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[caixeiro]

Então o Anuncio do Primeiro ministro da noruega que eles comprariam 48 F-35 para substituir o F-16 ainda não foi formalizado????

Esse anuncio foi so anuncio para nao comprar nada, eles estao durinhos.


Abracos Elcio Caixeiro

[Dieneces]

Então o Anuncio do Primeiro ministro da noruega que eles comprariam 48 F-35 para substituir o F-16 ainda não foi formalizado????

Anúncio que comprariam...está nisso , Gaitero...

[soultrain]

Então o Anuncio do Primeiro ministro da noruega que eles comprariam 48 F-35 para substituir o F-16 ainda não foi formalizado????

Esse anuncio foi so anuncio para nao comprar nada, eles estao durinhos.


Abracos Elcio Caixeiro

Noruega, durinhos????? Quem me dera ser assim durinho...

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[usskelvin]

Quem ta com dinheiro pra comprar sonho mesmo são os Russos.

[Bourne]

Acho que os russos não estão com dinheiro para sonhar. Mas, de qualquer forma, sonhar não custa nada

[usskelvin]

Acho que os russos não estão com dinheiro para sonhar. Mas, de qualquer forma, sonhar não custa nada

Os indianos com seu PA velho ao preço de novo que o digam.

[Bourne]

Daí é outra estória.

[P44]

Esse anuncio foi so anuncio para nao comprar nada, eles estao durinhos.


Abracos Elcio Caixeiro

Noruega, durinhos????? Quem me dera ser assim durinho...

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^Noruega tem petroleo e gás natural em barda, e NÃO PERTENCE á UE

entretanto no seguimento da noticia de ontem a respeito dos HOLANDESES:

CPB Note: Employment Impact of the Participation in the JSF Programme


(Source: Dutch Centraal Plan Bureau; issued Feb. 23, 2009)


(Issued in Dutch only; unofficial translation by defense-aerospace.com)



The [Dutch] House of Commons has asked the Bureau for Economic Policy Analysis for a counter-evaluation of the report “Dutch participation to the JSF programme provides $16 billion and approximately 50,000 man-years employment” prepared by PricewaterhouseCoopers (PWC) for the Ministry of Economic Affairs.

This note is the counter-evaluation by the Dutch Centraal Plan Bureau (CPB).

The almost 50,000 man-years estimated in the PWC report relate to the cumulative employment over the complete period of the JSF programme, from 2001 to 2052.

On the basis of the data contained in the PWC report, the Bureau for Economic Policy Analysis evaluates JSF-related employment at approximately 200 persons on average per year over the period 2001-2015, and approximately 600 persons on average per year in the period 2015-2052.

In the first period, most of the work is by research workers; in the second period, the employment mostly focuses on the physical production of the JSF aircraft.

In addition, indirect employment, spin-offs and spillover work will occupy, on average, approximately 600 persons per year in the period 2015-2052.

Thus, the employment figures attributed by the PWC study to the JSF programme have probably been considerably over-estimated.

The first reason is that the report assumes that the productivity of the companies involved in the JSF programme will not improve between and 2052, at least for work on essential components.

The second reason is that the direct employment to the JSF programme in the report includes work in foreign establishments of Dutch multinational companies. As a consequence, JSF-related employment is also over-estimated at subcontractors in the Netherlands.

The total employment in the Netherlands will probably not increase because of the JSF programme. The reason is that, in the opinion of the Bureau for Economic Policy Analysis, structural employment is particularly determined by socio-economic factors such as demography, personal preferences for work, tax rates and the amount of social benefits.

The JSF programme will be subject to these socio-economic factors, and therefore will not, or only superficially, influence structural employment. It will, at most, only cause a shift of employment from one job to another.

However, even if total employment in the Netherlands does not increase because of the JSF programme, it can be nevertheless be attractive if it raises productivity through innovation.

The question is therefore whether spin-offs and spillover effects of the programme are greater when compared to the average of other projects in the industry. The PWC report only gives information on this impact as related to the JSF programme, and it therefore remains unknown whether this impact might be greater compared to that of other projects.

The PWC report also estimates the turnover of the JSF program. Turnover is however economically less interesting as an indicator because it is strongly influenced by semi-manufactured components bought in the Netherlands and by others that are imported.

For this reason, the turnover estimate cannot be usefully evaluated in this counter-evaluation.


Click here for the full document (22 pages in PDF format; in Dutch), on the CPB website.
http://www.cpb.nl/nl/pub/cpbreeksen/not ... otitie.pdf

[Sintra]

Então o Anuncio do Primeiro ministro da noruega que eles comprariam 48 F-35 para substituir o F-16 ainda não foi formalizado????

Exacto, os Noruegueses planeiam assinar o contrato de aquisição algures entre 2012/2014.

[P44]

US Air Force Gives Pentagon New F-22 Purchase Plan
27 February 2009



The top US Air Force general said he had put forward a fresh request for top-of-the-line F-22 fighter jets that would postpone an otherwise-imminent start to the shutdown of Lockheed Martin's production line.

Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Norton Schwartz said on Thursday that he had presented the revised acquisition plan to Defense Secretary Robert Gates this week.

He declined to elaborate on their discussion and suggested he did not yet know the fate of the radar-evading fighter, the most advanced in the US arsenal.

"Until he [Gates] renders a decision, I'd prefer to keep the content of that conversation between the [Air Force] secretary and myself, and Secretary Gates," Schwartz told reporters after speaking to an Air Force Association symposium in Orlando, Florida.

Lockheed Martin has said it plans to start phasing out the production line as early as next week unless President Barack Obama decides to buy more than the 183 F-22 Raptors now on order.

Schwartz said the Air Force's top acquisition priority remained replacing its aging KC-135 tanker fleet. Last year, the Pentagon cancelled a contract with Northrop Grumman, teamed with Europe's EADS, for 179 new tankers – a deal valued at $35bn – after US auditors upheld a protest filed by Boeing.

Air Force Secretary Thomas Donley, who joined Schwartz at the press briefing, said the timetable for re-running the tanker competition remained under review by the Defense Department.

If new bids are sought this spring, as projected by Gates, "we could potentially be in a position to to make a decision at the very end of the calendar year, more likely in the January time frame," said Donley. The White House said Thursday that it was keeping Donley in his job.

Schwartz said on 18 February that the air force had scaled back its most recent goal of acquiring a total of 381 F-22s. He said at the time he would not dispute Admiral Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who said late last year the air force was seeking about 60 more than the original 183 F-22s on order, or a total of about 243.

The final aircraft in the current F-22 order are scheduled to be delivered at the end of 2011.

At about $143m each, not including development costs, the F-22 has become the focus of a debate about hedging for large-scale wars versus fighting guerrillas in places such as Iraq and Afghanistan. The F-22 has not been used in combat.

Gates, President Barack Obama's sole holdover from the cabinet of former president George W Bush, has favoured instead buying the F-35 joint strike fighter, another Lockheed Martin fighter. The F-35, also designed to avoid radar detection, is being co-developed with eight other countries.

Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said this week that the administration would make its F-22 plans known when it releases full details of the fiscal 2010 budget, likely in April, not by 1 March as had been sought by Congress.

Some F-22 suppliers already had been notified that "we will begin shutdown activities on 1 March unless the President certifies that continued production of the F-22 is in the national interest," Sam Grizzle, a Lockheed spokesman, said earlier this month.

"If the decision on extending F-22 production is not made by 1 March, additional funds, already authorised and appropriated by Congress, will be necessary to keep the line open," Grizzle added this week in an email to Reuters.

By Jim Wolf, Reuters.

http://www.naval-technology.com/news/news50527.html

[luisdmrx]

Lockheed voa segundo F-35B STOVL

Protótipo do modelo de pouso e decolagem vertical inicia testes incluindo regimes de voo de altos ângulos de ataque

A Lockheed Martin decolou seu segundo exemplar do protótipo do programa F-35 Joint Strike Fighter denominado BF-2.
Realizado nas instalações de Fort Worth no estado do Texas em 25 de fevereiro o protótipo BF-2 do F-35 incluiu “manobras de ensaios de subsistemas e qualidades básicas de manobrabilidade e para checagem de instrumentação”, disse a assessoria da empresa americana.

Para operar em modo de voo convencional nos próximos meses o BF-2 será submetido atividades de ensaio incluindo regimes de voo de altos ângulos de ataque, teste de expansão do envelope de voo reabastecimento ar-ar e testes com armas, disse a Lockheed.
A aeronave irá ser trasladada para os testes nas instalações da marinha de NAS Patuxent River em Maryland no final do ano para mais ensaios de desenvolvimento.

“Cada aeronave que sair da linha de montagem será submetida a uma verificação objetiva e depois ser entregue aos clientes para dar início a capacidades operacionais no cronograma”, disse o vice-presidente executivo da Lockheed e gerente geral para o programa do F-35, Dan Crowley.

[soultrain]

Fresquinho:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RL30563.pdf

Orçamento do Obama para o Pentagono frequissimo:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/assets/fy ... efense.pdf

F/A-35 ou F-22? quem quiser ler e interpretar!? que diga.

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[Carlos Lima]

Perguntas/respostas sobre o F-35!!

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/ ... nges%20JSF

E aqui...
Analise sobre sua capacidade de combate...

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/ ... el=defense

Boa Leitura

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[Sintra]

[img]No Fixed Price for Joint Strike Fighter


(Source NRC International; dated March 3, 2009)



Dutch parliament’s standing committee for defence was on a working visit to the United States to take a peek at the plant where the Joint Strike Fighter is being built. This aircraft may replace the Dutch military’s current fighter jets.

The production halls of Air Force Plant 4 in Fort Worth, Texas are immense. The assembly line is more than a mile long. Fighter jets have been built here for more than 60 years. General Dynamics (one of the forerunners of Lockheed Martin) built F-16s here for the Dutch air force. Even these days three new Fighting Falcons come off the assembly line each month, says Richard Royer.

In the meantime, production of the successor to the F-16 has already started. Throughout the hall its components can be seen, painted in a striking fluorescent green primer. Towards the end of the line it is almost complete: the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF). One JSF per month will be built this year already, and that number is to increase rapidly in the coming years.

Testing programme

Critics say that it is much too early. While the assembly line has already started up in the plant hall, the testing programme for the F-35 at the adjoining airport has only just begun. A risky strategy, the US Government Accountability Office (GAO) warned last year. If it should emerge that the JSF does not meet the requirements, hundreds of aircraft may have already been built.

The programme is already struggling with many problems, the GAO pointed out. Drafts are not yet ready. The construction of test aircraft is lagging behind schedule. The costs of the programme have increased drastically. As a result the price of the JSF is rising steadily.

Lockheed executive vice-president Tom Burbage, general manager of the JSF programme, is familiar with the criticism. “We could have waited until the testing programme was entirely completed before starting production. That indeed would have been entirely without risk. But also much more expensive.’’

Blank check

But it is doubtful whether this message has gotten through to the parliament’s standing committee for defence, which visited Fort Worth on Friday. Tom Burbage looks tired. “We have had to answer questions from your members of parliament since eight this morning.”

The visit to Fort Worth is the final leg of a working visit of just over a week entirely dedicated to the JSF. In Washington the members of parliament spoke with representatives from the Pentagon, but also with the GAO and with independent experts, some of whom are outspoken critics of the JSF programme.

Although the government will not make a final decision on the JSF until 2010, parliament does have to make a decision by the end of April on purchasing two test aircraft. One of the governing parties, the Labour party (PvdA), still has major reservations. And defence spokesperson Joël Voordewind of the orthodox Christian party (ChristenUnie) proposed last week that just one test aircraft be purchased this year. “Deciding now means that we would be writing a blank check,” Voordewind said in Washington.

Fixed price

Three weeks ago the parliamentary committee visited Lockheed Martin’s only remaining competitor: Swedish aircraft manufacturer Saab. During that visit the Swedes said that they could deliver 85 Gripen fighter jets for a guaranteed price of 4.8 billion euros, just over a billion less than the defence department’s allotted budget for the replacement of the F-16. The parliamentary committee subsequently asked deputy minister Jack de Vries to ask Lockheed Martin for a fixed price as well.

But it becomes clear in Fort Worth on Friday that the Americans cannot yet grant parliament’s request at the moment. Burbage says there are still too many uncertainties in the programme: “We ourselves don’t know what the exact price will be.” Burbage says it will not be until 2012 that Lockheed will agree with the Pentagon on a fixed price – and then only for the delivery of the series of JSFs that are ordered in that year.(Emphasis added—Ed.) Even the price of the two test aircraft on which the Netherlands must decide is not yet fixed.

Learning curve

Burbage draws a diagram on the whiteboard of the meeting room. The price of an aircraft goes through a so-called ‘learning curve,’ he explains. The first planes are expensive, but the price falls once the production line is up and running. Burbage says that the price curve of the JSF is going according to expectations. And although the margin of error in the prediction is now still quite large, uncertainty is quickly diminishing as more JSFs are built. “You don’t have a thing to worry about.”

But just like parliament, the Dutch defence ministry also wants more certainty about the price of the JSF. At the moment Lockheed Martin is working on a proposal for a consortium buy, whereby all the partners in the JSF project would have to place an order at once for a total of 335 aircraft – 38 of which on the part of the Netherlands. Burbage expects that it will be clear in April of next year whether everyone will participate.

CU member of parliament Voordewind is positively inclined towards the consortium buy. “For the final decision we will know what we are getting into.”

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http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... h-mps.html

[soultrain]

Mas não eram para custar 50M USD, montados no Brasil...?rs rs

Percebem agora porque disse que o lobby andava solto na Europa do Norte?