Marinha Indiana

[Carlos Mathias]

E se houver uma cláusula de sigilo justamente para evitar que isso vaze?

[Penguin]

E se houver uma cláusula de sigilo justamente para evitar que isso vaze?

Entao o congresso e o governo terao que admitir as "clausulas restritivas", sem tornar publico os detalhes, para preservar a seriedade do "GAO indiano".

Os americanos forma diretos na resposta ao GAO indiano:

(...) The United States has denied imposing restrictions on the Indian Navy (IN) regarding its 2007 sale of USS Trenton, the 16,900-ton Austin-class landing platform dock (LPD) now renamed INS Jalashwa. (...)

(...) "There are no unique terms or language associated with the transfer," US Navy (USN) Secretary Donald C Winter said in New Delhi on 28 March at the end of a three-day visit. (...)

Agora cabe ao GAO defender sua reputacao ou deixar para la...

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[Carlos Mathias]

E isso demonstra que os indianos são o quê?

[Penguin]

E isso demonstra que os indianos são o quê?

Ate aqui, de uma forma geral, eles tem sido nacionalistas, nao no mal sentido.

[Tigershark]

Índia procura por mais seis SSK
A Marinha da Índia lançará em breve no mercado mundial seus requisitos para a aquisição de mais seis submarinos convencionais, informou o almirante Sureesh Mehta no último final de semana. Atualmente a Índia desenvolve um programa de construção de seis SSK Scorpène em parceria com a DCN nos estaleiros locais de Magazon. Este contrato, no valor de 4,6 bilhões de dólares, foi assinado em 2005 e prevê a instalação do sistema AIP MESMA em todas as unidades.

Além disso, segue em ritmo acelerado a construção do demonstrador de tecnologia ATV (”Advanced Technology Vessel”), um submarino de propulsão nuclear totalmente desenvolvido na Índia pelo DRDO.

Atualmente a Marinha da Índia possui 16 submarinos convencionais senso quatro IKL 209, 10 Kilo e dois Foxtrot. Além disso, a Índia ainda espera o “leasing” de um submarino nuclear da Rússia para breve. Possivelmente um Project 971 (Akula para a OTAN).

Os rumos adotados pela Marinha da Índia demonstram que a combinação nuclear/convencional com AIP deva ser adotada por ela nas décadas seguintes. Depois do Japão, agora a Índia será o próximo país com SSK dotados de sistemas AIP. Atualmente o clube AIP já conta com Suécia, Alemanha, Itália, Grécia, Coréia do Sul, Paquistão, Japão e possivelmente Rússia e China. Parece que o principal argumento dos críticos do sistema AIP na Marinha do Brasil (útil apenas para “mares interiores e pouco profundos”) começa a perder sustentação.

[P44]

India to get Russian nuclear submarine after 17 yr wait






Moscow, July 3: India will get its first Akula class Russian nuclear submarine in 2009, equipping its navy with the quietest and lethal underwater war machine after a gap of 17 years to enhance its blue water capabilities.


Factory trials of the multi-role nuclear submarine, christened INS Chakra which India-will get on a 10-year-lease, commenced on June 11 at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur shipyard and will be followed by sea trials, Russian defence sources said, adding it will be delivered by September 2009.
According to experts, Chakra would help India fill the void caused by the delays in the indigenous Advanced Technology Vessel project to build a nuclear powered, guided missile attack submarine.
Three Indian naval crews for the nuclear submarine have already been trained at the specially set up training centre in Sosnovy Bor near St. Petersburg.
This facility would also be used for training crews for the Indian nuclear submarines of ATV project currently in the advanced stages of development, sources said.
Though they said that India has financed the completion of construction of submarine of project 971 "Shchuka B"(NATO codename Akula) under the USD 650 million deal signed in 2004 as part of the larger Gorshkov package, they did not reveal the cost of the lease of Chakra.
Akula (Shark) is the quietest Russian attack submarine and Chakra has been christened after its predecessor leased by the Indian Navy in 1988 from the erstwhile USSR. In January 1988, ex-USSR had leased K-43 nuclear submarine of project 670 (NATO codename Charlie) which was with the Indian Navy as INS Chakra till March 1991, when under the intense US pressure beleaguered Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev had refused to extend the lease.

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news ... it/330891/




Specifications

Classification:
Podvodnaya Lodka Atomnaya (PLA)
Nuclear Powered Submarine
Designer:
G.N. Chernyshev at Malakhit
Builders:
Zavod imeni Leninskiy Komsomol, Komsolol'sk-na-Amur
Sevmashpredpriyatiye, Severodvinshk
Displacement (tons):
5,700-7,500 tons Surfaced
7,900-9,100 tons Submerged
7,900-9,500 tons Submerged - Akula II
Speed (kts):
20 knots surfaced
28-35 knots submerged
Operating Depth
1,475 feet Maximum Safe Depth
1,804 feet Never-Exceed Depth
1,970-2,160 feet Crush depth
Dimensions (m):
108.0 meters long
111.7 meters long
13.5 meters beam
9.6 meters draft
Propulsion:
1 190 MW OK-650B pressurized water nuclear reactor
1 OK-7 steam turbine 43,000 shp
2 OK-2 Turbogenerators rated at 2,000kw
1 7 bladed propeller
Endurance 4,500 full power hours
80 days stores edurance
Crew:
51-62 [25 officers / 26 enlisted]
Armament:
Missiles:
21 /81R (SS-N-15) or Vodopad (SS-N-16)
Torpedoes:
total of 40 weapons 4 21-in (533-mm) torpedo tubes
4 26-in (650-mm) torpedo tubes (bow)
6 external tubes [Improved Akula and Akula II]
Systems:
Chiblis Surface Search Radar
Medvyedista-945 Navigation system
Molniya-M Satellite communications
MGK-80 (?) Underwater communications
Tsunami, Kiparis, Anis, Sintez and Kora Communications antennas
Paravan Towed VLF Antenna
Vspletsk Combat direction system
Sonars
MGK-503-M Skat active/passive suite
Akula flank arrays
Pelamida towed array
MG-70 mine detection sonar
Countermeasures
Bukhta ESM/ECM
2 MG-74 Korund noise simulation decoys (torpedo-sized)
MT-70 Sonar intercept receiver
Nikhrom-M IFF

[P44]

Indian Navy Seeks Six More Diesel Submarines After Scorpene


(Source: ddi Indian government news; issued Sept. 26, 2008)



India has initiated the process of acquiring six more submarines on the lines of the under-construction Scorpenes to augment its underwater warfare capabilities.

"The Navy has initiated the process of acquisition of six more diesel-electric submarines and has issued a Request for Information (RFI) to major manufacturers across the globe," top Defence Ministry sources told a news agency on Friday.

"The Defence Ministry will now await responses from these companies and will follow it up with global tenders or Request for Proposals (RFP) next year," they said.

In all, Navy plans to procure 30 new submarines to have formidable underwater fighting capabilities.

India already has 16 submarines of the Russian Kilo and German HDW Shishumar Class.


Among the countries from where India is seeking information are France, Russia and Italy, all with major submarine manufacturing capabilities.

The new submarines would be procured as a follow-on of the six Scorpene submarines being built at the Defence Public Sector Undertaking shipyard, Mazagon Dockyards Limited (MDL), in Mumbai.

"The additional six submarines will start joining the Indian Navy fleet after all the first set of six Scorpenes have joined the naval fleet," the sources said.

The Navy would continue to place orders for new submarines after the completion of procurement of these new submarines, which is expected to take at least three to four years.

The Navy intends to build 30 new submarines under Project-75 and all of them would be constructed in India. The future submarines to be built under the project would be added with latest armament, sensor and other essential hi-tech equipment, sources said.

Interestingly, the new submarines construction order may not go to MDL this time, as the Navy would like to develop another shipyard with submarine-building capabilities within the country, sources said.

India signed the Rs 16,000-crore contract for six submarines in October 2005. New Delhi had to upgrade the MDL infrastructure and facilities for constructing the six Scorpenes in collaboration with French consortium, DCNS.

The first Scorpene from MDL is expected to join the Indian Navy by the end of 2012. The remaining five would join the Navy at the rate of one each per year from 2013.

All the six submarines would add lethal power to the Indian Navy by year 2018, sources said.

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[P44]

PROJECT 15A DDG

The weapons package will include twin 24-cell launchers carrying 48 Barak-2 vertically-launched 70km-range surface-to-air missiles, twin 16-cell launchers carrying 32 Barak-1 anti-missile missiles, 16 BrahMos vertically-launched MRCMs housed within a VLS cell built by Larsen & Toubro, and one Arsenal A-190E 100mm main gun.

DETALHES
http://trishulgroup.blogspot.com/2008/0 ... ailed.html

[Bourne]

É um passo natural da marinha indiana ter um navio desses, consoante com as suas pretenções futuras e posicionamento no mundo.

Agora, no Brasil, tem gente que está feliz com as FREMM adaptadas para determinadas missões que deveriam ser de destroyers como o KDX III

[talharim]

Eta a Índia tá pegando pesado

Quem vence a corrida armamentista/guerra fria asiática ??? China ou Índia ???

[Junker]

só lembrando que a cooperação nuclear entre o fórum IBSA (Índia, Brasil e África do Sul), pode estar a caminho:

NUCLEAR ENERGY
Nuclear power not on Ibsa agenda...yet

By: Keith Campbell
Published: 14 Oct 08 - 16:05

Despite the recent passing of the US-India civil nuclear cooperation treaty, approved by the International Atomic Energy Agency, which makes it possible for States adhering to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) to now enter into cooperation with the South Asian power in the field of civil nuclear power (India has never been a member of the NPT and is a nuclear weapons State), nuclear energy is not yet on the agenda of the India, Brazil, South Africa (Ibsa) group.

This has been exclusively confirmed to Engineering News Online by Brazilian Foreign Trade, Industry and Development Minister Miguel Jorge in Delhi. "Nuclear energy cooperation is not yet a theme for Ibsa," he affirmed. "We have no plan for nuclear energy." But, he added, "We all have capabilities in this field."

This followed a statement in the final session of the third Ibsa Business Forum, by Indian Minister of State for External Affairs Anand Sharma, in which he stated that India "appreciated South Africa's and Brazil's support for India's integration into the global civil nuclear sector. We have been talking to South Africa and Brazil. We need to include this also in the sharing of technologies."

He added that all three countries have strengths in the nuclear sector.

Jorge reports that, regarding Brazil's nuclear power programme, the government had decided to complete the country's third nuclear power plant - located, like the first two, at Angra dos Reis in the Rio de Janeiro state.

Further, it has been decided to build four more nuclear power plants between 2015 and 2020. Brazil also has a programme, under the Brazilian navy, to develop a nuclear power plant to power submarines, and it is expected that this design will also be employed, in due course, ashore, to provide small nuclear power plants to provide energy to smaller centres in the remoter parts of the country.

(Keith Campbell attended the Ibsa Business Summit as the guest of the Confederation of Indian Industries)

Edited by: Keith Campbell

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/articl ... _id=145176

Quem sabe não aconteça uma cooperação nuclear/militar? Talvez SNA com Agni III SLBM...

[talharim]

O Greenpeace,O movimento dos sem terra,o viva Rio,o Sou da Paz e a OAB nunca deixarão isso acontecer.

[Carlos Mathias]

Esse navio indiano não serviria a MB não? Pelas especificações parece ser bem armado pacas. E o principal, é indiano, logo não causaria as famosas crises alérgicas no pessoal de branco.

[Wolfgang]

Esse navio indiano não serviria a MB não? Pelas especificações parece ser bem armado pacas. E o principal, é indiano, logo não causaria as famosas crises alérgicas no pessoal de branco.

Sou alérgico a curry.

[Carlos Mathias]