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é verdade, mas também é verdade Tactical Report não é credível; no passado, eles anunciaram a venda do Rafale no Iêmen, Omã, Qatar ... antes que você diga o contrárioSantiago escreveu:
Fonte: http://www.tacticalreport.com/
Essa mania de tentar desqualificar tudo que vai contra as preferência pessoais...isso não é bom.
Não. Eles não anunciaram a venda de nada. Leia com atenção o que foi publicado (coloca Rafale na ferramenta de busca deles):Danielo escreveu:é verdade, mas também é verdade Tactical Report não é credível; no passado, eles anunciaram a venda do Rafale no Iêmen, Omã, Qatar ... antes que você diga o contrárioSantiago escreveu:
Fonte: http://www.tacticalreport.com/
Essa mania de tentar desqualificar tudo que vai contra as preferência pessoais...isso não é bom.
é um site sobre a borda do scam que usa rumores de fazer notícia e vendê-los .. muito, muito caro...
UAE, Egypt, Rafale and Mirage 2000-9 (40$)
Posted on: Tue, Jul 20, 2010
The UAE and France are said to be trying to sell to Egypt the 30 Mirage 2000-9 fighter jets in service with the UAE Air Force, as such a sale is needed for the UAE and France to conclude the Rafale deal. The following 445-word report sheds light on the contacts with Egypt on the subject. It also tells what about UAE-Egypt-France air force cooperation.
Kuwait: F-18 Super Hornet preferred to Rafale (40$)
Posted on: Tue, Jul 20, 2010
The technical military teams of the Kuwaiti Defence Ministry and Kuwait Air Force (KAF) are said to have recommended buying the Boeing-made F-18 Super Hornet to the Dassault-made Rafale. The following 485-word report sheds light on the subject and tells how Emir Sabah Al-Ahmad and Defence Minister Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak reacted to the recommendation of the technical teams.
Kuwait: Emir Sabah, Sheikh Jaber and the Rafale issue – Update 3 (30$)
Posted on: Wed, Jul 14, 2010
The Kuwaiti Parliament’s (Islamist) Reform and Development Bloc of MP Waleed Tabatabai is said to have reactivated opposition to buy the French-made Rafale fighter jet for Kuwait Air Force (KAF). The following 427-word report sheds light on the subject and tells what about the position of Emir Sabah Al-Ahmad of Kuwait and that of Defence Minister Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak.
Kuwait Air Force, Rafale or F-18 Super Hornet (40$)
Posted on: Thu, Jun 10, 2010
The State Audit Bureau of Kuwait is said to be showing preference for a deal with the Americans for the F-18 Super Hornet rather than for a deal with the French side for the Rafale aircraft. The following 386-word report sheds light on the subject and tells what the position is at the Kuwaiti Defence Ministry and Kuwait Air Force (KAF).
Iraq-France: Rafale, Mirage 2000-9 and military cooperation (40$)
Posted on: Tue, Jun 08, 2010
A delegation of the French Defence Ministry visited Baghdad last week and met with Iraqi PM Nouri Al-Maliki on military cooperation between both countries. The following 432-word report sheds light on the meeting and tells what about military cooperation between both countries. It also tells what about the Rafale deal and how Al-Maliki and the French delegation approached it.
Yemen: President Saleh, Rafale or Mirage 2000-9 (30$)
Posted on: Tue, May 25, 2010
Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh is said to be showing interest in buying French-made fighter jets, notably the Rafale or the Mirage 2000-9. The following 331-word report sheds light on the subject and tells how President is going to finance a deal to buy new fighter jets. It also tells what he is doing to improve his country’s armament relations with France.
UAE, Dassault Aviation and the Rafale (40$)
Posted on: Wed, May 19, 2010
Delegates of Dassault Aviation and Thales are said to have recently held a series of contacts and meetings with Emirati officers of the General Headquarters (GHQ) of the UAE Armed Forces on the subject of the Rafale aircraft. The following 412-word report sheds light on the subject and tells what the contacts were about. It also tells how Dassault Aviation reacts to the Emirati demands.
Kuwait, France and the Rafale deal – Update 3 (35$)
Posted on: Mon, May 10, 2010
Officers of Kuwait Air Force (KAF) are said to be circulating a comparison between the specifications of the F-18 Super Hornet and those of the Rafale aircraft. The following 424-word report sheds light on the subject and tells why circulating such a comparison between the two aircraft. It also tells whether the State Audit Bureau of Kuwait finished its report about the Rafale deal or not yet.
Kuwait: Emir Sabah, Sheikh Jaber and the Rafale deal (40$)
Posted on: Fri, Apr 23, 2010
Pilot officers of Kuwait Air Force (KAF) are said to be preparing to test the French-made Rafale fighter jet. The following 464-word report, included in Tactical Weekly of April 23, 2010, sheds light on the subject and tells what the test means and in which context it is going to take place. It also tells how Kuwaiti Defence Minister Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak is dealing with the Rafale issue.
Kuwait: Emir Sabah, Sheikh Jaber and the Rafale issue – Update 1 (30$)
Posted on: Thu, Apr 15, 2010
The Kuwaiti Parliament’s Interior and Defence Committee is said to have no objection in principle to buying the French-made Rafale aircraft. The following 313-word report sheds light on the subject and tells what about the Committee's position. It also tells what about the position of Emir Sabah Al-Ahmad of Kuwait and that of Kuwaiti Defence Minister Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak.
UAE Air Force, F-35 JSF, F-22 Raptor and Rafale (40$)
Posted on: Fri, Mar 26, 2010
The UAE Air Force is said to have a serious tendency to buy one of the following two US-made fighter jets: The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) or the F-22 Raptor. The following 444-word report included in Tactical Weekly of March 26, 2010 sheds light on the subject and tells why the Emiratis are interested in the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) and what about their plans to buy the Rafale aircraft. (See UAE for first report)
Kuwait: Sheikh Jaber, Islamist MPs and the Rafale issue (30$)
Posted on: Wed, Mar 24, 2010
The Kuwaiti Parliament’s (Islamist) Development and Reform Bloc rejected a possible deal to buy up to 28 Rafale fighter jets from France. The following 358-word report sheds light on the subject and tells how Emir Sabah Al-Ahmad of Kuwait and Defence Minister Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak are approaching it. It also tells whether the Islamist bloc will succeed to block the deal or not.
Kuwait, France and the Rafale deal - Update 2 (35$)
Posted on: Wed, Mar 03, 2010
The Kuwaiti Defence Ministry is said to have received a new offer from the French side for a deal for 28 Rafale jets with option to increase the number at the request of Kuwait. The following 390-word report sheds light on the subject and tells what the situation is in Kuwait with regard to it. It also tells what about the position of Emir Sabah Al-Ahmad of Kuwait.
UAE Air Force and the Rafale deal (35$)
Posted on: Wed, Feb 24, 2010
The UAE Air Force and the French side are said to be working together to remove all the obstacles that are still standing in the way of the Rafale deal. The following 368-word report sheds light on the subject and tells what kind of obstacles are still standing in the way. It also tells how the UAE Air Force is approaching the whole matter.
Kuwait: Emir Sabah, Sheikh Jaber and the Rafale issue (40$)
Posted on: Mon, Feb 22, 2010
Emir Sabah Al-Ahmad of Kuwait is said to have held a meeting with Defence Minister Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak on the issue of the F-18 Super Hornet and that of the Rafale aircraft. The following 392-word report sheds light on the subject and tells how Emir Sabah Al-Ahmad is approaching the Rafale issue and what Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak tells about the talks with the Americans on the F-18 Super Hornet.
Iraq, France and talks on Rafale or Mirage 2000 (35$)
Posted on: Wed, Feb 17, 2010
Iraqi PM Nouri Al-Maliki is said to have given instructions to take the necessary measures to retrieve more than 650m Euros ($900m) deposited in French banks since the era of former Saddam’s regime to buy Mirage F-1 fighter jets. The following 406-word report sheds light on the subject and tells whether the move has to do or not with Iraqi-French talks on Iraqi plans to buy the Rafale or the Mirage-2000.
Iraq: General Babakir Zibari and the Rafale issue (30$)
Posted on: Wed, Feb 10, 2010
Chief of Staff of the Iraqi Armed Forces General Babakir Zibari is said to have reticence about supplying the Iraqi Air Force (IAF) with French-made fighter jets, notably the Rafale. The following 368-word report sheds light on the subject and tells what reasons he gives to support his reticence. It also tells what he says about the Pentagon’s position with regard to Iraqi plans to buy new fighter jets.
Qatar: Sheikh Tamim and the Rafale issue (40$)
Posted on: Mon, Feb 08, 2010
Crown Prince of Qatar Sheikh Tamim Bin Hamad Al-Thani met with President Nicolas Sarkozy and Defence Minister Hervé Morin in Paris last week. The Rafale issue is said to have been raised during his meeting either with Sarkozy or with Morin. The following 435-word report sheds light on the issue and tells what Sheikh Tamim told about it and how Sarkozy and Morin reacted.
Iraq, France and Rafale deal (30$)
Posted on: Wed, Feb 03, 2010
The Iraqis are said to have begun wondering what happened to their plans to buy French-made fighter jets. The following 403-word report sheds light on the subject and tells what impression the Iraqis have now about the French position with regards to their plans. Note that Iraqi President Jalal Talabani discussed these plans with his French counterpart Nicolas Sarkozy when he visited Paris in November.
Kuwait, France and the Rafale deal – Update 1 (40$)
Posted on: Thu, Jan 28, 2010
A delegation of the French Defence Ministry is said to be preparing to visit Kuwait for further talks with Kuwaiti Defence Minister Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak on the Rafale issue. The following 405-word report sheds light on the subject and tells what the position of Sheikh Jaber with regard to the French delegation’s visit. It also tells what about the position of Emir Sabah Al-Ahmad with regard to the Rafale issue.
Kuwait Defence Ministry, Rafale and the UAE experience – Update 1 (40$)
Posted on: Thu, Jan 14, 2010
The Kuwaiti Defence Ministry is said to have failed to benefit too much from the Emirati experience in negotiations underway with France on the Rafale aircraft. The following 435-word report sheds light on the subject and tells why the Emiratis did not cooperate. It also tells how Kuwaiti Deputy PM and Defence Minister Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak is now approaching the Rafale deal.
UAE Air Force, F-35 JSF and Rafale (40$)
Posted on: Wed, Dec 23, 2009
The Emiratis are said to have the impression that the Americans will try to talk with them about the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) after trying to convince them to buy the F-22 Raptor. The following 408-word report sheds light on the subject and tells why the Emiratis have that impression. It also tells how the Emiratis are reacting to such attempts.
Kuwait Defence Ministry, Rafale and the UAE experience (40$)
Posted on: Tue, Dec 22, 2009
The Kuwaiti Defence Ministry is said to have consulted the General Headquarters (GHQ) of the UAE Armed Forces on the French-made Rafale aircraft. The following 372-word report sheds light on the subject and tells whether the consultation has had a positive or negative impact on the Kuwaitis. It also tells when to expect the Kuwaitis to finish their report on the Rafale aircraft.
Kuwait Defence Ministry, France and the Rafale deal (40$)
Posted on: Mon, Dec 14, 2009
There is a talk about the possibility of Kuwait buying between 12 and 14 Rafale fighter jets. The following 432-word report sheds light on the subject and tells whether this is true or not and what the position is at the Kuwaiti Defence Ministry. Note that French President Nicolas Sarkozy visited Kuwait early this year and said there that the Kuwaitis were considering buying up to 28 Rafale jets.
UAE: Lockheed Martin, F-22 Raptor and Rafale (40$)
Posted on: Sat, Dec 12, 2009
Lockheed Martin is said to be trying to convince the Emiratis to buy the F-22 Raptor rather than the Rafale aircraft. The following 406-word report sheds light on the subject and tells how the Emirati officials are reacting. Note that the F-22 Raptor, made by Lockheed Martin and Boeing, uses stealth technology and was displayed at Dubai Air Show last month.
Talabani, Gates, Iraq Army and Rafale (30$)
Posted on: Fri, Dec 11, 2009
US Defence Secretary Robert Gates is said to have held talks with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani on issues related to the Iraqi Army and Iraq Air Force (IAF). The following 416-word report sheds light on the issues and tells what Gates told Talabani about the possibility of Iraq buying French-made fighter jets. It also tells how Iraqi PM Nouri Al-Maliki reacted to Talabani-Gates military talks.
UAE, France and Rafale F-3 Plus (40$)
Posted on: Thu, Dec 10, 2009
The UAE is said to have received a French package offer for the Rafale F-3 Plus with all the specifications that have the Rafale with the French Air Force. The following 459-word report sheds light on the subject and tells how the Emiratis are reacting to the offer. It also tells whether the General Staff of the UAE Armed Forces is satisfied with the process of the talks or not.
Kuwait: Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak, KAF and the F-18 Super Hornet (40$)
Posted on: Fri, Dec 04, 2009
The Kuwaiti Air Force (KAF) is said to be showing dissatisfaction with how the talks with the Americans on the F-18 Super Hornet continue. The following 363-word report sheds light on the subject and tells whether Kuwaiti Defence Minister Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak is showing the same dissatisfaction. It also tells what about the Rafale option.
Iraq: Talabani, Sarkozy and Rafale F-1 (30$)
Posted on: Wed, Dec 02, 2009
Iraqi President Jalal Talabani and his French counterpart Nicolas Sarkozy are said to have discussed Iraqi plans to buy the French-made Rafale aircraft at their meeting in Paris last month. The following 329-word report sheds light on the subject and tells how each side approached it and what each side told the other about the obstacles that are standing on the way.
Qatar: F-16, Rafale or JAS 39 Gripen? (40$)
Posted on: Mon, Nov 30, 2009
French President Nicolas Sarkozy is said to have not yet ruled out the possibility of placing an offer with the Qataris for the Rafale aircraft. The following 415-report sheds light on the subject and tells what makes President Sarkozy maintain hope and how the Qataris are approaching the Rafale option. It also tells what about the other options: the F-16, Eurofighter Typhoon and JAS 39 Gripen.
Iraq: Talabani, Sarkozy and armament affairs (30$)
Posted on: Wed, Nov 18, 2009
Iraqi President Jalal Talabani paid this week a three day visit to Paris during which he met with his French counterpart Nicolas Sarkozy. The following 352-word report sheds light on the armament talks between both men and on which issues they focused. It also tells how Sarkozy is approaching the issue of supplying Iraq with Rafale or Mirage 2000-9 fighter jets.
Saudi King Abdullah-Sarkozy: no Nuclear, no FREMM and no Rafale (40$)
Posted on: Wed, Nov 18, 2009
French President Nicolas Sarkozy ended a two-day visit to Saudi Arabia and left for Qatar after meeting with Saudi King Abdullah at his desert farm in Janadiria near Riyadh. The following 471-word report sheds light on his visit and tells what might turned it from official to private. Note that Sarkozy’s visit was expected to focus on nuclear cooperation, on the FREMM-class frigate and on the Rafale aircraft.
Qatar, Biden and the F-16 issue (40$)
Posted on: Wed, Nov 11, 2009
US Vice-President Joe Biden is said to be seeing no way to sell the F-16 aircraft to Qatar in the short run. The following 403-word report sheds light on the subject and tells how Crown Prince Sheikh Tamim Bin Hamad Al-Thani is reacting and how PM and Foreign Minister Sheikh Hamad Bin Jassem Al-Jabr Al-Thani is approaching the matter. It also tells whether this can play in favor of Rafale and how.
Saudi-French nuclear cooperation in trouble, Rafale in progress (50$)
Posted on: Fri, Oct 30, 2009
As French President Nicolas Sarkozy is preparing to visit Riyadh in November, the course of Saudi-French nuclear cooperation is said to be in trouble, while the Rafale issue is said to be in progress. The following 391-word report sheds light on both subjects and tells what makes the course of Saudi-French nuclear cooperation in trouble and what makes the Rafale issue in progress.
Kuwait: Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak, Rafale and F-18 Super Hornet (50$)
Posted on: Fri, Oct 23, 2009
Kuwaiti Deputy PM and Defence Minister Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak paid this week a four-day visit to Paris during which he talked about a Kuwaiti desire to get the Rafale into Kuwait Air Force (KAF). The following 449-word report published in Tactical Weekly of October 23, 2009 sheds light on the subject and tells whether Sheikh Jaber’s statement suggests any changes in the Kuwaiti priorities. It also tells how the Kuwaitis are now approaching the Rafale issue.
Saudi-French talks: FREMM, Rafale and helicopters (40$)
Posted on: Wed, Oct 21, 2009
French President Nicolas Sarkozy is due to pay a two-day visit to Saudi Arabia on November 17, 2009 during which he is expected to sign an agreement for peaceful nuclear cooperation between both countries. The following 395-word report sheds light on the talks he intends to hold on armament issues and how the Saudis are preparing for such talks. It also tells what to expect at the end of these talks.
Kuwait expects delivery of the F-18 Super Hornet? (40$)
Posted on: Tue, Oct 20, 2009
The Kuwaiti Defence Ministry is said to be expecting delivery of first squadron of the F-18 Super Hornet next year. The following 428-word report sheds light on the subject and tells what makes the Ministry expect such a delivery. It also tells whether the Emiri palace shares the Defence Ministry its optimism or not. Note that the Kuwaitis have offers for other aircraft, notably the Rafale and the JAS 39 Gripen.
Qatar: Major-General Al-Atiyya, F-16 or Rafale (40$)
Posted on: Tue, Oct 13, 2009
Chief of Staff of the Qatari Armed Forces Major-General Hamad Bin Ali Al-Atiyya is said to prefer the F-16 to the Rafale within the context of the Qatari Air Force (QAF) procurement programme. The following 390-word report sheds light on the subject and tells whether Al-Atiyya prefers the F-16 to the Rafale or not and how he is approaching the issue.
Qatar: PM Sheikh Hamad Bin Jassem, F-16 and Rafale (40$)
Posted on: Mon, Oct 12, 2009
Qatari PM and Foreign Minister Sheikh Hamad Bin Jassem Bin Jabr Al-Thani is said to be maintaining a different view from that of Qatari Crown Prince Sheikh Tamim Bin Hamad Al-Thani over which aircraft to buy for the Qatari Air Force (QAF), the Rafale or the F-16. The following 456-word report sheds light on how Sheikh Hamad Bin Jassem is approaching the subject.
Saudi Arabia: Green Shield 2, F-15 and Rafale (40$)
Posted on: Thu, Oct 08, 2009
The Royal Saudi Air Force (RSAF) began early this week a joint exercise with the French Air Force codenamed the “Green Shield 2”. The following 387-word report sheds light on the event and tells how the Saudis are assessing the performance of their F-15 and how they see it in comparison with that of the French Rafale. It also tells what about their future plans regarding the F-15. Note that the “Green Shield 1” was held in Saudi Arabia in 2007.
Esses rumores sobre as tentativas de vendas da Dassault aos ricos países produtores de petróleo do Golfo (Kuwait, EAU, Omã, Arábia Saudita, etc) e de outras paragens (Libia) não é novidade para ninguém. Há farta documentação em diversas outras fontes inclusive AFP.Danielo escreveu:Você só vê a primeira linha.
Todas essas coisas nunca foram confirmadas por outra fonte, estes são apenas rumores. Mas você é livre para acreditar e comprar essas notícias .. é o que eles querem.
Mas você nunca vai encontrar um site ou uma revista renomeada, que cita Tactical Report como uma fonte credível de informação.
Mas é bom para os fóruns
Alguns têm que fazer o contraponto, oras! Isso não é um fórum de dabates?Carlos Mathias escreveu:Desde que falando mal dos franceses, é lei pro USAntiago.
Ele a partir de agora vai ficar conhecido pelo apelido de "O Isento".Carlos Mathias escreveu:Desde que falando mal dos franceses, é lei pro USAntiago.
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o Califado?
Mas não é de hoje que os franceses insistem. Afinal ele operaram o Mirage F-1 e a França participu da Guerra do Golfo ativamente.PRick escreveu:Ele a partir de agora vai ficar conhecido pelo apelido de "O Isento".Carlos Mathias escreveu:Desde que falando mal dos franceses, é lei pro USAntiago.
E sobre o Kwait, é aquela grande nação, com uma grande monarquia que os EUA tornaram um protetorado, alguém sabe quantos soldados dos EUA ainda ocupam, ops, defendem
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Le Figaro notes France-Kuwait discussions on Rafale fighter
Military and Security 2/12/2009 2:39:00 PM
PARIS, Feb 12 (KUNA) -- France and Kuwait are in discussions described at the highest level as "deep and quite advanced" on the purchase by Kuwait of high-tech, French "Rafale" fighters, discussions that could be concluded before the end of the year, daily "Le Figaro" reported here.
The newspaper, in a commentary on the visit earlier this week to the region by President Nicolas Sarkozy, indicated that the issue of Rafale sales was brought up in Oman and Kuwait, both of which are keen to upgrade their ageing air forces.
Sarkozy brought up the issue of the "Rafale" in talks with His Highness the Amir Sheikh Sabah Al-Ahmad Al-Jaber Al-Sabah, when the two men met in Kuwait city on Wednesday after Sarkozy had briefly visited Iraq, then Oman and Bahrain.
"Le Figaro" said that Kuwait is equipped with "about thirty ageing Mirage F1 planes," which were also supplied by France.
The French President said while in Kuwait that the discussions "were deep and quite advanced" with a timeline set for the end of this year.
The daily also commented that the deal between the two countries could concern between "14 and 28" Rafale aircraft, or about two squadrons.
It was also remarked in the commentary that France and Kuwait should sign "a new agreement for a strategic partnership" at the end of 2009, which would be an upgrading of the defence cooperation agreement signed between the two nations in 1993.
"Le Figaro" also noted that Sarkozys visit was not aimed at upstaging "Anglo-Saxon" influence in the region, but France was simply aiming to reinforce its position in the region, where "France and Europe have been missing these past years." "The aim is not to replace the Americans but to be side-by-side," the daily quoted Sarkozy as saying.
"Le Figaro" remarked that the Gulf region is the area Sarkozy has most visited since he was elected in May 2007, with the exception of countries of the European Union.
The French leader, the daily maintains, is eager to adopt as much a geostrategic approach as a commercial approach to relations with the Gulf nations and balance Frances position relative to Israel and the Arab countries.
This balance has "opened many doors for us," the newspaper quoted Sarkozy as saying (end)
França tenta vender aviões Rafale ao Kuwait
Artigo publicado em 16 de Abril de 2010
http://www.portugues.rfi.fr/franca/2010 ... -ao-kuwait
Presidente francês Nicolas Sarkozy assinou acordo de cooperação com o Cheikh do Kuwait, Nasser Mohammed Al Ahmed Al-Sabah.
Reuters
Adriana Brandão
França e Kuwait assinaram nessa sexta-feira um acordo de defesa e cooperação nuclear. O presidente Nicolas Sarkozy aproveitou a ocasião para falar das vantagens do avião de guerra francês Rafale.
Enquanto espera a decisão da licitação brasileira para a compra de 36 caças, a França tenta vender o Rafale a outros países. O presidente francês Nicolas Sarkozy não perdeu a oportunidade de elogiar as qualidades técnicas do avião de combate ao primeiro ministro do Kuwait, durante sua visita a Paris nessa sexta-feira. Desde de fevereiro de 2009 a França tenta negociar a venda de 14 a 28 Rafale para o emirado.
Sarkozy reiterou ao Cheikh Nasser Mohammed Al Ahmed Al-Sabah seu desejo de que o negócio se concretize para reforçar a parceria estratégica entre os dois países. Enquanto o contrato não é fechado, França e Kuwait assinaram nessa sexta-feira um acordo de cooperação para a desenvolvimento da energia nuclear com fins pacíficos.
O Rafale é considerado um dos melhores caças do mundo, mas também o mais caro do mercado. Até hoje a França não conseguiu vender nenhum avião a um país estrangeiro. Além do Brasil e do Kuwait, o governo francês tenta convencer os Emirados Arabes a comprar o avião.
Lá vazaram o resultado do relatório também?AlbertoRJ escreveu:Acho que se for para levar isso a sério então a força aérea suíça realmente avaliou o Rafale como o melhor caça do seu concurso. E ainda foi comentado na imprensa local.
Não foi "prefencia" não, foi o melhor.
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Sim, e deu o mesmo resultado do nosso: Rafale.Santiago escreveu:Lá vazaram o resultado do relatório também?AlbertoRJ escreveu:Acho que se for para levar isso a sério então a força aérea suíça realmente avaliou o Rafale como o melhor caça do seu concurso. E ainda foi comentado na imprensa local.
Não foi "prefencia" não, foi o melhor.
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Mas isso o Kwait comprava antes de ser ocupado, oops, libertado pelos EUA, agora, a situação é diferente, porque estão ocupados, oops, protegidos pelas tropas dos EUA.Santiago escreveu:Mas não é de hoje que os franceses insistem. Afinal ele operaram o Mirage F-1 e a França participu da Guerra do Golfo ativamente.PRick escreveu: Ele a partir de agora vai ficar conhecido pelo apelido de "O Isento".
E sobre o Kwait, é aquela grande nação, com uma grande monarquia que os EUA tornaram um protetorado, alguém sabe quantos soldados dos EUA ainda ocupam, ops, defendem
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