Irã tem como se defender de Israel?

[varj]

Começou o jogo mais forte e covarde contra os signatários do acordo com o Irã.Esta demonstração desnecessária, cruel e vergonhosa de afundar um barco Turco com ajuda humanitária não tem cabimento.
Uma vistoria ainda no mar já seria por si só suficiente, mas não a opção foi de abrir fogo contra um barco civil desarmado, matando 10 pessoas e ferindo 30.

[marcelo l.]

Se quiserem procurar armas nucleares...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 24,00.html

Report: Israel to station nuclear missile subs off Iran
Sunday Times says Jewish state plans to deploy three submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles in Persian Gulf. According to report, decision has been taken to ensure permanent presence of at least one of vessels

srael plans to deploy three submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles in the Persian Gulf, near the Iranian coastline, the Times reports Sunday. The report did not say when the submarines would be stationed in the area.

According to the London-based newspaper's report, the three submarines - Dolphin, Tekuma and Leviathan - have visited the Gulf before, but the decision has now been taken to ensure the permanent presence of at least one of the he flotilla’s commander, identified only as “Colonel O”, was quoted as telling an Israeli newspaper: “We are an underwater assault force. We’re operating deep and far, very far, from our borders.”

According to the report, each of the submarines has a crew of 35 to 50, commanded by a colonel capable of launching a nuclear cruise missile.

The vessels, the Times said, can remain at sea for about 50 days and stay submerged up to 1,150 feet below the surface for at least a week. According to the Times, some of the cruise missiles are equipped with the most advanced nuclear warheads in the Israeli arsenal.

A Navy officer was quoted as saying that “the 1,500km range of the submarines’ cruise missiles can reach any target in Iran."

It should be noted that the presence of all three submarines in the Persian Gulf is not required in order to attack Iran, and such missiles can be launched from a greater distance without placing all submarines in the same area.

The three submarines were built for the Israeli Navy in Germany and were designed for a variety of missions, including exposing and monitoring vessels and drowning them with underwater Torpedo missiles and over-the-horizon Harpoon missiles.

In addition, these submarines can secretly reach distant shores for intelligence gathering purposes, to direct an aerial force at targets located near the coast and for landing submarine crewmen and fighters.

Dolphin submarines are diesel-electric, but according to foreign reports, they have offensive operational abilities installed only in atomic submarines used by world powers like the United States, Russia, Britain and France.

Apparently responding to the Israeli activity, an Iranian admiral was quoted as saying: “Anyone who wishes to do an evil act in the Persian Gulf will receive a forceful response from us.”

vessels

[FOXTROT]

Atacar barcos civis é fácil deve dar um moral para os comandos, quero ver é atacarem o complexo nuclear Iraniano, só que o complexo é bem defendido!

Saudações

[varj]

Atacar barcos civis é fácil deve dar um moral para os comandos, quero ver é atacarem o complexo nuclear Iraniano, só que o complexo é bem defendido!

Saudações

Dar moral a Amorais comandos pois um ataque covarde deve ser repudiado por toda comunidade internacional.

[Fábio Nascimento]

Durante muito tempo o mundo fechou os olhos para as atitudes da Alemanha nazista e deu no que deu.
Já passou da hora do mundo por Israel no seu devido lugar, antes que seja tarde demais.
Eles querem fazer com os árabes o que os nazistas fizeram com eles, o ódio e o desprezo é o mesmo.

[varj]

Se quiserem procurar armas nucleares...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 24,00.html

Report: Israel to station nuclear missile subs off Iran
Sunday Times says Jewish state plans to deploy three submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles in Persian Gulf. According to report, decision has been taken to ensure permanent presence of at least one of vessels

srael plans to deploy three submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles in the Persian Gulf, near the Iranian coastline, the Times reports Sunday. The report did not say when the submarines would be stationed in the area.

According to the London-based newspaper's report, the three submarines - Dolphin, Tekuma and Leviathan - have visited the Gulf before, but the decision has now been taken to ensure the permanent presence of at least one of the he flotilla’s commander, identified only as “Colonel O”, was quoted as telling an Israeli newspaper: “We are an underwater assault force. We’re operating deep and far, very far, from our borders.”

According to the report, each of the submarines has a crew of 35 to 50, commanded by a colonel capable of launching a nuclear cruise missile.

The vessels, the Times said, can remain at sea for about 50 days and stay submerged up to 1,150 feet below the surface for at least a week. According to the Times, some of the cruise missiles are equipped with the most advanced nuclear warheads in the Israeli arsenal.

A Navy officer was quoted as saying that “the 1,500km range of the submarines’ cruise missiles can reach any target in Iran."

It should be noted that the presence of all three submarines in the Persian Gulf is not required in order to attack Iran, and such missiles can be launched from a greater distance without placing all submarines in the same area.

The three submarines were built for the Israeli Navy in Germany and were designed for a variety of missions, including exposing and monitoring vessels and drowning them with underwater Torpedo missiles and over-the-horizon Harpoon missiles.

In addition, these submarines can secretly reach distant shores for intelligence gathering purposes, to direct an aerial force at targets located near the coast and for landing submarine crewmen and fighters.

Dolphin submarines are diesel-electric, but according to foreign reports, they have offensive operational abilities installed only in atomic submarines used by world powers like the United States, Russia, Britain and France.

Apparently responding to the Israeli activity, an Iranian admiral was quoted as saying: “Anyone who wishes to do an evil act in the Persian Gulf will receive a forceful response from us.”

vessels

Ora, ora, ora acabou a hipocrisia.Notícia veiculada no Sunday Times e através de sites Israelenses.Assumiram que possuem ogivas nucleares e que tem a total disposição de fazer uso delas.Me surpreende um povo que já sofreu as duras mazelas do genocídio estarem dispostos a utilizar armas de destruição em massa.
O jogo do poder caminha para direções perigosas.Os dedos ficam trêmulos e muito perto do gatilho.
Esperamos o posicionamento dos EUA seu grande padrinho.Pois com esta declaração de um Jornal Americano o TNP fica desmoralizado.A dito procura de armamento nuclear por parte dos Iranianos torna-se legitima pois toma o caráter de auto defesa.Afinal irá ter a presença assumida de 3 submarinos Israelenses portando mísseis balísticos nucleares na sua costa,

[varj]

Se quiserem procurar armas nucleares...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 24,00.html

Report: Israel to station nuclear missile subs off Iran
Sunday Times says Jewish state plans to deploy three submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles in Persian Gulf. According to report, decision has been taken to ensure permanent presence of at least one of vessels

srael plans to deploy three submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles in the Persian Gulf, near the Iranian coastline, the Times reports Sunday. The report did not say when the submarines would be stationed in the area.

According to the London-based newspaper's report, the three submarines - Dolphin, Tekuma and Leviathan - have visited the Gulf before, but the decision has now been taken to ensure the permanent presence of at least one of the he flotilla’s commander, identified only as “Colonel O”, was quoted as telling an Israeli newspaper: “We are an underwater assault force. We’re operating deep and far, very far, from our borders.”

According to the report, each of the submarines has a crew of 35 to 50, commanded by a colonel capable of launching a nuclear cruise missile.

The vessels, the Times said, can remain at sea for about 50 days and stay submerged up to 1,150 feet below the surface for at least a week. According to the Times, some of the cruise missiles are equipped with the most advanced nuclear warheads in the Israeli arsenal.

A Navy officer was quoted as saying that “the 1,500km range of the submarines’ cruise missiles can reach any target in Iran."

It should be noted that the presence of all three submarines in the Persian Gulf is not required in order to attack Iran, and such missiles can be launched from a greater distance without placing all submarines in the same area.

The three submarines were built for the Israeli Navy in Germany and were designed for a variety of missions, including exposing and monitoring vessels and drowning them with underwater Torpedo missiles and over-the-horizon Harpoon missiles.

In addition, these submarines can secretly reach distant shores for intelligence gathering purposes, to direct an aerial force at targets located near the coast and for landing submarine crewmen and fighters.

Dolphin submarines are diesel-electric, but according to foreign reports, they have offensive operational abilities installed only in atomic submarines used by world powers like the United States, Russia, Britain and France.

Apparently responding to the Israeli activity, an Iranian admiral was quoted as saying: “Anyone who wishes to do an evil act in the Persian Gulf will receive a forceful response from us.”

vessels

Ora, ora, ora acabou a hipocrisia.Notícia veiculada no Sunday Times e através de sites Israelenses.Assumiram que possuem ogivas nucleares e que tem a total disposição de fazer uso delas.Me surpreende um povo que já sofreu as duras mazelas do genocídio estarem dispostos a utilizar armas de destruição em massa.
O jogo do poder caminha para direções perigosas.Os dedos ficam trêmulos e muito perto do gatilho.
Esperamos o posicionamento dos EUA seu grande padrinho.Pois com esta declaração de um Jornal Americano o TNP fica desmoralizado.A dito procura de armamento nuclear por parte dos Iranianos torna-se legitima pois toma o caráter de auto defesa.Afinal irá ter a presença assumida de 3 submarinos Israelenses portando mísseis balísticos nucleares na sua costa,

Ahh já estava me esquecendo.Os submarinos são Alemães.Não falo mais nada.

[Carlos Mathias]

E aí? Vamos assinar o aditivo ao TNP?
Nossa diplomacia está errada?

[romeo]

Se quiserem procurar armas nucleares...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 24,00.html

Report: Israel to station nuclear missile subs off Iran
Sunday Times says Jewish state plans to deploy three submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles in Persian Gulf. According to report, decision has been taken to ensure permanent presence of at least one of vessels

srael plans to deploy three submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles in the Persian Gulf, near the Iranian coastline, the Times reports Sunday. The report did not say when the submarines would be stationed in the area.

According to the London-based newspaper's report, the three submarines - Dolphin, Tekuma and Leviathan - have visited the Gulf before, but the decision has now been taken to ensure the permanent presence of at least one of the he flotilla’s commander, identified only as “Colonel O”, was quoted as telling an Israeli newspaper: “We are an underwater assault force. We’re operating deep and far, very far, from our borders.”

According to the report, each of the submarines has a crew of 35 to 50, commanded by a colonel capable of launching a nuclear cruise missile.

The vessels, the Times said, can remain at sea for about 50 days and stay submerged up to 1,150 feet below the surface for at least a week. According to the Times, some of the cruise missiles are equipped with the most advanced nuclear warheads in the Israeli arsenal.

A Navy officer was quoted as saying that “the 1,500km range of the submarines’ cruise missiles can reach any target in Iran."

It should be noted that the presence of all three submarines in the Persian Gulf is not required in order to attack Iran, and such missiles can be launched from a greater distance without placing all submarines in the same area.

The three submarines were built for the Israeli Navy in Germany and were designed for a variety of missions, including exposing and monitoring vessels and drowning them with underwater Torpedo missiles and over-the-horizon Harpoon missiles.

In addition, these submarines can secretly reach distant shores for intelligence gathering purposes, to direct an aerial force at targets located near the coast and for landing submarine crewmen and fighters.

Dolphin submarines are diesel-electric, but according to foreign reports, they have offensive operational abilities installed only in atomic submarines used by world powers like the United States, Russia, Britain and France.

Apparently responding to the Israeli activity, an Iranian admiral was quoted as saying: “Anyone who wishes to do an evil act in the Persian Gulf will receive a forceful response from us.”

vessels

É essa capacidade de lançar mísseis que lamentei não fazer parte do projeto do nosso sub nuclear... Quem sabe nos próximos !?!

[varj]

Se quiserem procurar armas nucleares...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 24,00.html

Report: Israel to station nuclear missile subs off Iran
Sunday Times says Jewish state plans to deploy three submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles in Persian Gulf. According to report, decision has been taken to ensure permanent presence of at least one of vessels

srael plans to deploy three submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles in the Persian Gulf, near the Iranian coastline, the Times reports Sunday. The report did not say when the submarines would be stationed in the area.

According to the London-based newspaper's report, the three submarines - Dolphin, Tekuma and Leviathan - have visited the Gulf before, but the decision has now been taken to ensure the permanent presence of at least one of the he flotilla’s commander, identified only as “Colonel O”, was quoted as telling an Israeli newspaper: “We are an underwater assault force. We’re operating deep and far, very far, from our borders.”

According to the report, each of the submarines has a crew of 35 to 50, commanded by a colonel capable of launching a nuclear cruise missile.

The vessels, the Times said, can remain at sea for about 50 days and stay submerged up to 1,150 feet below the surface for at least a week. According to the Times, some of the cruise missiles are equipped with the most advanced nuclear warheads in the Israeli arsenal.

A Navy officer was quoted as saying that “the 1,500km range of the submarines’ cruise missiles can reach any target in Iran."

It should be noted that the presence of all three submarines in the Persian Gulf is not required in order to attack Iran, and such missiles can be launched from a greater distance without placing all submarines in the same area.

The three submarines were built for the Israeli Navy in Germany and were designed for a variety of missions, including exposing and monitoring vessels and drowning them with underwater Torpedo missiles and over-the-horizon Harpoon missiles.

In addition, these submarines can secretly reach distant shores for intelligence gathering purposes, to direct an aerial force at targets located near the coast and for landing submarine crewmen and fighters.

Dolphin submarines are diesel-electric, but according to foreign reports, they have offensive operational abilities installed only in atomic submarines used by world powers like the United States, Russia, Britain and France.

Apparently responding to the Israeli activity, an Iranian admiral was quoted as saying: “Anyone who wishes to do an evil act in the Persian Gulf will receive a forceful response from us.”

vessels

É essa capacidade de lançar mísseis que lamentei não fazer parte do projeto do nosso sub nuclear... Quem sabe nos próximos !?!

Será????Ou estão de uma forma bem mineira esperando o projeto tomar pá.Veja do SNB só mostram a maquete...lembra da propaganda..quanta diferenca!!!!

[Sterrius]

Nao existem sistemas pra lançar misseis taticos ou estrategicos através do tubo de torpedos? Ou apenas com tubos no casco superior é possivel lançar esses misseis?

Falo por causa do exocet e talvez de algum outro missel futuro que possa ser lançado em direção a terra! (Apesar que acho que o foco do SNB deva ser apenas o mar mesmo, ao menos essa primeira geração de subs).

[Carlos Mathias]

É só optar pelo CLUB-N, que tem uma versão de míssil cruise.

[Enlil]

Nao existem sistemas pra lançar misseis taticos ou estrategicos através do tubo de torpedos? Ou apenas com tubos no casco superior é possivel lançar esses misseis?

Falo por causa do exocet e talvez de algum outro missel futuro que possa ser lançado em direção a terra! (Apesar que acho que o foco do SNB deva ser apenas o mar mesmo, ao menos essa primeira geração de subs).

O problema é o diâmetro: 533mm. Pelo q eu saiba, salvo engano, os submarinos q lançam misseis cruise na horizontal tem tubos com mais de 600mm.

No caso do SM-39 não sei se está apto para ataques a alvos terrestres. Também tem o fato do alcance q seria muito curto. Creio q 300km seria o mínimo satisfatório e o permitido por tratados coleirísticos assinados pelo Brasil ...

Quiçá um dia veremos SNs-BR com o bucho cheio de "Tupãs-M"... Mas creio q só na segunda geração de SNs tupiniquins...

[Viktor Reznov]

Começou o jogo mais forte e covarde contra os signatários do acordo com o Irã.Esta demonstração desnecessária, cruel e vergonhosa de afundar um barco Turco com ajuda humanitária não tem cabimento.
Uma vistoria ainda no mar já seria por si só suficiente, mas não a opção foi de abrir fogo contra um barco civil desarmado, matando 10 pessoas e ferindo 30.

Afundaram o um barco? Abriram fogo contra um barco? OLHA A MENTIRA AÍ GENTE!!!!!

Durante muito tempo o mundo fechou os olhos para as atitudes da Alemanha nazista e deu no que deu.
Já passou da hora do mundo por Israel no seu devido lugar, antes que seja tarde demais.
Eles querem fazer com os árabes o que os nazistas fizeram com eles, o ódio e o desprezo é o mesmo.

Curiosamente os arábes querem fazer com Israel a mesma coisa que o nazistas fizeram com os judeus.

[Francoorp]

Começou o jogo mais forte e covarde contra os signatários do acordo com o Irã.Esta demonstração desnecessária, cruel e vergonhosa de afundar um barco Turco com ajuda humanitária não tem cabimento.
Uma vistoria ainda no mar já seria por si só suficiente, mas não a opção foi de abrir fogo contra um barco civil desarmado, matando 10 pessoas e ferindo 30.

Afundaram o um barco? Abriram fogo contra um barco? OLHA A MENTIRA AÍ GENTE!!!!!

Durante muito tempo o mundo fechou os olhos para as atitudes da Alemanha nazista e deu no que deu.
Já passou da hora do mundo por Israel no seu devido lugar, antes que seja tarde demais.
Eles querem fazer com os árabes o que os nazistas fizeram com eles, o ódio e o desprezo é o mesmo.

Curiosamente os arábes querem fazer com Israel a mesma coisa que o nazistas fizeram com os judeus.

Não afundaram mas atacaram e assassinaram dentro de um barco... humanitário ainda por cima !!

Mas quanto à outra afirmação, vendo os campos prófugos palestinos que se tornaram como os guetos de Varsóvia, creio que seja o contrário de sua afirmação, que seja Israel querendo fazer o mesmo com os Palestinos do que fizeram os Nazistas contra os judeus !!