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[quote="talharim"]Alguém sabes a capacidade desses AWACS chineses ?
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China Now Test-Flying Homemade AWACS
Radar Planes Intended For Use in Taiwan Strait
By Edward Cody
Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, November 13, 2004; Page A19
BEIJING, Nov. 12 -- The Chinese military, undeterred by a U.S. veto that blocked the purchase of Israeli planes, has developed its own radar surveillance aircraft and is test-flying the first models for early deployment in the Taiwan Strait, according to military specialists.
The Chinese airborne warning and control system, or AWACS, uses domestically produced advanced radar mounted on a Russian-made Il-76 transport aircraft. Analysts said the AWACS marks an important step in the government's campaign to develop the modern military necessary to back up its threat to reunite Taiwan with the mainland by force if necessary.
Electronic weaponry -- in this case, equipment to monitor the skies and control warplanes over a wide battlefield -- has been a major focus of extensive military improvements in recent years. In particular, AWACS has long been seen by the military as an indispensable tool for air superiority over the 100-mile strait separating Taiwan from the mainland.
"You've got to have those AWACS up there or you're not going anywhere," said a foreign military attache in Beijing describing China's need for such a system in the event of conflict with Taiwan.
Chinese military technicians have been struggling to acquire AWACS-type equipment since the United States pressured Israel in 2000 to back out of a $1 billion agreement to sell China four of its Phalcon phased-array radar systems. The systems also would have used Il-76 aircraft as a platform.
The main U.S. concern in blocking the sale was that China would gain a military advantage over Taiwan. Moreover, under the 1979 Taiwan Relations Act, the U.S. government has pledged to help Taiwan defend itself against any Chinese attack, meaning U.S. forces could become involved should fighting erupt.
For the same reasons, People's Liberation Army (PLA) air force leaders were determined to acquire such a plane. "After the 2000 Israeli fiasco, the PLA made it a matter of high pride to prove to the Americans they would not be denied AWACS," said Richard D. Fisher Jr., a U.S.-based specialist on the Chinese military.
At first, China turned to Russia, its traditional source of military equipment. The Beijing government concluded a deal to buy four Beriev A-50 Mainstay radar planes, which are roughly the Russian equivalent of the U.S. Air Force's E-3 Sentry AWACS. The purchase was believed to be the first phase of an agreement for up to eight of the Russian aircraft.
At the same time, however, Chinese scientists were at work on their own radar equipment. It is not known whether any of the Russian craft were ever delivered, which would have provided a look at the technology, or whether the technicians obtained help from Israeli or Russian counterparts. In any case, the Chinese AWACS that has begun test flights bears a strong resemblance to the A-50, which also uses the Il-76.
The AWACS could be operational within one or two years assuming the tests are successful, the specialists said. It was not known how many are planned for production, but Fisher noted eight would allow for a 24-hour patrol at both ends of the Taiwan Strait.
The Defense Ministry, which treats most military subjects as secret, did not reply to a request for information on the AWACS project.
Whatever the ultimate production schedule, AWACS development fits into a steady growth in the amount and sophistication of armaments on both sides of the strait, making a confrontation between China and Taiwan potentially one of the world's most dangerous.
The leadership has steadily increased military budgets in recent years and sought to reform the manpower-heavy but technology-short PLA as swiftly as possible. According to U.S. and Taiwanese officials, the government has deployed nearly 600 short-range ballistic missiles in southern China aimed at targets in Taiwan. The number grows by about 75 a year, they say.
Taiwan's president, Chen Shui-bian, who began a second four-year term in May, has insisted the 13,500-square mile territory is independent and should stay that way. Soon after taking office in May, his government decided on an $18.2 billion arms purchase from the United States, including 12 P-3C Orion submarine-hunting planes, eight diesel-electric submarines and six PAC-3 batteries equipped with more than 350 Patriot anti-missile missiles.
But the opposition Nationalist and People First parties, which have a majority in the legislature, declined this week to approve Chen's budget for the purchase, arguing it was too expensive and in some ways inappropriate for Taiwan's needs. The issue is unlikely to be resolved until after the next legislative elections, scheduled for Dec. 11.
In the meantime, both sides have continued individual purchases that notch up the technology level of their militaries by matching threat for threat.
China, for instance, in 2002 bought from Israel a number of Harpy anti-radar drones, which can loiter over enemy territory and drop munitions on radars turned on to guide air defenses. Meanwhile, Taiwan has obtained authorization from the Bush administration to buy high-speed anti-radiation missiles, which also can target air defenses by homing in on radar emissions, Chin Hui-chu, a Taiwanese legislator on the National Defense committee, recently told the Taiwan News.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dy ... ge=printer
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Finalmente:
China Now Test-Flying Homemade AWACS
Radar Planes Intended For Use in Taiwan Strait
By Edward Cody
Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, November 13, 2004; Page A19
BEIJING, Nov. 12 -- The Chinese military, undeterred by a U.S. veto that blocked the purchase of Israeli planes, has developed its own radar surveillance aircraft and is test-flying the first models for early deployment in the Taiwan Strait, according to military specialists.
The Chinese airborne warning and control system, or AWACS, uses domestically produced advanced radar mounted on a Russian-made Il-76 transport aircraft. Analysts said the AWACS marks an important step in the government's campaign to develop the modern military necessary to back up its threat to reunite Taiwan with the mainland by force if necessary.
Electronic weaponry -- in this case, equipment to monitor the skies and control warplanes over a wide battlefield -- has been a major focus of extensive military improvements in recent years. In particular, AWACS has long been seen by the military as an indispensable tool for air superiority over the 100-mile strait separating Taiwan from the mainland.
"You've got to have those AWACS up there or you're not going anywhere," said a foreign military attache in Beijing describing China's need for such a system in the event of conflict with Taiwan.
Chinese military technicians have been struggling to acquire AWACS-type equipment since the United States pressured Israel in 2000 to back out of a $1 billion agreement to sell China four of its Phalcon phased-array radar systems. The systems also would have used Il-76 aircraft as a platform.
The main U.S. concern in blocking the sale was that China would gain a military advantage over Taiwan. Moreover, under the 1979 Taiwan Relations Act, the U.S. government has pledged to help Taiwan defend itself against any Chinese attack, meaning U.S. forces could become involved should fighting erupt.
For the same reasons, People's Liberation Army (PLA) air force leaders were determined to acquire such a plane. "After the 2000 Israeli fiasco, the PLA made it a matter of high pride to prove to the Americans they would not be denied AWACS," said Richard D. Fisher Jr., a U.S.-based specialist on the Chinese military.
At first, China turned to Russia, its traditional source of military equipment. The Beijing government concluded a deal to buy four Beriev A-50 Mainstay radar planes, which are roughly the Russian equivalent of the U.S. Air Force's E-3 Sentry AWACS. The purchase was believed to be the first phase of an agreement for up to eight of the Russian aircraft.
At the same time, however, Chinese scientists were at work on their own radar equipment. It is not known whether any of the Russian craft were ever delivered, which would have provided a look at the technology, or whether the technicians obtained help from Israeli or Russian counterparts. In any case, the Chinese AWACS that has begun test flights bears a strong resemblance to the A-50, which also uses the Il-76.
The AWACS could be operational within one or two years assuming the tests are successful, the specialists said. It was not known how many are planned for production, but Fisher noted eight would allow for a 24-hour patrol at both ends of the Taiwan Strait.
The Defense Ministry, which treats most military subjects as secret, did not reply to a request for information on the AWACS project.
Whatever the ultimate production schedule, AWACS development fits into a steady growth in the amount and sophistication of armaments on both sides of the strait, making a confrontation between China and Taiwan potentially one of the world's most dangerous.
The leadership has steadily increased military budgets in recent years and sought to reform the manpower-heavy but technology-short PLA as swiftly as possible. According to U.S. and Taiwanese officials, the government has deployed nearly 600 short-range ballistic missiles in southern China aimed at targets in Taiwan. The number grows by about 75 a year, they say.
Taiwan's president, Chen Shui-bian, who began a second four-year term in May, has insisted the 13,500-square mile territory is independent and should stay that way. Soon after taking office in May, his government decided on an $18.2 billion arms purchase from the United States, including 12 P-3C Orion submarine-hunting planes, eight diesel-electric submarines and six PAC-3 batteries equipped with more than 350 Patriot anti-missile missiles.
But the opposition Nationalist and People First parties, which have a majority in the legislature, declined this week to approve Chen's budget for the purchase, arguing it was too expensive and in some ways inappropriate for Taiwan's needs. The issue is unlikely to be resolved until after the next legislative elections, scheduled for Dec. 11.
In the meantime, both sides have continued individual purchases that notch up the technology level of their militaries by matching threat for threat.
China, for instance, in 2002 bought from Israel a number of Harpy anti-radar drones, which can loiter over enemy territory and drop munitions on radars turned on to guide air defenses. Meanwhile, Taiwan has obtained authorization from the Bush administration to buy high-speed anti-radiation missiles, which also can target air defenses by homing in on radar emissions, Chin Hui-chu, a Taiwanese legislator on the National Defense committee, recently told the Taiwan News.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dy ... ge=printer
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China has at least 2 indigenous AWACS programs. The first AWACS program has a phased array radar system mounted on a IL-76 and looks very similar to the Phalcon.
The second AWACS program has a phased array radar system mounted on a Y-8 and looks very similar to the Erieye. This is supposed to be a less expensive system which can be acquired in larger numbers.
China could eventually deploy large numbers of indigenous AWACS aircraft. This is much better than having only a small number of expensive foreign AWACS aircraft because if you lose any of these foreign AWACS to enemy fire or technical problems then your AWACS coverage is screwed.
(JDW article kindly provided by Penlung)
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Date Posted: 16-Apr-2004
JANE'S DEFENCE WEEKLY - APRIL 21, 2004
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New 'Mainstay' AEW&C aircraft flying in China
Robert Hewson Editor Jane's Air-Launched Weapons
London
Additional reporting Martin Streetly Editor Jane's Electronic Mission Aircraft
London
Clear evidence has emerged that a significant Chinese airborne early-warning and control (AEW&C) development programme is now under way. AEW&C platforms, based on the Ilyushin Il-76, are now flying with the China Flight Test Establishment (CFTE).
Several photographs of these previously unknown aircraft have been released via Chinese sources in the same 'semi-official' way that the first images of the Chengdu J-10 fighter aircraft and other secretive Chinese defence projects have been leaked to outside observers. The images show aircraft carrying the badge of the CFTE, operating from Nanjing. No official information is available as to the status of the programme (or programmes) and observers are surprised at the level of advanced development that appears to have been reached.
Russia has already developed and deployed an Il-76-based AEW&C platform as the Ilyushin/Beriev A-50 and A-50M 'Mainstay'. At the end of the 1990s, China attempted to acquire a similar capability from Israel Aircraft Industries, as the A-50I, using Russian-supplied airframes mated with the Elta Phalcon phased-array radar system in a fixed (non-rotating) radome. A development aircraft was flown in Israel but the deal was halted in 2000 under intense US political pressure. Israel has been adamant that no AEW&C technology was transferred, although the bare A-50I airframe was handed over in 2002 to the Chinese authorities.
It should be noted that at least one of the aircraft seen flying in China has several key design features of the A-50I that are not found on Russia's 'Mainstays'. These include two ventral fins under the rear fuselage and the absence of the A-50's prominent fin-root intake.
Two different Chinese AEW&C configurations have been observed. It is not clear if both are flying simultaneously. There may have been a staged testing effort to prove the final radome configuration or there may be two parallel programmes, involving at least a pair of aircraft.
One set of photographs shows an aircraft with its circular dorsal radome supported by a large tri-cornered mast. This arrangement may indicate the presence of a fixed phased-array radar, using three antennas in a triangular arrangement to provide 360? coverage. An equivalent antenna layout was part of the original A-50I design. The second AEW&C configuration sees the radome sitting on two angled masts, similar to those of the existing A-50 design but with two horizontal bracing struts between the vertical supports. The radome on this aircraft appears to be deeper than that of a Russian A-50 - another pointer to the possible use of phased-array antennas in place of a rotating pulse-Doppler radar. Radar development for this programme may be the responsibility of the Nanjing Electronic Technology Research Institute (also known as the No 14 Institute), although there is a strong possibility of outside assistance, perhaps from Russia.
The origin of China's AEW&C aircraft remains unclear, as does their number. JDW reported that China was seeking to acquire Il-76s from Uzbekistan in 1997, although Russia is unlikely to have permitted this. By 2003 China was understood to be negotiating directly with Russia for the supply of a new A-50 variant, the A-50Eh (Ehksport, export). This programme, known as Project No 5, is thought to cover the lease of two test and evaluation A-50 aircraft to be followed by the acquisition of three to six A-50Ehs. The programme is reportedly due for completion by 2005 with each aircraft costing $180 million-$200 million. According to JDW sources, the A-50Eh radar is able to detect a cruise missile-sized target in ground/sea clutter at ranges of up to 463km.
Taiwanese sources allege that a secret A-50Eh deal was concluded with Russia last year. Taiwanese press reports also state that the A-50s have been exercising with People's Liberation Army Air Force Su-27 (J-11) and Su-30MKK aircraft. The sudden appearance of Chinese A-50s in the Nanjing Military Region, so near the Taiwan Strait, has caused consternation in Taiwan and represents a major shift in China's ability to conduct integrated offensive air operations.
http://www.centurychina.com/plaboard/ar ... 3382.shtml
The second AWACS program has a phased array radar system mounted on a Y-8 and looks very similar to the Erieye. This is supposed to be a less expensive system which can be acquired in larger numbers.
China could eventually deploy large numbers of indigenous AWACS aircraft. This is much better than having only a small number of expensive foreign AWACS aircraft because if you lose any of these foreign AWACS to enemy fire or technical problems then your AWACS coverage is screwed.
(JDW article kindly provided by Penlung)
================================================
Date Posted: 16-Apr-2004
JANE'S DEFENCE WEEKLY - APRIL 21, 2004
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New 'Mainstay' AEW&C aircraft flying in China
Robert Hewson Editor Jane's Air-Launched Weapons
London
Additional reporting Martin Streetly Editor Jane's Electronic Mission Aircraft
London
Clear evidence has emerged that a significant Chinese airborne early-warning and control (AEW&C) development programme is now under way. AEW&C platforms, based on the Ilyushin Il-76, are now flying with the China Flight Test Establishment (CFTE).
Several photographs of these previously unknown aircraft have been released via Chinese sources in the same 'semi-official' way that the first images of the Chengdu J-10 fighter aircraft and other secretive Chinese defence projects have been leaked to outside observers. The images show aircraft carrying the badge of the CFTE, operating from Nanjing. No official information is available as to the status of the programme (or programmes) and observers are surprised at the level of advanced development that appears to have been reached.
Russia has already developed and deployed an Il-76-based AEW&C platform as the Ilyushin/Beriev A-50 and A-50M 'Mainstay'. At the end of the 1990s, China attempted to acquire a similar capability from Israel Aircraft Industries, as the A-50I, using Russian-supplied airframes mated with the Elta Phalcon phased-array radar system in a fixed (non-rotating) radome. A development aircraft was flown in Israel but the deal was halted in 2000 under intense US political pressure. Israel has been adamant that no AEW&C technology was transferred, although the bare A-50I airframe was handed over in 2002 to the Chinese authorities.
It should be noted that at least one of the aircraft seen flying in China has several key design features of the A-50I that are not found on Russia's 'Mainstays'. These include two ventral fins under the rear fuselage and the absence of the A-50's prominent fin-root intake.
Two different Chinese AEW&C configurations have been observed. It is not clear if both are flying simultaneously. There may have been a staged testing effort to prove the final radome configuration or there may be two parallel programmes, involving at least a pair of aircraft.
One set of photographs shows an aircraft with its circular dorsal radome supported by a large tri-cornered mast. This arrangement may indicate the presence of a fixed phased-array radar, using three antennas in a triangular arrangement to provide 360? coverage. An equivalent antenna layout was part of the original A-50I design. The second AEW&C configuration sees the radome sitting on two angled masts, similar to those of the existing A-50 design but with two horizontal bracing struts between the vertical supports. The radome on this aircraft appears to be deeper than that of a Russian A-50 - another pointer to the possible use of phased-array antennas in place of a rotating pulse-Doppler radar. Radar development for this programme may be the responsibility of the Nanjing Electronic Technology Research Institute (also known as the No 14 Institute), although there is a strong possibility of outside assistance, perhaps from Russia.
The origin of China's AEW&C aircraft remains unclear, as does their number. JDW reported that China was seeking to acquire Il-76s from Uzbekistan in 1997, although Russia is unlikely to have permitted this. By 2003 China was understood to be negotiating directly with Russia for the supply of a new A-50 variant, the A-50Eh (Ehksport, export). This programme, known as Project No 5, is thought to cover the lease of two test and evaluation A-50 aircraft to be followed by the acquisition of three to six A-50Ehs. The programme is reportedly due for completion by 2005 with each aircraft costing $180 million-$200 million. According to JDW sources, the A-50Eh radar is able to detect a cruise missile-sized target in ground/sea clutter at ranges of up to 463km.
Taiwanese sources allege that a secret A-50Eh deal was concluded with Russia last year. Taiwanese press reports also state that the A-50s have been exercising with People's Liberation Army Air Force Su-27 (J-11) and Su-30MKK aircraft. The sudden appearance of Chinese A-50s in the Nanjing Military Region, so near the Taiwan Strait, has caused consternation in Taiwan and represents a major shift in China's ability to conduct integrated offensive air operations.
http://www.centurychina.com/plaboard/ar ... 3382.shtml
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"The programme is reportedly due for completion by 2005 with each aircraft costing $180 million-$200 million. According to JDW sources, the A-50Eh radar is able to detect a cruise missile-sized target in ground/sea clutter at ranges of up to 463km".
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The controversy over A-50I AEWCS finally ended on July 12, 2000 as the Israeli government terminated the $1 billion contract amid the strong protest from the United States, -- a significant setback to China's effort to obtain a state-of-the-art airborne C3I center. As the result, to lease or purcharse Russian made A-50E/U AWACS appears to be the only option at this moment since the indigenous system is still a few years from entering the service*. There have been reports that the negotiation is currently under way which could result in the sale of 5 A-50Es.
* The latest news suggested that at least one A-50 AEWCS has been evaluated by PLAAF at CFTE since summer 2002. This could be either an A-50E/U acquired from Russia or an A-50I delivered from Israel without the Phalcan phased array radar system (for flight crew training).
http://www.china-military.org/units/acf ... /awacs.htm
* The latest news suggested that at least one A-50 AEWCS has been evaluated by PLAAF at CFTE since summer 2002. This could be either an A-50E/U acquired from Russia or an A-50I delivered from Israel without the Phalcan phased array radar system (for flight crew training).
http://www.china-military.org/units/acf ... /awacs.htm
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model of a new Chinese AWACS aircraft is revealed here. At least one A-50 type AWACS prototype was spotted under test in Nanjing carrying a CFTE emblem (serial # 762) in 2003. This could be an Il-76 fitted with an indigenous AWACS system (KJ-2000? developed by Nanjing Electronic Technology Research Insitute/14 Institute). The system is presumably similar, but slightly inferior to the Israeli Phalcon system onboard A-50I with a fixed (?) rotodome housing three phased array antennas in a triangular configuration. As the result a 360° radar coverage can be achieved. A large EW antenna is located inside the radome projecting forward on top of the vertial tailfin too. Two large angled ventral fins are attached underneath the tail to compensate the effort of rotodome on aircraft handling. An A-50 style IFR probe indicates its operations can be further extended with the tanker support.
http://www.china-defense.com/forum/show ... 194&page=2
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The yankees are gonna be fucked out...
And the Israel folks are helping the chinese to do it...LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Perhaps they really won't invade Amazon...
Maybe WE help the chinese to invade Florida...
Life is so beautiful...
The yankees are gonna be fucked out...
And the Israel folks are helping the chinese to do it...LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Perhaps they really won't invade Amazon...
Maybe WE help the chinese to invade Florida...
Life is so beautiful...
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Não consegui achar dados técnicos deste radar. Nem no Fórum China Defense. Ao tentar acessar alguns sites indicados nos posts aparecia uma mensagem dizendo que eu não tinha permissão para acesso. Antes que alguém batesse em minha porta me dei por satisfeito e cai no cerrado.
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Obrigado pelas informações faterra !
Ficam as dúvidas das capacidades de processamento desses radares.Como por exemplo quantos Flankers cada AWACS pode vetorar,capacidades de Datalink...............se esses AWACS podem "iluminar" mísseis nucleares ou mísseis de porte do moskhit........
Se bem que um SU-30 já tem uma capacidade radar de operar como um Mini-Awacs do ca!@#$ imagine uma matilha de Flankers sendo vetorados por um AWACS dedicado.
Eu acho bom a Taiwanesada e Japonesada abrirem os olhos !
Ficam as dúvidas das capacidades de processamento desses radares.Como por exemplo quantos Flankers cada AWACS pode vetorar,capacidades de Datalink...............se esses AWACS podem "iluminar" mísseis nucleares ou mísseis de porte do moskhit........
Se bem que um SU-30 já tem uma capacidade radar de operar como um Mini-Awacs do ca!@#$ imagine uma matilha de Flankers sendo vetorados por um AWACS dedicado.
Eu acho bom a Taiwanesada e Japonesada abrirem os olhos !
talharim escreveu:Obrigado pelas informações faterra !
Ficam as dúvidas das capacidades de processamento desses radares.Como por exemplo quantos Flankers cada AWACS pode vetorar,capacidades de Datalink...............se esses AWACS podem "iluminar" mísseis nucleares ou mísseis de porte do moskhit........
Se bem que um SU-30 já tem uma capacidade radar de operar como um Mini-Awacs do ca!@#$ imagine uma matilha de Flankers sendo vetorados por um AWACS dedicado.
Eu acho bom a Taiwanesada e Japonesada abrirem os olhos !
Eu acho q os taiwaneses e q deviam ficar bastante preocupados com a China, pois correm o serio risco d virarem uma provincia chinesa
Apesar de todos os problemas, ainda confio no Brasil
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Enquanto nós foristas gozamos de prazer ficamos maravilhados com o desempenho de um Impala disparando seus canhões num treinamento ou o AMX jogando bombas burras e acertando ! Que maravilha ! (Quero ver num combate real tendo que se aproximar do alvo a 100 metros por culpa de não termos no nosso inventário armamento inteligente levando saraivada de anti-aérea e mísseis SAM,tipo seria uma proporção de metade das aeronaves abatidas a cada ataque.....em 4 ataques no inimigo perderíamos toda a frota de AMXs e pilotos).
Vamos ao que interessa,notícias sobre Forças Aéreas reais :
Jordânia está prestes a adquirir 20 caças F-16 usados via Bélgica e Holanda :
Indonesia prestes a adquirir + 6 caças SU-30 Russos :
Vamos ao que interessa,notícias sobre Forças Aéreas reais :
Jordânia está prestes a adquirir 20 caças F-16 usados via Bélgica e Holanda :
Jordan Set To Buy Used F-16s
By AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE, BRUSSELS
Jordan has signed an agreement to buy about 20 used Belgian and Dutch F-16 fighter jets, the Belgian defense ministry said April 20.
Amman had inked a letter of intent to buy the planes, which have been “modernized”, following a recent visit by Belgian Defense Minister Andre Flahaut, said a ministry spokesman.
But he declined to say how much the deal was worth and said that the letter would allow negotiators to hammer out the details of the transaction.
The ministry said that Belgium currently has 16 fighter jets which have been brought up to date and are for sale.
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Indonesia Seeks To Buy Six Sukhoi Jets from Russia
By AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE, JAKARTA
Indonesia is considering buying six more Sukhoi jets from Russia to beef up the country’s air force, the defense ministry said April 14.
Indonesia’s finance ministry had yet to approve the purchase but high-level inter-ministry talks regarding the plan had already taken place, said defense ministry spokesman Sutrimo.
He said President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono would discuss the matter in greater detail on his June visit to Moscow.
”We hope that by July this year, the government-to-government deal can be already signed. According to the Russians, the planes should be available for U.S. to use by early 2007,” Sutrimo told AFP.
He gave no further details and did not mention any figures.
The purchase would be in line with government efforts to build a squadron of Sukhoi and bring the total number of Sukhoi jets owned by Indonesia to 10. A normal Indonesian air force squadron would be made up of 12 planes.
Indonesia was forced to look for new arms suppliers after the United States imposed restrictions on military sales and cooperation over concerns about rights abuses committed by the Indonesian armed forces in East Timor in 1991.
The United States, eager for Indonesia’s assistance in the “war on terror”, lifted the arms restrictions and resumed full military ties last November