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#1 Mensagem por P44 » Dom Out 15, 2006 7:16 am

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The Swedish Navy's frigate HMS Helsingborg visits Malta during her sea trials in the Mediterranean. (Kockums AB photo)

In the Wake of the Ancient Greeks: Sea Trials in the Mediterranean


(Source: Kockums AB; issued Oct. 12, 2006 )

HMS Helsingborg has been undergoing sea trials in the Mediterranean over a period of approximately four weeks, to test her performance in these southern and warmer waters.

During transit down the English Channel, the French Coastguard command centre in Brest amusingly confirmed the effectiveness of the vessel’s stealth technology. The Centre admitted having problems spotting the vessel, although she’d raised a mast equipped with radar reflectors to make her more visible!

In an interview given to the Finnish daily newspaper Helsingborgs Dagblad, Commander Olof Stark described what happened: “As we passed down the English Channel, the Coastguard issued the following warning: ‘Swedish naval vessel passing through Dover Strait - undetectable by radar’.”

Kockums photographer Peter Nilsson captured these images of HMS Helsingborg in the Mediterranean.


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#2 Mensagem por P44 » Seg Abr 30, 2007 10:19 am

Umkhonto Missiles to Equip Visby Corvettes?

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Forecast International reports that Sweden has decided to equip its 5 Visby Class stealth corvettes with Denel's Umkhonto-IR anti-aircraft missile system (and see PDF brochure) at a total cost of about SEK 1 billion (currently about $149.6 million). The deal has yet to be approved by the Swedish parliament. This Umkhonto ("spear") relies on inertial guidance coordinates transmitted by the attached 3-D radar, followed by lock-on after launch with the infared seeker. The entire system is capable of engaging up to 8 targets, and has a range of 12 km and a maximum intercept altitude of about 10 km/ 33,000 feet. Umkhonto is currently in service on Finland's Hamina class missile boats and Hameenmaa class minelayers, on South Africa's new Meko Class frigates, and by the South African Army as a land-based SAM system.


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Forecast International adds that the stealthy Visby corvette program has received other setbacks and downgrades lately. Earlier in 2007, the new 127 mm ALECTO Anti-Submarine rocket system with its 2 trainable 6-rocket launchers had its development stopped. Visby corvettes will carry RBS15 Mk2 anti-ship missiles with half the range of the Mk3 variant, though their 100km range and warhead punch will still outclass the USA's much larger Littoral Combat Ships by a wide margin. Unlike the LCS, however, Visby class ships won't have an enclosed helicopter hangar, since the ship wouldn't allow enough room for the planned A-109 HKP-15SBO.

A Swedish DID reader takes issue with Forecast International's characterization, however, and also offers an explanation for the Umkhonto's selection....

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#3 Mensagem por alex » Seg Abr 30, 2007 10:44 am

estou sem referência quanto ao Umkhonto. este negócio está barato ou caro.
Alguem sabe comparar com em $$$ quanto aos custos do Aspide para as Niterois?




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#4 Mensagem por piratadabaixada » Qua Mai 02, 2007 11:21 am

Pergunto ao pessoal do mar, este tipo de navio seria interessante a MB ?

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#5 Mensagem por alex » Qua Mai 02, 2007 12:08 pm

Se pudessemos tirar a eletronica e o armamento e colocar em un navio de 3.000 toneladas acho que sim. porém tem apenas 700 toneladas e no Atlantico a pobre bichinha sofreria muito.
Outra coisa, vi um documentário da fabricação deste navio. Acho que é feito totalmente com material composto para efeito stealth. Acho que não existe estaleiro nacional que poderia construr este navio.




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#6 Mensagem por piratadabaixada » Qua Mai 02, 2007 1:57 pm

alex escreveu:Se pudessemos tirar a eletronica e o armamento e colocar em un navio de 3.000 toneladas acho que sim. porém tem apenas 700 toneladas e no Atlantico a pobre bichinha sofreria muito.
Outra coisa, vi um documentário da fabricação deste navio. Acho que é feito totalmente com material composto para efeito stealth. Acho que não existe estaleiro nacional que poderia construr este navio.


Se fizermos estas alterações seria outro navio :D




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#7 Mensagem por Bolovo » Qua Mai 02, 2007 3:08 pm

piratadabaixada escreveu:Pergunto ao pessoal do mar, este tipo de navio seria interessante a MB ?

Abraços,

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Não pois esse naviozinho sueco foi projetado para operar no Mar Báltico, onde o mar é mais calmo, tem mais lugares fugir, etc. Os nossos navios atuam no Atlântico Sul, num mar aberto, gigante e tal. Precisamos de fragatas, com 4000+ toneladas.




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#8 Mensagem por piratadabaixada » Qua Mai 02, 2007 3:15 pm

Bolovo escreveu:
piratadabaixada escreveu:Pergunto ao pessoal do mar, este tipo de navio seria interessante a MB ?

Abraços,

Heronim

Não pois esse naviozinho sueco foi projetado para operar no Mar Báltico, onde o mar é mais calmo, tem mais lugares fugir, etc. Os nossos navios atuam no Atlântico Sul, num mar aberto, gigante e tal. Precisamos de fragatas, com 4000+ toneladas.


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Como ninguem me respondia :cry: resolvi estudar, o báltico tem profundiade média é de 94 metros !




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#9 Mensagem por P44 » Ter Set 04, 2007 9:26 am

Falta de Oficiais na Marinha Sueca leva a imobilização do seu Maior Navio de guerra :!:

Published: 3rd September 2007 11:46 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/8369/
The Swedish navy's largest ship, HMS Carlskrona, is to be mothballed due to a lack of officers. A decision on whether to refit, sell or scrap the minelayer will be made later in the autumn.

The Carlskrona returned from its most recent long voyage in 2005. Since then, it has been kept in port most of the time. A maintenance crew of eight people has kept it in working order.

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The 3rd Naval Warfare Flotilla in Karlskrona currently has 43 vacancies for officers. A number of officers resigned their commissions during the summer.

The commander of the flotilla has asked the navy's top brass for permission to lay up HMS Carlskrona. This permission was granted, but it is unclear what will then happen to the ship. HMS Carlskrona was refitted in 2002 at a cost of 225 million kronor. The refit left the ship fit for active service until at least 2020.


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#10 Mensagem por Degan » Ter Set 04, 2007 10:36 am

alex escreveu:estou sem referência quanto ao Umkhonto. este negócio está barato ou caro.
Alguem sabe comparar com em $$$ quanto aos custos do Aspide para as Niterois?


Alex,

El Umkhonto es un misil que se ha hecho de una muy buena fama...
Es de guía IIR autónomo y lanzamiento vertical (VLS), requiere solo la data de ubicación estimada del blanco (gracias al radar 3D de las Visby), con un alcance de 12 km y un techo de 10 km...
Suecia compró estos misiles para sus 5 corbetas, en un deal total de 149,6 millones de dólares, no se cuantas unidades...pero es CARO... :?

http://www.denel.co.za/Resources/AS_Umkhonto.pdf

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#11 Mensagem por P44 » Qui Mar 27, 2008 12:16 pm

“I Am A Goth, Mind The Horn”: HMS Gotland’s Motto


(Source: Swedish Armed Forces; issued March 25, 2008)



For two years the submarine HMS Gotland has been on exercises with the American naval forces in the Pacific. The aim of the exercise has been to prepare for participation in international peacekeeping missions and to contribute to the development of the submarine forces of both countries.

The American navy had already learnt in 2000 that Swedish submarines are worthy adversaries. At that time HMS Halland, the HMS Gotland’s sister ship, in the Mediterranean in order to "be put through technical, tactical and operational tests in saltier and warmer waters than those in the Baltic Sea, in preparation for the Swedish Armed Forces future participation in those international submarine operations on which the Government had decided within the framework of the European Union" The Americans made a note of how silent the Swedish submarines were and, consequently, how difficult it was to discover them.

Feather in the cap

It was against this background that, the following year, the head of the US Navy’s research centre, discussed the need for joint exercises with Sweden’s then defence attaché in Washington, Rear Admiral Bertil Björkman. Björkman made the interpretation that this was an indirect request and emphasised that such a proposal must go through the proper political channels, but that he was prepared, if it were so wished, to raise the question at a higher level.

Björkman went home to Sweden and, under the greatest secrecy, reported back to the highest levels of both Armed Forces and government. They gave a positive response and Björkman could, on his return to the US, commence negotiations on the conditions for collaboration, a process which took around fifteen months to complete.

“Few realise what outstanding PR this has been. It was certainly a feather in the cap for Sweden,” says Björkman. At the same time he emphasises the efforts of the crew, who performed their tasks in an exemplary manner.

Different conditions

In the summer of 2005 HMS Gotland was stationed at the American naval base Point Loma in San Diego. With Point Loma as home base, HMS Gotland participated in a number of exercises, including submarine search missions involving US ships, airplanes and helicopters.

Lieutenant Commander Peter Östbring, the first head of the Swedish contingent, was also the first from Sweden to arrive in San Diego in order to build up a network of contacts.

“HMS Gotland has been involved in collaborations with most of the units of the Third Fleet. Our task has been not only to participate in exercises with large constellations of vessels, but also to avoid capture by American submarine search missions,” says Peter Östbring.

When asked if any equipment had been modified or replaced in the run up to the assignment in San Diego, he replies that certain modifications to the radio communication equipment were necessary in order to ensure compatibility, but in all other important regards HMS Gotland was equipped as usual.

Individual responsibility

Even if service on Swedish and American submarines bears many similarities, there are also a number of differences. Female crew members are nothing strange on a Swedish submarine. A woman crew member works under the same conditions as her male counterparts. In contrast, women are never to be found serving on American submarines. They have an entirely different attitude towards female crew.

Lieutenant Commander Paula Wallenburg is a submarine officer and was part of the crew of HMS Gotland. She was attached as an observer to the crew of USS Jefferson City and she was immediately aware that some were uncomfortable with a woman on-board, and that some were even overtly hostile to the notion.

“Things got better as time went on. They usually do, as long as you have an open and giving attitude,” says Wallenburg.

She tells as well of the "benefits" that were forced upon her as guest on-board an American submarine, for example that she was allocated a three-person cabin for her own use. Wallenburg tried to explain that it was quite unnecessary but she says that her efforts in this regard made not one jot of difference.

Crew structures also varied between the two fleets. Paula Wallenburg relates that when on land she planned activities at sea. On-board she was head of starboard watch as well as Fire Control Officer for the vessel’s torpedoes. As head of starboard watch she was responsible to the commanding officer for the submarine’s manoeuvering and navigation. The position also involves supervision of navigation, bottom depth, transmission and reception of messages. On top of all of that, documentation must be made and reports written. American visitors to HMS Gotland were surprised at how many tasks were allocated to so few people.

“We allow a significantly greater degree of responsibility rest in the hands of the individual member of personnel. For us this is a natural way of doing things, while the Americans take a more restricted view of their respective tasks on-board. There is nothing wrong with that, it just a different way of approaching matters,” opines Wallenburg.

Orange radar screens

The US vessels on joint manoeuvres with the Swedes included, for example, destroyers of Arleigh Burke class, cruisers of Ticonderoga class and the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan, which is the American Navy’s newest aircraft carrier. HMS Gotland participated also in exercises with the anti-submarine maritime patrol aircraft P-3 Orion, the anti-submarine helicopter Sea Hawk and the fighter jet F-18 Hornet.

Conditions were totally different from those to be found in Swedish waters. While depths reach seldom over 100 metres in the Baltic, the ocean bottom, in the areas in which the manoeuvres were performed, can lie thousands of metres below the surface. The higher salt content of the water alters, for example, how buoyancy is calculated. Water currents and wind conditions also differ from those in Swedish waters. But that was the point of the exercise – to learn from each other.

“We have to adapt our course of action to the fact that our opponent in the manoeuvres consists of aircraft carriers and cruisers. Apart from that, there is no real difference between operating in the Baltic Sea or the Pacific Ocean,” Östbring explains.

However, the sound environment for the sonar operators is very different. The sounds of the Pacific Ocean’s animal life, including the whistles and clicks of whales, are not at all like those to be heard in the sea channels of the Swedish coast.

“On several occasions our sonar screens turned orange,” as Paula Wallenberg tells it. It turned out to be a school of dolphins wanting to play. “When you have four thousand metres of water below your keel, you feel quite small, but with a school of dolphins just outside, it doesn’t feel quite so lonely.”

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Visby Corvettes Bunkers At Sea


(Source: Swedish Armed Forces; issued Dec. 9, 2009)


(Issued in Swedish only; unofficial translation by defense-aerospace.com)



The delivery of the first two Visby corvettes to the Armed Forces is now very close. One of the final tests before delivery is the RAS (Replenishment At Sea), to fill up fuel from another ship at sea.

“Being able to get fuel from a support ship at sea makes the corvettes may no longer endurance at sea, thus avoid time-consuming movements to and from the quay,” says Patrik Norberg who is the commanding officer of HMS Härnösand.

If the ships are far from the port, such as during operation in the Gulf of Aden, the RAS capability becomes very important. A recent example was the support ship HMS Visborg, who took on fuel in the Stockholm area.

The bunkering will not necessarily come from a Swedish support vessel, so procedures and equipment are the same whether the refueling is done by support vessels of other nations.

The refueling ship drags a hose behind her, which is taken on board by the corvette, and when everything is connected and clear the fuel is pumped over. Should a leak occur, the transfer is immediately stopped.

What is special about the Visby corvettes is the way their foredeck is built. The crew is inside the hull, and must recover the floating hose by hand. Management becomes a bit harder, but on the other hand, it is weather-protected, which is a major benefit for staff.
The tests were incredibly smooth, we had prepared ourselves carefully and everything went as planned, "concludes Patrik Norberg.
On December 16, HMS Helsingborg and HMS Härnösand will be handed over to the Armed Forces. Bothe are in the so-called Version 4. In parallel, ongoing development of three Visby corvettes will upgrade them to Version 5, which will also have the ability to operate anti-ship missiles.

The corvettes Helsingborg and Härnösand in their current configuration are able to carry out many different missions, of which security in Gulf of Aden is just one example.

During the next year they will have a busy training schedule with the goal to be ready for action both at home and abroad in October 2010.

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#13 Mensagem por P44 » Sex Jan 22, 2010 11:11 am

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The first two Visby-class stealth corvettes, HMS Helsingborg and HMS Härnösand, are now operational with the Swedish Navy. (Kockums photo)

Two Corvettes are Operational


(Source: Kockums AB; dated Jan. 18, web-posted Jan. 21, 2010)

Two of the Visby corvettes, HMS Helsingborg and HMS Härnösand, are now operational with the Royal Swedish Navy, as part of the Third Naval Warfare Flotilla, based in Karlskrona. Built by Kockums, they significantly enhance the Swedish Navy’s capability.

“With their stealth technology, the Visby corvettes are the right concept for the future, given the environment in which we shall be operating, namely the littoral zone. The ships will form the core of the Swedish Navy for years to come. And they have attracted considerable international interest,” states Rear Admiral Anders Grenstad, Inspector General of the Royal Swedish Navy.

The ships are built for service with Sweden’s rapid reaction force, designed primarily to operate in the Baltic, although also on international missions in the littoral zone. Featuring full stealth capabilities, these vessels are difficult to detect either with radar or other sophisticated detection technologies, offering numerous tactical advantages. They are constructed of carbon fibre.

It is also possible to exit the stealth mode, perhaps on an international mission where a temporary need to demonstrate some military muscle arises, after which the ship can ‘disappear’ again.

The Swedish Navy has always operated in the littoral zone, an area in which it is specialised. Similar coastal waters exist in all parts of the world, of course, precisely those areas where maritime traffic is most intense.

The Visby concept has generated a lot of attention, and naval experts the world over are following developments with keen interest.

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#14 Mensagem por P44 » Qui Fev 25, 2010 1:31 pm

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Kockums Receives Overall Design Order for Next-Generation Submarine


(Source: Kockums AB; issued February 25, 2010)

Kockums AB, part of ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems, has signed a contract with FMV (the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration), concerning overall of the design phase of the next-generation submarine.

This confirms the intention to develop Sweden’s submarine capability. Kockums is prime contractor for the order.

The Supreme Commander of the Swedish Armed Forces has emphasized the importance of acquiring the next-generation submarine on a number of different occasions.

The next-generation submarine features several advances in the development of underwater technology and marks the adaptation of submarines to meet current and future threats and to conduct the international mission now required. This refers particularly to the submarine’s role as an information gatherer.

Next-generation also refers to further refinements in terms of stealth technology. The submarine will be able to see and hear everything over a wide area, while itself remaining undetected. It will be designed to be efficient in the Baltic and other littoral waters.

“This is an important first step, not only for Kockums, but for the Swedish Armed Forces as a whole. We shall now be able to maintain our position at the cutting edge of submarine technology, which is vital in the light of current threat scenarios. HMS Gotland demonstrated what she is capable of during two years of joint exercises in the water off the USA. This next-generation submarine marks a further refinement of technology,” states CEO Ola Alfredsson, commenting the news.

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#15 Mensagem por P44 » Seg Abr 12, 2010 9:21 am

Sweden to Invest In New Submarines


(Source: TheLocal.se; published April 11, 2010)



The Swedish military is set to shell out billions of kronor for two new state-of the-art submarines while also upgrading two older vessels, defence minister Sten Tolgfors has revealed, defence minister Sten Tolgfors has revealed.

Writing in the Sunday edition of Stockholm daily Svenska Dagbladet, the minister conceded that the Baltic Sea area remained stable, with only Kaliningrad and St. Petersburg breaking the circle of EU and NATO-affiliated countries.

"However, one can never rule out long-term risks and incidents, which could also be of a military nature," Tolgfors wrote. The multi-billion kronor investment is to be included in next week's spring budget proposal, he added.

Ship builder Kockums said in February that it had signed a contract with FMV (the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration) regarding the construction of next-generation submarines.

“This is an important first step, not only for Kockums, but for the Swedish Armed Forces as a whole," said Kockums CEO Alfredsson in a statement released at the time.

"We shall now be able to maintain our position at the cutting edge of submarine technology, which is vital in the light of current threat scenarios. HMS Gotland demonstrated what she is capable of during two years of joint exercises in the water off the USA. This next-generation submarine marks a further refinement of technology”, he said.

Until now however the Swedish government had not given any indication of the scope of its plans. Along with the two new vessels, two Gotland class attack submarines will also receive major upgrades as part of the investment.

Tolgfors said the move would ensure that Sweden's submarine fleet maintained its "top international calibre". The minster also shared Kockums' view that the next-generation Swedish submarine would attract a great deal of interest abroad and would likely lead to export deals in the future.

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