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Re: EUA

Enviado: Ter Ago 07, 2018 3:37 pm
por Túlio
P44 escreveu: Ter Ago 07, 2018 3:30 pm E desde aí nunca mais te falou :mrgreen:
Absolutamente, temos um histórico pessoal e profissional que remonta a DÉCADAS! Além disso, onde mais, aqui nos cafundós, o "gaijo" iria achar quem tivesse equipamento dos buenos e soubesse se mexer na internet quando ele precisasse? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Na verdade EU é que me toquei da gafe e a partir daí jamais mencionei sua situação financeira em frente da sua better half... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: EUA

Enviado: Ter Ago 07, 2018 4:02 pm
por GIL
P44 isso é pra vc.


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Enviado: Qui Ago 09, 2018 2:41 pm
por Bolovo
"ain, os russos interferiram nas nossas eleições!"

James Woolsey, diretor da CIA de 1993 até 1995:


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Enviado: Sex Ago 10, 2018 10:20 am
por cabeça de martelo
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Enviado: Sex Ago 10, 2018 3:58 pm
por P44
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Enviado: Qua Ago 22, 2018 10:21 am
por cabeça de martelo

Re: EUA

Enviado: Dom Ago 26, 2018 7:42 pm
por Bourne
John McCain se foi e ainda postaram nada. Era o representante de uma América e Partido Republicano diferente. Aquele tipo de adversário que era respeitado, mantinha posições mesmo que fossem contra o partido. Pouca a ver com radicalismo, republicano e democrata, que emergiu a partir da década de 1990 e ganharam protagonismo nos tempos recentes.
John McCain, the irreplaceable American

JOHN MCCAIN’S sense of obligation to his country was shaped by a long family history of military service that included the contributions of two four-star admirals: his father and paternal grandfather. It was tested to the utmost by five years of cruel confinement and torture in a North Vietnamese prison — an ordeal from which he emerged to spend many years in public office and national prominence.

But it may be that the most important episode of his life — in terms of giving him an understanding of what Americans owe to each another — was one that occurred a few months before he was brought down over Hanoi. In late July 1967, he was in the cockpit of his A-4 Skyhawk fighter jet on the deck of the USS Forrestal when a rocket was accidentally launched across the deck, wreaking havoc on the ship. Mr. McCain, then a lieutenant commander, escaped the inferno, his flight suit in flames. One hundred and thirty-four lives were lost in the explosion and fire.

“After a short while,” he wrote in an affecting passage in his memoir, “I went to sick bay to have my burns and shrapnel wounds treated. There I found a horrible scene of many men burned beyond saving, grasping the last moments of life. .?.?. Someone called my name, a kid, anonymous to me because the fire had burned off all his identifying features. He asked me if a pilot in our squadron was okay. I replied that he was. The young man said, ‘Thank God,’ and died. I left the sick bay unable to keep my composure. .?.?. Men sacrificed their lives for one another and for their ship. Many of them were only eighteen and nineteen years old.”

In that book, “Faith of My Fathers: A Family Memoir,” Mr. McCain spoke frankly of his imperfections: “I have spent much of my life choosing my own attitude, often carelessly, often for no better reason than to indulge a conceit. At other times, I chose my own way with good cause and to good effect. .?.?. When I chose well I did so to keep a balance in my life — a balance between pride and regret, between liberty and honor.”

American politics was badly out of balance during Mr. McCain’s final years, and while he angered some and made his share of mistakes, he accomplished as much as any politician of his time toward restoring some sense of equilibrium — and of truth, honor and integrity — to the governing of a nation that he served well and courageously in war and in peace. He became a dominant figure in the Senate through willpower, persistence and determination, because he commanded the respect due one who has sacrificed much for his country, and because, more often than most these days, he knew what he believed and stuck to it.

Mr. McCain represented a conservative state, and much of his record reflected that fact. He did some things in the interest of getting elected that he later regretted and renounced, such as a vote early in his Arizona political career against the creation of a national holiday honoring the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., and his failure in 2000 to take a stand against the display of the Confederate flag in South Carolina at a time when he was running in a presidential primary there. After the primary, he returned to South Carolina and said of his evasiveness on the flag issue: “I feared that if I answered honestly, I could not win the South Carolina primary. So I chose to compromise my principles. I broke my promise to always tell the truth. .?.?. Honesty is easy after the fact when my own interests are no longer involved.” He also let politics push him to choose Sarah Palin, the untested Alaska governor, as his presidential running mate in 2008 when he would have preferred the more-qualified Connecticut senator, Joseph I. Lieberman.

We disagreed with Mr. McCain on various matters over the years, but when we did so, it was more with a sense of disappointment than of anger. He was such a respected figure that his views had credibility even among many who strongly opposed them. And on some of the great issues of his time — campaign finance reform, immigration, human rights, promotion of democracy, treatment of prisoners, national defense and deterrence of foreign aggression — Mr. McCain was a courageous and principled leader. With his climactic vote in the summer of 2017 against a health-care bill that he thought bad for the country, he made a dramatic plea for cooperation and mutual respect in Congress. It was a message that should be heeded, especially by those in his party who seem to have come unmoored from their conservative principles by the faux-populist exploits of President Trump. Mr. McCain, on numerous occasions, rose above party politics to pursue what he honestly saw as the national interest, and he accomplished a great deal. The country has lost an irreplaceable asset.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 322d0b4bff

Re: EUA

Enviado: Seg Ago 27, 2018 9:23 am
por P44
Menos um "warmonger" .

Um apoiante dos terroristas sirios, um adepto das intervenções americanas em tudo o que era país.

"bomb bomb bomb, bomb Iran"

Faz falta como a fome.

Re: EUA

Enviado: Seg Ago 27, 2018 10:35 am
por Clermont
Bourne escreveu: Dom Ago 26, 2018 7:42 pmPouca a ver com radicalismo, republicano e democrata,
McCain não passava de um assassino em massa, sempre buscando novas guerras para matar e mutilar jovens americanos e arruinar o seu país.

Ele disse, "somos todos georgianos, agora" quando tentou provocar uma guerra contra a Rússia, que tinha sido atacada pelo psicopata presidente da Geórgia.

Em suma, John McCain foi um cretino, e causa indignação assistir a mídia brasileira o endeusando pelo único motivo de ele ser inimigo de Donald Trump.

Re: EUA

Enviado: Seg Ago 27, 2018 3:43 pm
por Viktor Reznov
John McCain era um RINO, republican in name only. De uns anos pra cá o eleitorado republicano tomou um enorme ódio dele pois o mesmo flertava demais com o partido democrata nas decisões que tomava.

Re: EUA

Enviado: Ter Ago 28, 2018 6:09 am
por P44
Depois de morrerem são todos uns santos

Não se tivesse o McCain virado contra o Trump, e o liberais que agora o chamam de "heroi", diriam dele o que o Moisés não disse do toucinho...como aliás diziam em 2008 e em 2012...hipocrisia acima de tudo!

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Re: EUA

Enviado: Ter Ago 28, 2018 3:27 pm
por Bourne
Clermont escreveu: Seg Ago 27, 2018 10:35 am
McCain não passava de um assassino em massa, sempre buscando novas guerras para matar e mutilar jovens americanos e arruinar o seu país.

Ele disse, "somos todos georgianos, agora" quando tentou provocar uma guerra contra a Rússia, que tinha sido atacada pelo psicopata presidente da Geórgia.

Em suma, John McCain foi um cretino, e causa indignação assistir a mídia brasileira o endeusando pelo único motivo de ele ser inimigo de Donald Trump.
Nesses termos, todos são cretinos. Todos no sentido amplo de todos. O estado, a organização da sociedade, política e economia não tem nada de utópica. É pragmática. A imposição da paz e ordem, seguida pela defesa de interesses é a regra. E refletem nas relações internacional. O mundo não é feito de paz e amor. Não é uma comunidade alternativa.

Ao menos, o McCain era articulado e tinha ideia do que fazer. Algo que sumiu no sistema político norte-americano recente. Hoje é o mergulho na mediocridade, anti-intelectualismo e tosquices em geral. Não só o partido republicano. O partido democrata que está um horror. Ambos no nível dos políticos brasileiros.

Re: EUA

Enviado: Qui Ago 30, 2018 12:31 pm
por Túlio
Ademais, nosso querido Saint McCain :twisted: nunca pediu para ninguém fazer o que ele mesmo não tenha feito (foi até POW no Vietnã).

Re: EUA

Enviado: Sex Ago 31, 2018 4:43 am
por P44

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Enviado: Sáb Set 01, 2018 5:35 pm
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