Marinha da África do Sul

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The South African Navy has commissioned the second U209-class submarine, seen here during its sea trials. (TKMS photo)

South African Navy Commissions Charlotte Maxeke


(Source: ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems; issued March 14, 2007)

EMDEN/HAMBURG/KIEL, Germany --- On March 14, 2007, the South African Navy commissioned the submarine “Charlotte Maxeke” at Emden-based Nordseewerke GmbH (NSWE), a company of ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems AG (TKMS). This submarine is an ultra-modern submarine of the German 209/1400mod Class. During commissioning ceremony the boat which was christened as S102 on May 4, 2005, got the new name “Charlotte Maxeke.”

The boat is the second of a total of three submarines which the South African government ordered from the German Submarine Consortium in 2000. The consortium consists of Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH (HDW), Nordseewerke GmbH and MAN Ferrostaal AG.

The significance of this day for South Africa and its Navy was underlined by the attendance of the Deputy of the South African Secretary of Defence, Mluleki George, the Commander in Chief of the South African Navy, Vice-Admiral Johannes Mudimu, the South African Ambassador Moses Chikane, and the Chairman of the South African Procurement Agency ARMSCOR, Dr. Popo Molefe.

The delivery of these three submarines by the German Submarine Consortium is part of an extensive program to modernise the South African Navy. The submarines are the latest version of the conventional 209 Class, which has been successfully exported by the German consortium for many years. 63 of these submarines are currently in deployment worldwide on four continents, making this the most successful diesel-electric driven submarine class in the world. In addition to the construction and delivery of submarines the Consortium's scope of delivery also includes training, logistical support and simulation technology.

The boat has a displacement of 1,450 tons, is 62 meters long and is made for cruising with a permanent crew of 30. Due to state-of-the art sensors and an integrated command and weapon control system the submarine is optimally suited for future reconnaissance and surveillance missions.

On March 16, 2007, the “Charlotte Maxeke” will leave Emden. During its long journey to its future home base the boat will be escorted by the fleet supply ship “SAS Drakensberg”. In the last week of April the submarine is expected to arrive at its home base port – the Navy base Simonstown in South Africa.


ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems AG, with its head office in Hamburg, Germany, is part of ThyssenKrupp Technologies AG within the ThyssenKrupp Group. Since 2005 it has been the umbrella organisation for eight European shipyards – Blohm + Voss, Blohm + Voss Repair, HDW-Gaarden, Hellenic Shipyards, Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft, Kockums, Nobiskrug, Nordseewerke – and various marine engineering companies. With its technological competence, extensive portfolio and continuous innovations the corporate group, employing around 8,800 staff, is one of the leading systems houses in European shipbuilding.

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Fonte:
DAILY COLLECTION OF MARITIME PRESS CLIPPINGS 2007 – 237

South Africa Considers Buying Landing Ships

Three firms will likely compete if the government approves the South African National Defense Force’s proposal to buy
one or more strategic support ships with an extended helicopter landing platform.
One potential bidder, France’s DCNS (formerly Amaris), recently brought its landing helicopter dock (LHD) FS Tonnerre
(Thunder) to Cape Town on its maiden voyage via Canada and Brazil. The Tonnerre’s sister ship, FS Mistral, was used
last year to evacuate foreigners during the crisis in Lebanon.

The other firms with “a real chance” to win the contract are Spain’s Navantia and Germany’s ThyssenKrupp Marine
Systems (TKMS), which co-built South Africa’s four recently commissioned frigates, said Helmoed-Römer Heitman, a
South African military analyst.
Heitman has researched this possible acquisition for members of the South African Parliament’s committee on defense.
The 27,000-ton Spanish contender, currently under construction, is the “most useful but also the most expensive ship,”
Heitman said. “Navantia can draw on the experience of having built an LPD [landing platform dock] and a light aircraft
carrier under license and can also draw on the experience of their substantial Marine Corps.”
He said the Tonnerre is “useful but a bit short of vehicle space for operations in African conditions. The French base
their design on two generations of LPDs and aircraft carriers as well as considerable experience of expeditionary
operations in recent times.”
TKMS’ proposal for a smaller vessel based on existing cargo ships is marginal for troops and helicopters and too small
regarding vehicles, he said.

Other contenders include the Netherlands’ Royal Schelde and landing ship tanks from Singapore or Russia.
The cost of the proposed project is yet to be determined. The French LHD project costs some $4 billion, and though
nobody has confirmed what the selling price to South Africa will be, it is expected to be about $666 million per ship.
The price will apparently be determined by the number of ships ordered. Heitman said it is envisioned that South
Africa will buy one and the Defense Force another one, to be maintained by the Navy.
South Africa, which has the only noteworthy Navy south of the Sahara, is looking forward to bigger roles in
international peacekeeping, peace support and disaster relief operations, such as the one that followed the flooding in
Mozambique in 2000. Long distances make sealift more practical than airlift.
The African Union wants to have five regional rapid deployment forces ready for use in 2010, and South Africa is the
leading nation to compile the 6,000- to 10,000-strong force in the Southern African Development Community.
Defense Force senior officers who participated in discussions aboard Tonnerre said the continent’s unpredictability and
lack of infrastructure are the two most important reasons that the military started looking at a strategic support ship.
The Tonnerre can carry 16 helicopters and 100 armored personnel carriers. It has a 100-bed hospital in the event of a
mass evacuation or disaster.
While the ship was docked in Cape Town, the Army tested the transport of some of its vehicles to the ship without any
problems. The Air Force landed an Oryx medium transport helicopter, which is similar to a Puma, on one deck and the
helicopter was pulled into a hangar without even removing the rotor blades.
Heitman said a combined helicopter force consisting of Oryx, Rooivalk attack helicopters and the AgustaWestland A109
light helicopter might be stationed aboard the proposed ship.
The Tonnere’s skipper, Capt. Philippe Hello, praised the adaptability of the ship, which can carry some 400 soldiers,
helicopters and amphibious boats to land vehicles and forces.
The ship can be self-sufficient for up to 60 days. Hello said the ship’s 6-meter draft allows it access to the shallow or
blocked harbors of many African countries. “Our biggest advantage is that we have two ships fitting the South African
requirement operational, while our contenders have only designs,” Hello said. “The Mistral has already proved her
qualities on her first ever mission [in Lebanon]. The ships were specifically designed for far- away deployments and
humani- tarian aid.”
Army officers aboard the ship for an extremely stormy trip around Cape Point from Simon’s Town to Cape Town said
the plan is to use one of its infantry battalions in Cape Town to become the prime maritime battalion; another one
farther away in the Western Cape would function as the secondary one; and the parachute battalion in Bloemfontein
would be the third choice depending on the nature of the mission. Source : defensenews

[Rui Elias Maltez]

Entretanto, em Portugal, ainda ninguém sabe sequer que tipo de NavPol será.

Entretanto e até à entrega do producto, acho que a África do Sul precisará de pelo menos 2 navios para defesa aérea. Não estou a imaginar as Amatola a garantir uma defesa capaz a esse nível.

É que se mesmo num quadro africano, não há país que se lhe compare ao nível de marinha, não esquecer o facto de Angola ter um Força Aérea forte.

É certo que ambos estão do mesmo lado geo-estratégico na África Austral, mas as coisas em África são voláteis, e tudo pode mudar em meses.

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The other firms with “a real chance” to win the contract are Spain’s Navantia and Germany’s ThyssenKrupp Marine
Systems (TKMS),

uma ideia maluca...será que da "proposta" Alemã á África do Sul poderá sair o "nosso" Navpol?????

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Entretanto, em Portugal, ainda ninguém sabe sequer que tipo de NavPol será.

Entretanto e até à entrega do producto, acho que a África do Sul precisará de pelo menos 2 navios para defesa aérea. Não estou a imaginar as Amatola a garantir uma defesa capaz a esse nível.

será?

Armament: • 1 × 76 mm Oto Breda gun,
• 2 × 35 mm LIW (Denel) 35DPG dual purpose twin-barreled guns,
• 2 × 20 mm Oerlikon Mk1 cannon,
• 8 × MBDA MM 40 Exocet Block 2 surface-to-surface missiles (mounted in 2 × 4-cell launchers),
• 16 × Umkhonto surface-to-air missiles (mounted in 2 × 8-cell vertical launchers).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAS_Amatola_(F145)

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Umkhonto (Zulu: spear) is a South African, vertical launch (VLS) surface-to-air missile (SAM) manufactured by Denel Aerospace Systems (formerly known as Kentron) available in infrared homing (Umkhonto-IR) and radar homing version (Umkhonto-R).

It is used by the South African, Swedish and Finnish navies.

General characteristics
Engine
Launch mass 130 kg
Length 3.32 m
Diameter 180 mm
Wingspan 500 mm
Speed 800 m/s, roughly Mach 2.5
Range 12 km
Flying altitude 10 km
Warhead 23 kg
Guidance all-aspect infra-red, command update fire and forget
Launch platform 8-cell (naval version) or 4-cell truck mounted land version


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_missile

[Rui Elias Maltez]

veremos, veremos...

O que mais interessa não é o VLS, nem os mísseis, mas o radar para assinalar os alvos.

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Boa tarde!

Acho que vale a pena ver em detalhe a proposta da Germany’s ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS). Uma boa escolha para a Marinha da África do Sul e também para a Marinha Portuguesa...

Ver:
http://www.decisionsupport5.co.za/downl ... tation.pdf

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Boa tarde!

Acho que vale a pena ver em detalhe a proposta da Germany’s ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS). Uma boa escolha para a Marinha da África do Sul e também para a Marinha Portuguesa...

Ver:
http://www.decisionsupport5.co.za/downl ... tation.pdf

pois , é que o projecto para o Nosso Navpol será Alemão (contrapartida pela aquisição dos U209PN/ U-214), daí....

Obrigado pelo PDF, colega ACF

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News24
Air force, navy 'just for show'
2010-03-04 08:53


Pieter du Toit

Cape Town - The expensive Gripen fighter jets, frigates and submarines which cost South African taxpayers billions of rands will mainly be on the ground and in port over the next three years, because there's no money to operate them.

The DA has called this a disgrace, while the department of defence's excuse is that its budget is hopelessly inadequate.

According to the department's strategic plan for the next three years, which was submitted to Parliament on Wednesday, their budgeting allows for the following:
- That the Gripens will spend 550 hours in flight in the current financial year, after which this will be scaled down to 250 flight hours per year for the next two years; and
- That the navy's 18 ships will have 10 000 hours at sea in 2011-2012 and 9 000 hours at sea per year in 2012 and 2013.

Operational capabilities

DA MP David Maynier said at a meeting between the parliamentary portfolio committee for defence and the department that it's clear "the defence force is being stripped of its operational capabilities".

"Look at maritime defence: Taking into account what we have at our disposal and the hours at sea which have been budgeted for, the navy's ships will spend 23 days at sea and 328 days in port. Perhaps eight ships - including the frigates at the submarines - would be more realistic: That would mean they'd spend 55 days at sea and 299 in port.

"Concerning the air force: We have 11 Gripens and 550 flight hours available this year, which means they are flying less than half of the hours required to comply with Nato (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation) standards. Most of these hours will be used during the 2010 World Cup, and between July and the end of the financial year, these fighter jets will be standing in their hangars," he said.

"It gets worse in the following years: Once all 26 Gripens have been delivered, they'll spend an average of 9.6 hours in flight per year."

Helmoed-Römer Heitman, a defence expert, described this budget as ludicrous and said if this is the way the navy and air force are run, the defence force might as well shut its doors.

According to him, Nato requires that fighter pilots log 20 flight hours per month (240 flight hours per year per fighter pilot, compared to the air force's budget of 550 flight hours) to remain operationally functional.

Bought for show

"According to these standards our air force is only barely going to be able to keep two fighter pilots in business.

"As far as our navy is concerned, it is now clear that the frigates and submarines were only bought for show."

Thabang Makwetla, deputy minister of defence, said it isn't the department's fault and that the problem lies with the inadequate defence budget.

According to Professor Renfrew Christie from the University of the Western Cape, South Africa is currently spending about 1.2% of its gross domestic product (GDP) on defence, compared to 4.5% in 1989.

The World Bank recommends that a functional defence force should be allocated no less than 2% of the GDP.

- Die Burger

http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthAfri ... t_for_show#

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História

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