Mas o 1 me parece que já bastaria, o que sobrasse da Ucrânia que se juntasse com OTAN, EU, o que quisesse, não faria diferença alguma, penso eu. Aliás, a própria Criméia poderia ser aceita como república independente.
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IMHO (e todos aqui sabem que não sou expert em Alta Estratégia), o Objetivo número 1 (estabelecer um corredor seguro por terra entre Rússia e Criméia, garantindo-lhe também o suprimento de água, e não necessariamente por posse territorial mas apenas pela garantia de pequenas repúblicas aliadas que seriam os novos "amortecedores"; estas estariam obrigadas à Rússia por dependerem dela para sua própria existência) está provavelmente prestes a ser atingido, basta um último e decisivo empurrão e Mariupol cai; o 2 me parece opcional (derrubar o governo ao tomar Kiev; isto poderia ser facilitado ao ocupar e obliterar o Dniepr a montante (a jusante já parece estar sob controle), cortando talvez a melhor rota de suprimentos (e fuga dos figurões) da cidade.
Mas o 1 me parece que já bastaria, o que sobrasse da Ucrânia que se juntasse com OTAN, EU, o que quisesse, não faria diferença alguma, penso eu. Aliás, a própria Criméia poderia ser aceita como república independente.
Mas o 1 me parece que já bastaria, o que sobrasse da Ucrânia que se juntasse com OTAN, EU, o que quisesse, não faria diferença alguma, penso eu. Aliás, a própria Criméia poderia ser aceita como república independente.
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March 12, 2022
2:04 PM GMT-3
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France says Putin shows no readiness to end Ukraine war as fighting rages
By Pavel Polityuk and Natalia Zinets
LVIV, Ukraine, March 12 (Reuters) - Fighting raged near Kyiv on Saturday and heavy shelling in other areas threatened new attempts to evacuate trapped civilians as France said Russian President Vladimir Putin showed no readiness to end the war in Ukraine.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said Moscow was sending in new troops after Ukrainian forces put 31 of Russia's battalion tactical groups out of action in what he called Russia's largest army losses in decades. It was not possible to verify his statements.
He also said about 1,300 Ukrainian troops had been killed so far and urged the West to get more involved in peace negotiations. The president suggested Russian forces would face a fight to the death if they sought to enter the capital.
"If they decide to carpet bomb (Kyiv), and simply erase the history of this region, the history of the Kyivan Rus, the history of Europe, and destroy all of us, then they will enter Kyiv. If that's their goal, let them come in, but they will have to live on this land by themselves," he told a news conference.
Zelenskiy discussed the war with Chancellor Olaf Scholz and President Emmanuel Macron, and the German and French leaders then spoke to Putin by phone and urged the Russian leader to order an immediate ceasefire.
A Kremlin statement on the 75-minute call made no mention of a ceasefire and a French presidency official said: "We did not detect a willingness on Putin's part to end the war".
Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov accused the United States of escalating tensions and said the situation had been complicated by convoys of Western arms shipments to Ukraine that Russian forces considered "legitimate targets".
In comments reported by the Tass news agency, Ryabkov made no specific threat, but any attack on such convoys before they reached Ukraine would risk widening the war.
Responding to Zelenskiy's call for the West to be more involved in peace negotiations, a U.S. State Department spokesperson said: "If there are diplomatic steps that we can take that the Ukrainian government believes would be helpful, we're prepared to take them."
HUMANITARIAN CORRIDORS
Air raid sirens blared across most Ukrainian cities on Saturday morning urging people to seek shelters, local media reported.
Russian rocket attacks destroyed a Ukrainian airbase and hit an ammunition depot near the town of Vasylkiv in the Kyiv region on Saturday morning, Interfax Ukraine quoted Vasylkiv Mayor Natalia Balasynovych as saying.
The exhausted-looking governor of Chernihiv, around 150 km (100 miles) northeast of Kyiv, gave a video update in front of the ruins of the city's Ukraine Hotel, which he said had been hit.
"There is no such hotel any more," Viacheslav Chaus said, wiping tears from his eyes. "But Ukraine itself still exists, and it will prevail."
Britain's defence ministry said fighting northwest of the capital continued, with the bulk of Russian ground forces 25 km (16 miles) from the centre of Kyiv, which it has said Russia could attack within days.
Kharkiv, Chernihiv, Sumy and Mariupol remained encircled under heavy Russian shelling, it said.
Putin launched the invasion on Feb. 24 in an operation that has been almost universally condemned around the world and that has drawn tough Western sanctions on Russia.
The Russian bombardment has trapped thousands of people in besieged cities and sent 2.5 million Ukrainians fleeing to neighbouring countries. Zelenskiy said the conflict meant some small Ukrainian towns no longer existed.
Moscow has denied targeting civilians in what it calls a special operation to demilitarise Ukraine and unseat leaders it refers to as neo-Nazis. It has not responded to Ukrainian challenges to provide evidence.
Ukrainian officials had planned to use humanitarian corridors from Mariupol as well as towns and villages in the regions of Kyiv, Sumy and some other areas on Saturday.
The governor of the Kyiv region, Oleksiy Kuleba, said fighting and threats of Russian air attacks were continuing on Saturday morning though some evacuations were proceeding.
The Donetsk region's governor said constant shelling was complicating bringing aid into the southern city of Mariupol.
"There are reports of looting and violent confrontations among civilians over what little basic supplies remain in the city," the U.N.'s Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs said.
"Medicines for life-threatening illnesses are quickly running out, hospitals are only partially functioning, and the food and water are in short supply."
MAKESHIFT BURIALS
People were boiling ground water for drinking, using wood to cook food and burying dead bodies near where they lay, a staff member for Medecins Sans Frontieres (Doctors without Borders) in Mariupol said.
"We saw people who died because of lack of medication," he said, adding that many people had also been wounded or killed. "Neighbours just dig a hole in the ground and put the dead bodies inside."
At least 1,582 civilians in Mariupol have been killed as a result of Russian shelling and a 12-day blockade, the city council said on Friday. It was not possible to verify casualty figures.
Moscow has previously blamed Kyiv for failed evacuations.
Ukraine has accused Russian forces of kidnapping the mayor of the southern city of Melitopol, which Russia controls.
Zelenskiy called on Saturday for his release and more than 2,000 residents protested outside the city administration building to demand the release of mayor's release, Kyrylo Tymoshenko, deputy head of the president's office, said.
Russia has not commented on the fate of Fedorov.
Efforts to isolate Russia economically have stepped up, with the United States imposing new sanctions on senior Kremlin officials and Russian oligarchs on Friday.
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said the EU would on Saturday suspend Moscow's privileged trade and economic treatment, crack down on its use of crypto-assets, and ban the import of iron and steel goods from Russia, as well as the export of luxury goods in the other direction. read more
Reporting by Reuters bureaus Writing by Michael Perry, Philippa Fletcher and Timothy Heritage Editing by William Mallard and Frances Kerry
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/fi ... 022-03-12/
2:04 PM GMT-3
Last Updated 9 min ago
France says Putin shows no readiness to end Ukraine war as fighting rages
By Pavel Polityuk and Natalia Zinets
LVIV, Ukraine, March 12 (Reuters) - Fighting raged near Kyiv on Saturday and heavy shelling in other areas threatened new attempts to evacuate trapped civilians as France said Russian President Vladimir Putin showed no readiness to end the war in Ukraine.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said Moscow was sending in new troops after Ukrainian forces put 31 of Russia's battalion tactical groups out of action in what he called Russia's largest army losses in decades. It was not possible to verify his statements.
He also said about 1,300 Ukrainian troops had been killed so far and urged the West to get more involved in peace negotiations. The president suggested Russian forces would face a fight to the death if they sought to enter the capital.
"If they decide to carpet bomb (Kyiv), and simply erase the history of this region, the history of the Kyivan Rus, the history of Europe, and destroy all of us, then they will enter Kyiv. If that's their goal, let them come in, but they will have to live on this land by themselves," he told a news conference.
Zelenskiy discussed the war with Chancellor Olaf Scholz and President Emmanuel Macron, and the German and French leaders then spoke to Putin by phone and urged the Russian leader to order an immediate ceasefire.
A Kremlin statement on the 75-minute call made no mention of a ceasefire and a French presidency official said: "We did not detect a willingness on Putin's part to end the war".
Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov accused the United States of escalating tensions and said the situation had been complicated by convoys of Western arms shipments to Ukraine that Russian forces considered "legitimate targets".
In comments reported by the Tass news agency, Ryabkov made no specific threat, but any attack on such convoys before they reached Ukraine would risk widening the war.
Responding to Zelenskiy's call for the West to be more involved in peace negotiations, a U.S. State Department spokesperson said: "If there are diplomatic steps that we can take that the Ukrainian government believes would be helpful, we're prepared to take them."
HUMANITARIAN CORRIDORS
Air raid sirens blared across most Ukrainian cities on Saturday morning urging people to seek shelters, local media reported.
Russian rocket attacks destroyed a Ukrainian airbase and hit an ammunition depot near the town of Vasylkiv in the Kyiv region on Saturday morning, Interfax Ukraine quoted Vasylkiv Mayor Natalia Balasynovych as saying.
The exhausted-looking governor of Chernihiv, around 150 km (100 miles) northeast of Kyiv, gave a video update in front of the ruins of the city's Ukraine Hotel, which he said had been hit.
"There is no such hotel any more," Viacheslav Chaus said, wiping tears from his eyes. "But Ukraine itself still exists, and it will prevail."
Britain's defence ministry said fighting northwest of the capital continued, with the bulk of Russian ground forces 25 km (16 miles) from the centre of Kyiv, which it has said Russia could attack within days.
Kharkiv, Chernihiv, Sumy and Mariupol remained encircled under heavy Russian shelling, it said.
Putin launched the invasion on Feb. 24 in an operation that has been almost universally condemned around the world and that has drawn tough Western sanctions on Russia.
The Russian bombardment has trapped thousands of people in besieged cities and sent 2.5 million Ukrainians fleeing to neighbouring countries. Zelenskiy said the conflict meant some small Ukrainian towns no longer existed.
Moscow has denied targeting civilians in what it calls a special operation to demilitarise Ukraine and unseat leaders it refers to as neo-Nazis. It has not responded to Ukrainian challenges to provide evidence.
Ukrainian officials had planned to use humanitarian corridors from Mariupol as well as towns and villages in the regions of Kyiv, Sumy and some other areas on Saturday.
The governor of the Kyiv region, Oleksiy Kuleba, said fighting and threats of Russian air attacks were continuing on Saturday morning though some evacuations were proceeding.
The Donetsk region's governor said constant shelling was complicating bringing aid into the southern city of Mariupol.
"There are reports of looting and violent confrontations among civilians over what little basic supplies remain in the city," the U.N.'s Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs said.
"Medicines for life-threatening illnesses are quickly running out, hospitals are only partially functioning, and the food and water are in short supply."
MAKESHIFT BURIALS
People were boiling ground water for drinking, using wood to cook food and burying dead bodies near where they lay, a staff member for Medecins Sans Frontieres (Doctors without Borders) in Mariupol said.
"We saw people who died because of lack of medication," he said, adding that many people had also been wounded or killed. "Neighbours just dig a hole in the ground and put the dead bodies inside."
At least 1,582 civilians in Mariupol have been killed as a result of Russian shelling and a 12-day blockade, the city council said on Friday. It was not possible to verify casualty figures.
Moscow has previously blamed Kyiv for failed evacuations.
Ukraine has accused Russian forces of kidnapping the mayor of the southern city of Melitopol, which Russia controls.
Zelenskiy called on Saturday for his release and more than 2,000 residents protested outside the city administration building to demand the release of mayor's release, Kyrylo Tymoshenko, deputy head of the president's office, said.
Russia has not commented on the fate of Fedorov.
Efforts to isolate Russia economically have stepped up, with the United States imposing new sanctions on senior Kremlin officials and Russian oligarchs on Friday.
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said the EU would on Saturday suspend Moscow's privileged trade and economic treatment, crack down on its use of crypto-assets, and ban the import of iron and steel goods from Russia, as well as the export of luxury goods in the other direction. read more
Reporting by Reuters bureaus Writing by Michael Perry, Philippa Fletcher and Timothy Heritage Editing by William Mallard and Frances Kerry
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/fi ... 022-03-12/
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Sei lá, se querem SEGURANÇA tanto assim, me parece que o melhor seria estocar as armas onde jamais seriam tocadas pelos Russos, ou seja, EM TANCOS!!!
Rússia ameaça atacar carregamentos de armas ocidentais
12 mar, 2022 - 12:35 • Lusa
"A entrega de armas que estão a organizar a partir de vários países não é apenas um movimento perigoso, é um ato que torna os comboios respetivos em alvos legítimos”, afirmou o vice-ministro russo dos Negócios Estrangeiros.
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Estacionam viaturas militares entre casas e escolas e depois quem as destrói é que é BANDIDO?
Só eu que estou achando os CHECHENOS melhor equipados que os próprios Russos? Era melhor o Putin ir dando mais uma autonomiazinha para a Chechênia, nunca se sabe...
Só eu que estou achando os CHECHENOS melhor equipados que os próprios Russos? Era melhor o Putin ir dando mais uma autonomiazinha para a Chechênia, nunca se sabe...
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Boa: os europeus ficam esculachando o poder militar da Rússia. Mas estão correndo para fazer abrigos antibombas.
https://www.estadao.com.br/internaciona ... da-europa/
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Está rolando em alguns grupos , que caiu um drone ao poucos KM da sede do governo da Croácia , amanhã vão divulgar pra saber de quem é o aparelho
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Mas eu postei isso ONTEM, com link, fotos, nomes e tudo!!!
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O EB já treina isso há um bom tempo utilizando M114 e o FT-100, deve melhorar bastante agora com o M109A5 - ao que parece, todos irão para padrão Plus - e o Nauru 100C, além do futuro M198. Falta agora o EB adquirir munições guiadas, tanto GPS quanto a Laser, além de munições convencionais melhores que as M107, que são uma porcaria. Fornecedor é o que mais tem, Norinco, IMI...Brasileiro escreveu: ↑Sáb Mar 12, 2022 12:20 pm Ataques de precisão com munição de artilharia guiada Krasnopol. Parece ser o principal meio de ataque cirúrgico operado pela Rússia. Um drone como o Orlan-10 reconhece o alvo e direciona o laser de guiamento para a munição. Uma solução que deveria ser olhada de perto pelo EB.
Ataque com drone suicida Kub. Paree ser perfeito para "limpeza" de terraços.
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Os Chechenos, assim como os Kurdos, são tropas formidáveis de combate. Aliás, de todas as tropas "independentes", como Kurdos, Hezbollah, Hamas e entre outros, eu penso que os Chechenos são os mais brabos em combate. Basicamente não possuem Infantaria Convencional, são tropas de Operações Especiais apoiadas por Artilharia Leve - eles consideram BM-21 artilharia leve - e Drones.Túlio escreveu: ↑Sáb Mar 12, 2022 4:57 pmEstacionam viaturas militares entre casas e escolas e depois quem as destrói é que é BANDIDO?
Só eu que estou achando os CHECHENOS melhor equipados que os próprios Russos? Era melhor o Putin ir dando mais uma autonomiazinha para a Chechênia, nunca se sabe...
Operam em pequenas células e estão infiltrados em linhas entre Ivano-Frankivsk e Lutsk, apreenderam Javalins e NLAW que estariam indo para Mykolaev, com vídeos comprovando isso. Os Ucranianos deveriam estar utilizando seus OpEsp, que também são muito capacitados, para caçar esses Chechenos.
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Informações adicionais:
O 35º CAA está composto por 3 Divisões
O 36º CAA, por 4 Brigadas+1 Regimento
2nd GCAA está sendo composto por 2 Divisões
Já o 41º CAA, que veio do Distrito Central, está congregando unidades do Distrito Sul e Oeste. Dependendo da fonte, está com entre 6 e 16 Brigadas, fora os regimentos em separado.
Editado pela última vez por knigh7 em Sáb Mar 12, 2022 7:26 pm, em um total de 3 vezes.
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Outra fonte:
sdsTu-141 "Strizh" Missile-Like Drone From The War In Ukraine Looks To Have Crashed In Croatia (Updated)
The mysterious craft that slammed into Croatia's capital appears to be a Soviet-era jet-powered drone that only Ukraine operates.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/4 ... in-croatia