicas)

EDITADO: Mas se queres dizer que as NITEROI são primas das AMAZON Paquiestanesas então tá certo

[luis F. Silva]

Muito parecidas com as que o Paquistão opera, ou operava até há pouco tempo na sua marinha?

às vezes já deixo passar, se não o Rui julga que é perseguição.

[Patton]

"Mexico, um examplo a ser seguido" - especialmente em termos de guerra naval, olha a marinha deles!



Sera' que eu sou duro de mais com os mexicanos?

[P44]

"Mexico, um examplo a ser seguido" - especialmente em termos de guerra naval, olha a marinha deles!



Sera' que eu sou duro de mais com os mexicanos?

Mauzinho.... ~


Mas não te preocupes, com a quantidade de Mexicanos que está a saltar a fronteira vcs qualquer dia são anexados pelo MÉxico e a USN passa a ser a Armada de México :mrgreen:

[P44]

Muito parecidas com as que o Paquistão opera, ou operava até há pouco tempo na sua marinha?

às vezes já deixo passar, se não o Rui julga que é perseguição.

Aqui uma Amazon do Paquistão....



Acho que as Amazon que eram designadas "fragatas" pela RN passaram a se classificadas como "Destroyers" pelos que pa-ra-aqui-estão...

[Rui Elias Maltez]

Mas onde está o erro?

[P44]

Mas onde está o erro?

tu escreveste que AS DO PAQUISTãO eram muito parecidas com as Inglesas...

Isso dá a entender (pelo menos a mim) que é uma classe Á parte das inglesas
Quando o facto é que as do Paquistão, sãos as inglesas...compradas em 2ª Mão á RN....ou seja...estamos a falar dos MESMOS NAVIOS...e não de uma classe paquistanesa e de outra inglesa

[Rui Elias Maltez]

Mas eu estava-me a refereir às Niteroi da MB, que eram inglesas de origem, contruidas para o Brasil, e muito parecidas com as que o Paquistão opera, ou operou até há pouco tempo

Só se me expressei mal.

[P44]

Mas eu estava-me a refereir às Niteroi da MB, que eram inglesas de origem, contruidas para o Brasil, e muito parecidas com as que o Paquistão opera, ou operou até há pouco tempo

Só se me expressei mal.

enche 10!!!


(já editei o post acima...o Idoso 2º do Feijó entendeu o mm que eu )

expressaste-te mal