PAK FA - VOOU!!!

[Bourne]

Falando assim vai acabar quebrando a aliança rosa choque-vermelha (franco-russa em outras palavras) a favor do Rafale. Prevejo que logo voltaremos aos bons tempos onde as coisas eram melhor definidas.

[Carlos Mathias]

Na falta da melhor opção, fica-se com a menos ruim.

[Mapinguari]

Bem..., novamente não foi em 2009..., mas de 2010 não passa!!

Pois é... Lembrem-se que, em 2012, o mundo acaba...
Aí, nem PAK-FA, nem Gripen NG, nem nada para a FAB...

[Carlos Lima]

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/ ... ht%20Tests

Sukhoi Fighter Starting Flight Tests
Dec 28, 2009
By Alexi Komarov

The prototype of Sukhoi’s fifth-generation fighter, known as PAK-FA or T-50, has started taxi trials with an aim to make first flight early in January, industry sources say.

First taxi trials were successfully performed at Sukhoi’s Komsomol-on-Amur KnAAPO manufacturing facility, where prototypes are being built. The PAK-FA development is still classified, so images of the stealthy fighter are expected to appear only after the first flight.

Earlier this month deputy prime-minister Sergei Ivanov also confirmed to media that flight trials of the T-50 were expected to be underway by the beginning of January.

Est'a chegando a hora

Logo logo as fotos aparecem

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[P44]

India, Russia close to PACT on next generation fighter
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi January 05, 2010, 0:38 IST


Late last year, a defence ministry delegation to Sukhoi’s flagship aircraft facility in Siberia became the first Indians to set eyes upon the next-generation fighter that is slated to form the backbone of the future Indian Air Force (IAF). In that first meeting, carefully choreographed by Sukhoi, the new fighter, standing on the tarmac waved a welcome to the Indians, moving all its control fins simultaneously.
The effect, recounts one member of that delegation, was electric. The senior IAF officer there walked silently up to the aircraft and touched it almost incredulously. This was the Sukhoi T-50, the first technology demonstrator of what India terms the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA). Senior defence ministry sources tell Business Standard that — after five years of haggling over the FGFA’s form, capabilities and work-share — a detailed contract on joint development is just around the corner.
The contract, which Bangalore-based Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) will sign with Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), will commit to building 250 fighters for the IAF and an equal number for Russia. The option for further orders will be kept open. HAL and UAC will be equal partners in a joint venture company, much like the Brahmos JV, that will develop and manufacture the FGFA.
The cost of developing the FGFA, which would be shared between both countries, will be $8-10 billion (Rs 37,000-45,000 crore). Over and above that, say IAF and defence ministry sources, each FGFA will cost Rs 400-500 crore.
Sukhoi’s FGFA prototype, which is expected to make its first flight within weeks, is a true stealth aircraft, almost invisible to enemy radar. According to a defence ministry official, “It is an amazing looking aircraft. It has a Radar Cross Section (RCS) of just 0.5 square metre as compared to the Su-30MKI’s RCS of about 20 square metres.”
[That means that while a Su-30MKI would be as visible to enemy radar as a metal object 5 metres X 4 metres in dimension, the FGFA’s radar signature would be just 1/40th of that.]
A key strength of the 30-35 tonne FGFA would be data fusion; the myriad inputs from the fighter’s infrared, radar, and visual sensors would be electronically combined and fed to the pilots in easy-to-read form.
The FGFA partnership was conceived a decade ago, in 2000, when Sukhoi’s celebrated chief, Mikhail Pogosyan, invited a visiting Indian Air Force officer out to dinner in Moscow. Boris Yeltsin’s disastrous presidency had just ended, and Russia’s near bankruptcy was reflected in the run-down condition of a once-famous restaurant. But, as the IAF officer recounts, the vodka was flowing and Pogosyan was in his element, a string of jokes translated by a female interpreter.
Late that evening Pogosyan turned serious, switching the conversation to a secret project that, officially, did not even exist. Sukhoi, he confided to the IAF officer, had completed the design of a fifth generation fighter, as advanced as America’s F-22 Raptor, which is still the world’s foremost fighter. Russia’s economy was in tatters, but Sukhoi would develop its new, high-tech fighter if India partnered Russia, sharing the costs of developing the fighter at Sukhoi’s plant, Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Production Organisation (KnAAPO).
Reaching out to India was logical for Russia. During the 1990s — when thousands of Russian military design bureaus starved for funds, and a bankrupt Moscow cancelled 1,149 R&D projects — India’s defence purchases had kept Russia’s defence industry alive, bankrolling the development of the Sukhoi-30 fighter; the Talwar-class stealth frigates; the Uran and Klub ship-borne missiles; and the MiG-21 upgrade.
But co-developing a fifth generation fighter is a different ball game, financially and technologically, and India’s MoD hesitated to sign up. Meanwhile enriched by hydrocarbon revenues, Moscow gave Sukhoi the green light to develop the FGFA, which Russia terms the PAK-FA, the acronym for Perspektivnyi Aviatsionnyi Kompleks Frontovoi Aviatsy (literally Prospective Aircraft Complex of Frontline Aviation).
Today, Russia is five years into the development of the FGFA. In November 2007, India and Russia signed an Inter-Governmental Agreement on co-developing the fighter, but it has taken two more years to agree upon common specifications, work shares in development, and in resolving issues like Intellectual Property Rights (IPR).
The prototype that Sukhoi has built is tailored to Russian Air Force requirements. But the IAF has different specifications and the JV will cater for both air forces, producing two different, but closely related, aircraft. For example, Russia wants a single-seat fighter; the IAF, happy with the Su-30MKI, insists upon a twin-seat fighter with one pilot flying and the other handling the sensors, networks and weaponry.
Negotiations have resolved even this fundamental conflict. India has agreed to buy a mix of about 50 single-seat and 200 twin-seat aircraft. Russia, in turn, will consider buying more twin-seat aircraft to use as trainers. But even as both countries narrow their differences, fresh challenges lie ahead: preparing India’s nascent aerospace industry for the high-tech job of developing and manufacturing a fifth-generation fighter.
(This is the first of a two-part series on the IAF’s fifth-generation fighter)
(Part II: FGFA negotiating hardball: Russia says India brings little to the table)

http://wap.business-standard.com/storyp ... ono=381718

[P44]

do mp.net & paralay

[Skyway]

do mp.net & paralay

Rússia comprou F-22?



Zuando.

[Bolovo]

Cara, uma coisa, sem zuar, nem nada disso, mas o caça que eu mais vi desenho 3D até hoje é o tal do PAK...

[P44]

o único que ainda se calhar tem tanto desenho como o Pak é o Gripen...

[Mapinguari]

o único que ainda se calhar tem tanto desenho como o Pak é o Gripen...

A diferença é que, do Gripen, é sempre a mesma configuração, só mudam os esquemas de pintura e as marcas nacionais.
Do PAK-FA, já vi umas dez configurações e desenhos diferentes. Nenhuma deve se parecer com o caça real. Isto é, deve lembrar o F-22 ou o F-35, pois afinal de contas, se pretende ser stealth, os projetistas devem ter usado soluções similares.

[Bolovo]

E outra que do PAK nenhuma é oficial, algumas são bem suspeitas, mas na maioria é especulação...

[Carlos Lima]

Então seria mais ou menos assim:

Um do caça mais especulado e outro do caça mais consistente em configuração porém irreal...



É igual revista em quadrinhos aonde o PAK é a Marvel que contrata desenhistas diferentes ao longo dos anos para desenhar os mesmos heróis e o NG é a Turma da Mônica com a mesma cara quase sempre

Tudo quadrinho no fim das contas

Só rindo
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[P44]

dizem ( ) que vai ser parecido com o F-22

[prp]

Dizem que não divulgam as fotos porque ele tem o ultra secreto ventiladorzinho de cabine do MI35.

[Mapinguari]

Dizem que não divulgam as fotos porque ele tem o ultra secreto ventiladorzinho de cabine do MI35.

E não esqueça do fundo de painel azul bebê!