Submarinos modernos

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As Tipo 209 vão ser descomissionadas com a possível chegada das Scorpenne?

[Lord Nauta]

As Tipo 209 vão ser descomissionadas com a possível chegada das Scorpenne?

As classes Tupi/Tikuna vão operar simultaneamente com a classe Riachuelo por alguns anos. Existem no momento estudos para modernização, por exemplo, da propulsão dos referidos navios.

Sds

Lord Nauta

[irlan]

Já houve a adaptação para o uso do Blackshark?
São da década de 90 correto?

[Lord Nauta]

Já houve a adaptação para o uso do Blackshark?
São da década de 90 correto?

O armamento das classe Tupi/Tikuna e o torpedo MK. 48 ADCAP.


SSK's da MB: - Informação referente aos anos em que entraram em serviço:

Tupi - 1989
Tamoio - 1994
Timbira - 1996
Tapajó - 1999
Tikuna - 2005


AD SUMUS


Maia

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Future Submarine Program
(Source: Prime Minister of Australia; issued April 26, 2016)

The DCNS design that Australia has selected for its future fleet of 12 submarines is a diesel-electric variant of the Barracuda nuclear-powered attack submarine that the company is building for the French navy. (DCNS image)

The Turnbull Government today announces that the next generation of submarines for Australia will be constructed at the Adelaide shipyard, securing thousands of jobs and ensuring the project will play a key part in the transition of our economy.

DCNS of France has been selected as our preferred international partner for the design of the 12 Future Submarines, subject to further discussions on commercial matters.

Along with our recent naval shipbuilding announcements, the commitment to an Australian build will create a sustainable Australian naval shipbuilding industry and provide the certainty that industry requires to invest in innovation and technology and grow its workforce.

The Future Submarine project is the largest and most complex defence acquisition Australia has ever undertaken. It will be a vital part of our Defence capability well into the middle of this century.

This $50 billion investment will directly sustain around 1,100 Australian jobs and a further 1,700 Australian jobs through the supply chain.

Today’s announcement follows the comprehensive Competitive Evaluation Process (CEP) involving DCNS, TKMS of Germany and the Government of Japan. Each bidder submitted very high quality proposals and the Australian Government takes this opportunity to thank both TKMS and the Government of Japan for their ongoing commitment to Australia and their participation in the process.

The CEP has provided the Government with the detailed information required to select DCNS as the most suitable international partner to develop a regionally-superior future submarine to meet our unique national security requirements, as detailed in the 2016 Defence White Paper.

This rigorous and independent process was led by Head of the Future Submarine Program, Rear Admiral Greg Sammut AM CSC, and General Manager Submarines, Rear Admiral Stephen Johnson USN (retired), who was previously in charge of the program to replace the Ohio Class ballistic missile submarines.

The process was overseen by an independent Expert Advisory Panel, chaired by former Secretary of the United States Navy, Professor Donald Winter. It was peer reviewed by Vice Admiral Paul Sullivan USN (retired) and Rear Admiral Thomas Eccles USN (retired).


DCNS video

This decision was driven by DCNS’s ability to best meet all of our unique capability requirements. These included superior sensor performance and stealth characteristics, as well as range and endurance similar to the Collins Class submarine. The Government’s considerations also included cost, schedule, program execution, through-life support and Australian industry involvement.

Subject to discussions on commercial matters, the design of the Future Submarine with DCNS will begin this year.

The Turnbull Government is also conducting a strategic review of the workforce, skills and infrastructure needs to deliver this key capability as part of its Naval Shipbuilding Plan, to be released this year. The Plan will bring together the requirements for the Future Submarine program, along with the more than $35 billion Future Frigate program and the more than $3 billion Offshore Patrol Vessel program, as part of the broader continuous naval shipbuilding philosophy to which the Government is committed.

The Turnbull Government will maximise Australian industry involvement in the program and will work closely with DCNS to identify opportunities for local businesses to integrate into the supply chain.

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Australian Government Selects DCNS for the SEA 1000 Future Submarine Program
(Source: DCNS; issued April 26, 2016)

The Australian Government has selected DCNS as its preferred international partner for the design of 12 Future submarines for the Royal Australian Navy.

The announcement was made by the Australian Prime Minister the Hon. Malcolm Turnbull, the Minister for Defence, Senator the Hon. Marise Payne, The Minister for Industry, Innovation and Science, the Hon. Christopher Pyne and The Chief of Navy, Vice Admiral Tim Barrett.

The Australian Government stated: “The decision was driven by DCNS’s ability to best meet all of the Australian Government’s requirements. These included superior sensor performance and stealth characteristics, as well as range and endurance similar to the Collins Class submarine. The Government’s considerations also included cost, schedule, program execution, through-life support and Australian industry involvement.”

“This success has been made possible thanks to the strong teamwork between the French Authorities, DCNS and our industrial partners,” said DCNS Chairman and CEO, Mr Herve Guillou.

“France and Australia have been allies for more than 100 years and we look forward to further strengthening this time honoured relationship and honouring the trust the Australian Commonwealth Government is placing in us for this ground breaking project,” Mr Guillou said.

Subject to discussions on commercial matters, the design of the Future Submarine with DCNS will begin this year.


DCNS designs and builds submarines and surface combatants, develops associated systems and infrastructure, and offers a full range of services to naval bases and shipyards. The Group has also expanded its focus into marine renewable energy. The DCNS Group generates annual revenues of €3.04 billion and employs 12,953 people (2015 data).

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Future Submarine Announcement
(Source: Royal Australian Navy; issued April 26, 2016)

The Prime Minister announced today in Adelaide, that the next generation of 12 submarines will be constructed in Adelaide, with DCNS of France selected as the preferred international partner for the design.

The $50 billion Future Submarine Project is the largest and most complex defence acquisition Australia has ever undertaken. It will deliver a regionally-superior submarine that meets Australia’s unique national security requirements, as detailed in the 2016 Defence White Paper.

Today’s announcement follows the comprehensive Competitive Evaluation Process involving DCNS, TKMS of Germany and the Government of Japan. Each bidder submitted very high quality proposals and the Australian Government thanked both TKMS and the Government of Japan for their ongoing commitment to Australia and their participation in the process.

The rigorous and independent process was led by Head of the Future Submarine Program, Rear Admiral Greg Sammut, and General Manager Submarines, retired US Navy Rear Admiral Stephen Johnson, who was previously in charge of the program to replace the Ohio Class ballistic missile submarines.

The process was overseen by an independent Expert Advisory Panel, chaired by former Secretary of the United States Navy, Professor Donald Winter. It was peer reviewed by retired US Navy Vice Admiral Paul Sullivan and retired US Navy Rear Admiral Thomas Eccles.

This decision was driven by the French bid's ability to best meet the unique capability requirements. These included superior sensor performance and stealth characteristics, as well as range and endurance similar to the Collins class submarine. The Government’s considerations also included cost, schedule, program execution, through-life support and Australian industry involvement.

Subject to discussions on commercial matters, the design of the Future Submarine with DCNS will begin this year.

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VIDEO: German Navy’s air-independent U 35 submarine



Although the German Navy’s Type 212A submarine U 35 belongs to the same class as its predecessors, the German Navy says the second batch of boats is far more technically advanced.

The latest video released by the ‘Marine’ showcases the submarine explaining how the hybrid, air independent propulsion (AIP) works. While the video is in German language, it does contain graphics which illustrate how the system works.

What makes AIP submarines highly effective in what they are designed to do is their low heat, and noise signature which allows the boats to stay undetected for weeks while submerged.

A range of improvements distinguishes the U 35 from her four older sister ships. This second generation of submarines is specifically optimized for deployments around the world. The boat has a bigger reservoir, improved air-conditioning, a new combat system and is equipped with a hatch that allows divers to exit the submarine while underwater.

Additionally, the U 35 features a communication buoy which allows the boat to send and receive messages while travelling at greater depths. The buoy is connected to the boat via a cable that adjusts length automatically allowing the commander to travel at whatever speed or depth he prefers.

The German Navy will operate two of the second-batch submarines once the U 36 joins service sometime in 2016 if all goes according to plans.

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[Túlio]

Alguém aí sabe alguma razão pela qual aquele conceito de sub com tanques toroidais foi abandonado? Era extremamente promissor nos anos 90 e, combinado com a AIP (à época, considerada perigosa demais) e alta automatização dos sistemas, podia dar em um SSK superior a um SSN em diversos aspectos, podendo realizar longas patrulhas sem emergir (energia propulsiva nas células AIP e ar, água potável e combustível nos tanques toroidais) e com menos ruído...

[Lywis]

As Tipo 209 vão ser descomissionadas com a possível chegada das Scorpenne?

As classes Tupi/Tikuna vão operar simultaneamente com a classe Riachuelo por alguns anos. Existem no momento estudos para modernização, por exemplo, da propulsão dos referidos navios.

Sds

Lord Nauta

Eles deverão ser descomissionados gradualmente a medida que os novos submarinos forem sendo declarados operacionais. O que deverá conviver com a maioria dos novos submarinos, inclusive o nuclear, é o Tikuna, que só deverá ser aposentado por volta de 2035.

Agora não me pergunte onde eu li isso.

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World News | Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:56am EDT

France, India play down security risk of leaked submarine data

By Cyril Altmeyer and Douglas Busvine | PARIS/FRANCE
PARIS/FRANCE France and India on Thursday played down the security risk posed by leaked data on French-designed submarines that a source told Reuters was probably stolen by a French former employee and that has raised concerns over a $38 billion contract with Australia.

More than 22,000 pages of data about six submarines that France's DCNS is building for India's navy looked to have been stolen in 2011 by a subcontractor who was fired while providing training in India, the source said.

India's defense ministry said on Thursday that it saw no immediate security risk and the French government said the information in the documents only showed how the submarines operate and did not compromise their security.

India and France are investigating after The Australian newspaper published on Wednesday details about its Scorpene submarines being built in India by contractor DCNS - 35 percent owned by Thales (TCFP.PA) and 65 percent by the French state.

"It is not a leak, it is theft," the source said. "We have not found any DCNS negligence, but we have identified some dishonesty by an individual."

The French government source said security procedures would be strengthened for all employees going to work in Australia to ensure one person did not have access to so many documents.

The documents were not classified and at this stage appeared to only focus on how the submarines are operated not how they are built and whether they can be detected, the source said.

"The Indians can object to the fact that these documents show the Pakistanis how to maintain their submarines and that's annoying, but it doesn't tell the Pakistanis how to detect an Indian ship, or how we build a submarine in France. Not at all," the source said.

The newspaper published only a fraction of the documents, and these had been redacted, meaning that sensitive details relating to the Scorpene's design and stealth capabilities did not enter the public domain.

"The documents that have been posted ... have been examined and do not pose any security compromise as the vital parameters have been blacked out," an Indian defense ministry statement said.

The submarines are being built at a state-run shipyard in Mumbai. The first is expected to enter service by the end of the year as India seeks to rebuild its dwindling fleet and assert its dominance in the strategic waters of the Indian Ocean.

The leak has raised doubts about the security of a separate DCNS submarine project in Australia where it is locked in exclusive negotiations after seeing off rivals on a contract to build the Barracuda next generation of submarines.

DCNS said it was working to determine if any harm had been caused to clients and whether commercial espionage was to blame.

DCNS is also pitching for submarine contracts in Norway and Poland and beat Germany's ThyssenKrupp AG (TKAG.DE) and a Japanese-government backed bid by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (7011.T) and Kawasaki Heavy Industries (7012.T) in Australia.

French officials have sought to play down the impact on the Australia contract.

"The dialogue with Australia has not been cut at all. There is mutual confidence and I don't believe at all that this contract will be put into question," Patricia Adam, the head of France's parliamentary defense committee.


(Additional reporting by Emmanuel Jarry; Writing by John Irish; Editing by Louise Ireland)

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-franc ... SKCN11014I

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Submarine Data Leak Roils Three Governments
The revelation Aug. 24 by an Australian newspaper that thousands of pages of presumably secret submarine documents were on the loose shook governments in Canberra, New Delhi and Paris. The news threatened the operational security of India’s new Scorpene-class submarines, embarrassed French shipbuilder DCNS, and raised security questions about Australia’s recent Australian $50 billion deal with DCNS for 12 Shortfin Barracuda submarines, of a design similar to the Scorpenes.

As reported by The Australian newspaper, a reporter was shown samples of up to 24,500 pages of highly technical data on the Scorpene submarine, an advanced, non-nuclear design that has been exported by DCNS to several countries. The documents, said The Australian, include highly technical drawings, specifications and operational capability descriptions of the submarine’s stealth features; noise signatures at different speeds; range, endurance, diving depths, magnetic and infrared data.

The information, The Australian reported, would be considered classified and highly sensitive by any navy.

Initially, there were fears that some sort of Wikileaks-like situation had occurred, or that this was a case of industrial espionage. But on Aug. 27, The Weekend Australian reported it seemed to be more a story of a disgruntled employee who initially stole the data, followed by mishandling of the information by a contractor. The story, the publication said, seemed to be “more Austin Powers than James Bond.”

Initially, said The Weekend Australian, it’s believed a French subcontractor copied the data from DCNS in France in 2011, and it was taken to “a Southeast Asian country” – reported by Reuters to be India. After a fallout with his employer, the subcontractor was terminated, but the data was left on a company computer. The information was then sent to the company’s head office in Singapore, and in April 2013 the data was placed on a server. It is not clear, The Weekend Australian said, how long the data resided on the server or whether any foreign intelligence service obtained the data.

But the complete data package was copied to a disk, dropped in the mail, and sent to an unspecified person in Sydney, Australia who, realizing the significance, copied it to an encrypted disk, destroyed the original and stored it in a locked filing cabinet for more than two years.

More recently, The Weekend Australian reported, the man showed samples of the data to a reporter while meeting in a Melbourne suburb. The man, the publication said, called himself a whistleblower and wanted to demonstrate that a serious security breach existed in a dangerously uncontrolled form, and that France has already lost control of secret data on India’s submarines.

His hope, The Weekend Australian said, was to spur Australia and DCNS to step up security to ensure Australia’s submarine program doesn’t suffer the same fate.

The Australian government tried to play down the story.

“All leaks of classified information like that are of concern,” Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull told Channel Seven. “The submarine they are building for India is not the submarine we will be building for Australia. It is a completely different model, a different submarine. The information is some years old now.”

Australia recently announced a new comprehensive cyber strategy, Turnbull said.

“We have the highest security protections on all of our defense information, whether it is in partnership with other countries or entirely within Australia,” he told Channel Seven. “But clearly it is a reminder that, particularly in this digital world, cyber security is of critical importance.”

In New Delhi, Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar asked the Indian Navy to deliver a report on the leak within one month, according to a senior official with the Indian Ministry of Defense.

The first of six Indian Scorpene submarines, the Kalvari, was launched in October at Mazagon Dock Ltd., in Mumbai. DCNS and India are working under a $3.5 billion deal signed in 2005.

The Indian Navy, in an Aug. 25 statement, tried to downplay the leak.

“The documents that have been posted on the website by an Australian news agency have been examined and do not pose any security compromise as the vital parameters have been blacked out,” the Indian Navy said.

The Navy added it “has taken up the matter with the Director General of Armament of the French Government expressing concern over this incident, and has requested the French Government to investigate this incident with urgency and share their findings with the Indian side.”

Retired Indian Navy admiral and former service chief Arun Prakash said the leak has "badly" compromised the credibility of DCNS.

In Paris, DCNS would not comment directly on the data.

“DCNS has been made aware of articles published in the Australian press related to the leakage of sensitive data about (the) Indian Scorpene,” the company told Defense News on Aug. 23.

“This serious matter is being thoroughly investigated by the ... French national authorities for defense security,” DCNS said. “This investigation will determine the exact nature of the leaked documents, the potential damages to DCNS customers as well as the responsibilities for this leakage.”

The Scorpene leak sparked close coverage in the French media. Conservative daily Le Figaro placed the Scorpene story on its internet subscribers service, such was the high value attached to the topic.

Left wing daily Libération pointed up the weak resources assigned by the French external and internal intelligence agencies to help industry with economic intelligence, as respectively DGSE and DGSI are focused on anti-terrorism.

A French government official said the DCNS documents had been stolen in 2011, not leaked, with the perpetrator a former French employee who had been fired while providing training in India, Reuters reported. There was no negligence from DCNS but there has been "some dishonesty by an individual."

Pierre Tran in Paris, Vivek Raghuvanshi in New Delhi, Nigel Pittaway in Australia, and Christopher P. Cavas in Washington contributed to this report.

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/sub ... overnments

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The first two modernized Type 035G class submarines of the Bangladesh Navy arrived at Chittagong port, Bangladesh, on Dec 22. By bdmilitary