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como dizemos por cá

"blablabla wiskas saquetas"

Aqui falamos blablabla Whiskas Sachet!

Whiskas é bom! Se eu pudesse, comprava pra meus gatos.

E se eu fosse a PresidentA, decidia pelo Gripen de uma vez!

Como a versão NG é uma aeronave em desenvolvimento, o Brasil poderia participar ativamente, inclusive adicionando soluções desenvolvidas localmente.

Acredito que valeria a pena entrar no Gripen E/F somente se houver um acordo extra com a Suiça, ou seja o caça sendo um programa trinacional. E mais, iniciar o desenvolvimento do FS2020 desde já.

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Glauber Prestes escreveu:Aqui falamos blablabla Whiskas Sachet!

snobs

Brasileiros, snobs por sua própria natureza... Peço desculpas por toda a nação, não é a nossa intenção, somos legais POWS,

Gripen Pulls Out of Canada Fighter Competition


(Source: defense-aerospace.com; published June 3, 2013)



PARIS --- In a surprise reversal, Sweden’s Saab has decided to pull out of Canada’s fledging fighter competition, although it may rejoin later if conditions change, the company said June 3. Saab is the first of the five competitors to pull out, but other competitors also have expressed doubts that the competition will be fair and open.

“Saab followed the discussions in Canada with interest [but] at this time and stage of the evaluation process, Saab has decided not to take part,” the company said in a June 3 e-mail message. “Our conclusion is that the conditions were not yet ripe for us to act.”

Saab’s withdrawal is all the more surprising that, just days before the week-end, it appeared eager to continue the competition. Saab executive vice-president Patrick Palmer was quoted by Postmedia news May 31 as saying that “I think [Canada] really [has] a desire to get the information. I don’t think they have a predefined outcome. And we are supportive of it.”

In a June 3 e-mailed statement, Saab spokeswoman Karin Walka added that “as the customer continues to mature their process and further define the way forward, Saab will re-evaluate this decision, based on our assessment the Government of Canada’s requirements, to see if and how Saab can take part in the continuing process as well as the applicability of any potential Saab solution.”

Canadian officials quoted May 31 by the Sun News Network say the possibility of buying Saab fighters is not permanently discounted. "Not participating in the market analysis in no way precludes a company from participating in any potential, future competitive process," one official said.

Saab had expressed interest in competing to replace the Royal Canadian Air Force’s fleet of CF-18 Hornet fighters, in which Boeing (F-18E), Dassault Aviation (Rafale) and Eurofighter (Typhoon) are competing against the Lockheed-Martin F-35, which the Canadian government was publicly committed to buy until its skyrocketing price, technical problems and a particularly slanted procurement process forced it to “re-set” the project in December.

“Defence companies whose fighter jets are competing against the F-35 stealth fighter have raised concerns about the new way bureaucrats are evaluating options for Canada’s next warplane,” Postmedia newspapers reported May 31, adding that “There are worries F-35 manufacturer Lockheed Martin continues to enjoy a distinct advantage despite the Conservative government’s promise to push the reset button, with some saying the best solution is an open competition.”

To restore confidence, the Canadian government took responsibility for managing the fighter procurement process away from the Department of National Defence and moved it to a newly-created National Fighter Procurement Secretariat (NFPS) which prepared a 7-point plan to which it is scrupulously adhering.

However, industrial benefits obtained to date by Canadian industry in the F-35 program – US$488 million as of last week – the strong bias previously shown by the government, the DND and the RCAF in favor of the F-35 has left some manufacturers pretty dubious about the competition’s fairness.

“The best proof that this is a genuine process would be arriving at the end of this year with a decision to really open a competition,” said Dassault senior vice-president Yves Robins.

Describing its progress to date, the Fighter Secretariat said in a May 31 statement that “The focus of…. work over the past few months has been on the…. evaluation of options. Companies with available aircraft have been engaged through questionnaires on fighter aircraft capabilities, price and industrial benefits. Companies were briefed on the assessment methodology for the capability questionnaire on May 3, 2013 and price and industrial benefits questionnaires on May 31, 2013.”

It also said that its “methodology, the three questionnaires and the approach to options analysis have been developed by the Secretariat and the Royal Canadian Air Force, and reviewed and challenged by the Independent Review Panel”, which meets regularly and ensures “the work to evaluate options is both rigorous and impartial.”

Saab notes in its statement that “We continue our focus on currently on-going Gripen campaigns in the rest of the world as well as the continuing process to provide the Gripen E (the next generation) to Sweden and potentially to Switzerland.”.

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Saab notes in its statement that “We continue our focus on currently on-going Gripen campaigns in the rest of the world as well as the continuing process to provide the Gripen E (the next generation) to Sweden and potentially to Switzerland.”.

Não mencionou o Brasil.
Foi só um lapso ou um sinal?

Snowmeow escreveu:

Saab notes in its statement that “We continue our focus on currently on-going Gripen campaigns in the rest of the world as well as the continuing process to provide the Gripen E (the next generation) to Sweden and potentially to Switzerland.”.

Não mencionou o Brasil.
Foi só um lapso ou um sinal?

Brasil é só uma possibilidade. Está no "in the rest of the world". Suécia e Suiça já tem um acordo, que resta fechar com a aprovação do Parlamento Suiço.

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PARIS: Saab cuts metal on first Gripen E test aircraft
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By: CRAIG HOYLE PARIS 4 hours ago Source: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... ft-387476/

Saab has cut metal on its first of three dedicated test examples of the Gripen E fighter, and flown the type's production-standard active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar for the first time in its current two-seat demonstrator.

Speaking at the Paris air show on 19 June, Saab's head of aeronautics Lennart Sindahl said the metal-cutting milestone was achieved recently at the company's Linkoping site in Sweden, and involved the radar bulkhead for an aircraft designated as JAS 39-8. This is due to make its flight debut in 2015, followed by two more E-model test aircraft.

Demonstration-phase work using a modified D-model trainer in early June advanced into a fifth phase of activity, with the aircraft now flying with a digital head-up display, new infrared search and track sensor and Selex ES-05 Raven AESA array installed.


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"We have done the first flights in Phase 5, and this aircraft is doing a really great job in development," Sindahl says. "We are well ahead, with all of the [Gripen E] systems now in the air. I feel very confident in relation to the risk on this programme."

Deliveries of the new-generation Gripen are scheduled to start in 2018. Sweden has committed to buying 60 of the advanced version, with Switzerland also in the advanced phase of approving as 22-aircraft deal.

Meanwhile, Sindahl says Saab has already started on the path of studying a capability to use the Gripen E in an optionally-manned configuration. One mission example for the system could see it perform long-range reconnaissance flights beyond the range possible using a crewed fighter, due to the need to provide combat search and rescue helicopter cover for its pilot.

"We have a lot of ideas, but we don't want to start a journey on our own. We need to have a customer on board and to support us in designing this in the best possible way."

vá lá, já evoluiu de folha de papel para folha de metal.

ja li neste forum que o Gripen E não era ainda o projecto realizado.
Pelo que se vê esta-se a realizar. E o Brasil de F-5

O Brasil é que é um projeto a se realizar, não o Gripen E/F!

Could Saab make Gripen go unmanned? And why bother?
By Craig Hoyle on June 24, 2013 4:47 PM
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-d ... -unma.html

One of the more surprising bits of news at the Paris air show was the disclosure by Saab's chief executive of early studies into enabling the Gripen to fly as an unmanned asset. Here's a company-provided image showing how that might look:


The only time that combat aircraft usually go unmanned is when an aged type transitions into becoming an aerial target (eg the QF-4 Phantom and soon the QF-16 with the US Air Force), or when a nation accuses another of having modified something for use as a "death drone" (ie US claims of WMD-equipped Iraqi L-29s some years back).

So why would an operator want to do this with a Gripen? The example given by another Saab exec was the kind of long-range reconnaissance mission performed over Libya by NATO assets like the Swedish air force's JAS 39s in 2011. These didn't go as deep into the country as needed, due to the maximum range of the combat search and rescue helicopters which would go and recover a downed pilot.

So, says Saab, why not pop a load of long-range fuel tanks on a Gripen and remove the now-optional pilot? The company has previously flown unmanned demonstrators like the Sharc and Filur, and the jump wouldn't be that big, it reckons.

The press pack seemed a bit under-sold on this concept: maybe just adding air-to-air refuelling for the CSAR helos might be an easier and cheaper option?

The company also revealed that it has cut metal on its first of three dedicated Gripen E test aircraft, in support of a planned 82-unit deal with Sweden and Switzerland. Here's a slide showing the general schedule for getting aircraft JAS 39-8 through -10 into the air.

os tipos da Saab andam aqui a ler o forum. Falou-se num caça cylon e não é que eles foram logo aproveitar a ideia?????

já agora, após a excitante noticia do corte das primeiras chapas de metal, aguardo com ansiadade a newsflash onde vão mostrar o primeiro apertamento de parafuso.